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    Great days for the Dubs. Their only two true rials each have had major players demand a trade (LMA, Kyrie respectively) Both have a good chance of being weaker next year.
    Great point and the sad truth

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    I am pessimistic about this now. Spurs don't do bold. The boldest move was shipping an injury prone Tiago to sign Aldridge and letting some roleplayers who were FA go... wasn't even that bold. An no brainer bc Tiagos career was on the downswing and he was almost never healthy. The season after they traded a Diaw that was getting benched in the playoffs to sign Gasol. It wasn't that difficult a choice either. Diaw was also on the downturn. You get benched in the playoffs bc a 22 year old Slowmo is a better option than you, you better be packing your bags. This season they chose to sign Patty to a generous contract and stood pat at the guards spots loading up on young guards to see if they find a keeper. The situation is not the same as the prior two seasons. They like what they have. Veering away from that initial plan is the bold move. They won't do it.
    It's clearly a bold move, but also the spurs have stood at this same spot in other moments and they pushed for it.
    They signed Aldridge, as a patty of a plan of course, but also because they had the opportunity.
    Then the plan was set, still when they knew they had a chance at Durant, they went for it, and in the end Durant choose elsewhere.
    I am not so sure how much they pursued Paul, but Paul, because of his age and cost, was much more of a high risk move than Aldridge, Durant or now Irving.

    On the other hand Danny Green has been on the block, and no one on the organization spoke against it, making it different to the Aldridge situation.

    Danny, as a LeBron friend, could be a building block for Cleveland to start showing he can make a banana boat team there, surrounded by friends, and still remain compe ive.

    There are, like always, a lot of things against the Spurs. The fact that don't do bold i don't buy it, if Irving is moved, and he is not moved here, won't be because we don't do bold, but more likely because others outbided us.

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    There are, like always, a lot of things against the Spurs. The fact that don't do bold i don't buy it, if Irving is moved, and he is not moved here, won't be because we don't do bold, but more likely because others outbided us.
    If this is how is plays out, then that is OK with me, at least they tried. I just hope they are trying to make it happen and not sitting around saying some silly like "we like what we have."

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    I thought Tyson Chandler based on the fact he's been offered. Alex Len is another possibility.
    Tyson Chandler is not on a good contract, and adding him and Kyrie would put us over the cap. Len, maybe. Personally, I would just let GasolLove platoon C.

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    Yeah, because having LMA on the team has been so hampering to the Spurs...

    No, paying Irving so much along with Kawhi isn't some obvious point. Do you actually think Kyrie, Kawhi and min deals is likely to do better than SA has recently? I can't think of any way to argue that. Only way it makes is if the Spurs use cap space on a guy like Cousins, but then that's cap . Depending on the price, go for it and hope it works out. But either they need to keep a strong roster this year or keep future prospects. They can't lose both.

    36mil committed to Kyrie and Kawhi is 100% fine. They're both on pre e maxes so they combine to be 1 Conley.

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    He posted this last summer winning the Chip..



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    Tyson Chandler is not on a good contract, and adding him and Kyrie would put us over the cap. Len, maybe. Personally, I would just let GasolLove platoon C.
    You have to get something bad in return to get a top 15 player.

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    He posted this last summer winning the Chip..




    Wouldn't shock me if Kirby is in his ear, telling him to do what he did to Shaq. Kind of concerning though, since he is not better than Kawhi and would never receive more credit than Kawhi.

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    No matter what happens...this thread is better than the Finals.

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    Tyson Chandler is not on a good contract, and adding him and Kyrie would put us over the cap. Len, maybe. Personally, I would just let GasolLove platoon C.
    Love is a lot more expensive than Chandler and what he offers you don't need (shooting, though I wouldn't argue about the rebounding. I think he's a much better passer than LMA, he just didn't have a chance to do much in that area with Lebron, but I could be mistaken). He was getting benched in 4th Q for a good part of 2 seasons in Cleveland bc of defensive issues. He actually is probably the achilles heel in Cleveland. I don't want him, specially not next to Gasol who is another turnstile. If we want turnstiles who can shoot we keep Bertans (being sarcastic here, the guy is young and hopefully he improves...)

