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    What's funny is that Simmon's disgruntled exit (at feeling he deserved a 50 million dollar contract) is being discussed as a mistake on PATFO's part WHEN HE LITERALLY COULDN'T OUT-PERFORM A FREAKING 39-YEAR OLD. Not consistently, not convincingly or efficiently enough to make an outright claim to that end. Simmons did have his moments, but they were far and few between. Could consistent minutes have changed that pattern? Who knows.

    I would've hoped we could have retained Simmon's services at 20 million/3 years, but he felt he had to move on to leave Pop's shadow and his tight leash. His loss.
    I suspect that Simmons is quite ball dominant. He wasn't playing well off the ball. He's a poor shooter which doesn't help him off the ball and played half a season with two bigs that camped in the paint which I think cramped his style and forced him to take a lot more mid range jumpshots than the season prior when he played with DWEst Diaw and Kyle, all who could shoot and find him cutting, or set screens to free him. This season he got his shots differently and it affected his efficiency. If he ever becomes a more reliable shooter we probably will hear about him bc the games his jumpshot was ON you noticed him and he was a difference maker. It just didn't happen enough bc he's not that great of a shooter. So the rest of his development will come to pass in Orlando. Not much that we can argue about him right now, he's gone.

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    I suspect that Simmons is quite ball dominant. He wasn't playing well off the ball. He's a poor shooter which doesn't help him off the ball and played half a season with two bigs that camped in the paint which I think cramped his style and forced him to take a lot more mid range jumpshots than the season prior when he played with DWEst Diaw and Kyle, all who could shoot and find him cutting, or set screens to free him. This season he got his shots differently and it affected his efficiency. If he ever becomes a more reliable shooter we probably will hear about him bc the games his jumpshot was ON you noticed him and he was a difference maker. It just didn't happen enough bc he's not that great of a shooter. So the rest of his development will come to pass in Orlando. Not much that we can argue about him right now, he's gone.
    He's a big fat nothing. Never was anything more than that, except for highlight stuff and his great game every 20 games.
    No jumper, you just prayed, like he did when he let it fly.
    They went in, YAY!!! he's awesome and so athletic!
    No? And his TO's? Well, at least Pop liked his Manu-like fearlessness... Too bad he didn't have Manu-like playing ability at that age.

    This guy is a big nothing that too many panties are getting squeezed over. #TRUST

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    He's a big fat nothing. Never was anything more than that, except for highlight stuff and his great game every 20 games.
    No jumper, you just prayed, like he did when he let it fly.
    They went in, YAY!!! he's awesome and so athletic!
    No? And his TO's? Well, at least Pop liked his Manu-like fearlessness... Too bad he didn't have Manu-like playing ability at that age.

    This guy is a big nothing that too many panties are getting squeezed over. #TRUST
    no argument. I do wish him the best though.
    I was accused of being a hater at the slightest criticism of him, which isn't true, go figure. I never really hated Jsimms. He contributed some things that were helpful. I wanted him back for a moderate contract, but I honestly thought deep down that he'd be gone this season bc some other team would overpay. And he's just older, he has a sense of desperation that wasn't going to wait for Pop. It was just a feeling tbh... that ended up being the case, go figure.

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    There's always another spot available for a white on Poop's roster tbh. He'll cut Kawhi if he has to.

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    no argument. I do wish him the best though.
    I was accused of being a hater at the slightest criticism of him, which isn't true, go figure. I never really hated Jsimms. He contributed some things that were helpful. I wanted him back for a moderate contract, but I honestly thought deep down that he'd be gone this season bc some other team would overpay. And he's just older, he has a sense of desperation that wasn't going to wait for Pop. It was just a feeling tbh... that ended up being the case, go figure.
    Peeps who argue for him are dumb.
    And their reasons are stupid.

    He was the best player on the team when Kawhi and Parker were down? No . The whole team was in disarray and Simmons tried to use his alpha personality to take over.
    Yay. It was nothing. He put up garbage . Garbage.

    Who cares, other than fools who want to advance their ?
    He was and will never be a consideration to move needles to get to the Finish Line. Hence his garbage contract on a garbage team.

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    Isn't the roster already full at 15 players?

    Parker/Mills/Murray/White
    Green/Manu/Paul/Forbes
    Leonard/Anderson
    Gay/Bertans
    Aldridge/Pau/Lauvergne

    Unless Paul is guaranteed until he's not and Forbes isn't signed.

    I suspect Murray is pretty much done with the team.
    I think Pop thinks that for some reason we can play 8 guards on the court at the same time. I don't even think he realizes that there is a frontcourt.

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    I think Pop thinks that for some reason we can play 8 guards on the court at the same time. I don't even think he realizes that there is a frontcourt.
    Perhaps the addition of White and Paul indicates that PATFO knew they screwed up badly last year by picking the wrong point guard in the draft.

    On the bright side, a team does not need a traditional point guard to be successful. The team below did okay without such a point guard:


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    Perhaps the addition of White and Paul indicates that PATFO knew they screwed up badly last year by picking the wrong point guard in the draft.

    On the bright side, a team does not need a traditional point guard to be successful. The team below did okay without such a point guard:

    and with rodman playing at center

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    well i hope so...

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    Perhaps the addition of White and Paul indicates that PATFO knew they screwed up badly last year by picking the wrong point guard in the draft.

    On the bright side, a team does not need a traditional point guard to be successful. The team below did okay without such a point guard:

    This team against GS, whats the score? Hmm

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    This is what Manu thinks about his haters on Spurstalk

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    I like fighters/winners so I like Manu. I despise lazy players like Kyle Anderson. I just can't understand how they can be like that earning that much money.

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    I like fighters/winners so I like Manu. I despise lazy players like Kyle Anderson. I just can't understand how they can be like that earning that much money.
    Psshh, hindsight is always 20/20. Id like to know how you got Manus and Kyles workout routine, to prove this supposed laziness, and wonder if you could share it with us?

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    I like fighters/winners so I like Manu. I despise lazy players like Kyle Anderson. I just can't understand how they can be like that earning that much money.
    Don't think Kyle is lazy. He's just not very talented and moves like he wears cement shoes.

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    Psshh, hindsight is always 20/20. Id like to know how you got Manus and Kyles workout routine, to prove this supposed laziness, and wonder if you could share it with us?
    I don't care so much about their workout routine but I do care about how they play basketball when it actually counts, being paid a lot of money.

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    Don't think Kyle is lazy. He's just not very talented and moves like he wears cement shoes.
    He is lazy n the same way Teddy Blair was lazy. Agreed that he is not very talented (using nba standards of course).

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    Psshh, hindsight is always 20/20. Id like to know how you got Manus and Kyles workout routine, to prove this supposed laziness, and wonder if you could share it with us?
    Kyle Anderson's body, snail speed, never evolving "shot", and prime Patrick Ewing sweating after 1 minute of playing might have something to do with what he's saying.

    I disagree about Manure though. That guy plays loser ball aka Kobe ball. s the team over more than they help, but his fluffers will only remember the good times

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    Did these contracts get torn up before they were announced (the numbers at least) because of the Kyrie trade demand?

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