    Presumably you could flip him, but why is Cleveland having so much trouble trying to flip him as well? I wouldn't trade LMA for Love straight up tbh. Only for Kyrie bc Spurs need scoring from one of their guards. You then flip one of Spurs guards for some center.

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    Yep.

    Ship Kyrie out and get back Melo LOL!!!!

    Cleveland won't even make it out of the East next year..

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    You have to get something bad in return to get a top 15 player.
    Probably true. So have you checked out a 3-team trade with Cavs/Spurs/Suns?

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    Love is a lot more expensive than Chandler and what he offers you don't need (shooting, though I wouldn't argue about the rebounding. I think he's a much better passer than LMA, he just didn't have a chance to do much in that area with Lebron, but I could be mistaken). He was getting benched in 4th Q for a good part of 2 seasons in Cleveland bc of defensive issues. He actually is probably the achilles heel in Cleveland. I don't want him, specially not next to Gasol who is another turnstile. If we want turnstiles who can shoot we keep Bertans (being sarcastic here, the guy is young and hopefully he improves...)

    Presumably you could flip him, but why is Cleveland having so much trouble trying to flip him as well? I wouldn't trade LMA for Love straight up tbh. Only for Kyrie bc Spurs need scoring from one of their guards. You then flip one of Spurs guards for some center.
    Sounds pretty good in theory. But then the Spurs are trying to swap a G in a buyer's market.

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    http://terezowens.com/theres-another...-of-cleveland/

    “Word is Kyrie wants a trade because LeBron banged his girl, it’s all hush hush right now, but Kryie is over LeBron, and really wants nothing to do with him at this point” says our source.

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    Ship Kyrie out and get back Melo LOL!!!!

    Cleveland won't even make it out of the East next year..
    Cleveland is winning the East next year with or without Kyrie, tbh.

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    Cleveland is winning the East next year with or without Kyrie, tbh.
    No way.. Boston is better and Lebron is leaving. The team will quit.

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    No way.. Boston is better and Lebron is leaving. The team will quit.
    Disagree. Any team with Lebron will (and should be) favored over Boston next year. Lebron owns the Celtics.

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    He posted this last summer winning the Chip..


    I read somewhere even after the championship he was already considering asking for a trade. He got robbed of the opportunity to have a team around him bc while he was still a very young guard (23 years old? basically) Lebron came down on Cleveland and stole his thunder. And this wasn't like Durant and Westbrook in OKC or some other foward/PG combo in the past (and there was even some questioning of Westbrook and for a long time he was considered second tier to Durant)... he was basically viewed as a kid and complementary piece to Lebron. It was all Lebron this, Lebron that, etc. He practically controlled team building originally, and it's all Lebron's crew. It seems that he doesn't feel part of some legendary duo or trio of players. Instead he's just a piece and he's way too young and still on the upswing to just be a piece. He does have an ego, but also is hungry. Love took a hit to his ego as well, but he left the Timberwolves and asked to be traded voluntarily and is older and might just be more self-aware.

    I don't know ultimately if Pop would be ok with him wanting the limelight, but Pop has managed egos just fine... and he's won championships with a PG who was a scoring option before a distributor.

    In PATFO we trust. It's not an easy choice. What sways me ultimately is that Kyrie wants to be in SA whereas LMA wants the out.

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    Sounds pretty good in theory. But then the Spurs are trying to swap a G in a buyer's market.
    That is why I suggested Chandler. A sign and trade for JSimms was considered by the Suns (I bet they would have preferred him over Patty though). Len I think is a RFA that is languishing in the market too. The market for centers is actually not what it used to be. Spurs will need to offload one of their guards for sure though.

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    Real talk, Kyrie Irving sounds like a cancerous piece of

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    Real talk, Kyrie Irving sounds like a cancerous piece of
    Maybe he knows LeBron is gonna bolt and he doesn't want to get stuck in Cleveland. Maybe he also knows LeBron is about to decline hard and wants out again before he's stuck in Cleveland.

    Right now he's just a pawn in Lebron's world.

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    These kids man... so selfish, whatever happened to "Ain't no fun"?

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