Woj: Pau Gasol Agrees to 3-yr Deal w/ Spurs

[alfahdlan]

Are we seeing a discount when we sign Mark Gasol next year?

[ElNono]

If it's for the minimum, why not?

[SpursforSix]

Kyrie: "uh...about my preferences..."

[SpursforSix]

sorry Claw...I don't know where your money went

[024]

Ok I resisted criticizing PATFO too much this offseason. Patty was an overpay of 3-4 million/yr, that I could live with. Let Simmons and Dedmon walk? Sure, I like the idea of preserving 2018 cap space.

Have Pau opt out of a 16 million contract to just give him another 16 million next year, eating up cap space?!?!? Wtf?? When someone opts out of a contract for a longer term deal, youre supposed to pay him less, not more. The Spurs just replaced one bad contract coming off the books (parker's) with another.

All the Spurs had to do was wait for Gasol's contract to expire and they could have signed him for cheap next year if they wanted to keep him. One more year of playing time and gasol's value will continue plummeting. Not only is his speed and defense useless in today's NBA but he's also old as too. What the .

PATFO dug themselves into a big hole by drafting poorly ever since Leonard/CJ. Now they are trying to plug holes by overpaying 37 year olds?? This is beyond stupid and I have no idea what they are doing anymore.

And why the is spurstalk still on the malicious website list? Had to type this entire rant on my phone. Did the owners sell this site and moved the servers to eastern europe??

[Hoops Czar]

Last summer when Conley got his contract, he joined Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant as the only players in NBA history to make more than $30 million a year..

It's just something that'll likely continue to happen. Doesn't mean this person was better or did more than some of these GOAT's, just more money to give these days

You need to be a brain dead GM to have a guy opt out his 1 year/$16M contract only to resign for three more years at the exact same price he opted out of. RC completely sabotaged the Spurs for the next three years.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

To make this more interesting:

If I'm reading the 'apron' rules around the lux tax threshold correctly, then theoretically this could be done as part of a deal to get us Kyrie. If my math's right, a package of Gasol + Green + Murray + Anderson for Kyrie would satisfy the requirements for getting Cleveland below the apron (just barely).

[SpursforSix]

You need to be a brain dead GM to have a guy opt out his 1 year/$16M contract only to resign for three more years at the exact same price he opted out of. RC completely sabotaged the Spurs for the next three years.

It'll be a lot longer than three years that this s the Spurs.

[Hoops Czar]

To make this more interesting:

If I'm reading the 'apron' rules around the lux tax threshold correctly, then theoretically this could be done as part of a deal to get us Kyrie. If my math's right, a package of Gasol + Green + Murray + Anderson for Kyrie would satisfy the requirements for getting Cleveland below the apron (just barely).

You'd have to ask yourself why the Cleveland would even consider that trade? Spurstalk posts are getting more ridiculous by the second. I've never seen anything quite like it.

[pad300]

I am not sure that the Pau Gasol reported contract can be right. The max we could pay him was a 20% raise over last years 15.5 Million (non bird FA rights). That's $18.6 million. He's in the over 38 rule with a 3 yr contract, which pushes the salary for the years after 38 forward in the contract for cap space purposes.
The over 38 rule:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q56

But the resulting contract still has to fit in the space we have available - $18.6 Million. At $16M starting, any portion of it pushed forward pushes outside what the Spurs can offer... It's the same ruling that bit Nene. Something is off here.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You'd have to ask yourself why the Cleveland would even consider that trade? Spurstalk posts are getting more ridiculous by the second. I've never seen anything quite like it.

I agree it's ridiculous, just trying to make the math work. Ignoring basketball sense.

[spurs1990]

Firstly, Gasol has skyrocketed to my most hated Spurs player since I've been a fan.

I hate his play, his contract, and the fact that they brought him in after he turned them down four years ago to chase money in Chicago.

Now, since we have this over-the-hill eye sore for at least two years, I'm hoping the bulk of the contract is for this upcoming year, very little for year two, and the remaining in that 3rd non-guaranteed year.

So something like this:

$20m 2017-2018
$10m 2018-2019
$18m 2019-2020

The goal being to have a s-ton of cap room summer of 2018 to lure James and/or another worthy top-shelf player.

So just to recap - F you Pau Gasol, and F every Spurs management figure who brought this guy in at age 37 last year.

[apalisoc_9]

The lation deal...RC drunkford...

[vander]

I feel a little bit sick. this is definitely the worst offseason I can remember and there is no hope that the Spurs will contend for a le in the next 3 years

I won't blame Kawhi for leaving

[pad300]

To make this more interesting:

If I'm reading the 'apron' rules around the lux tax threshold correctly, then theoretically this could be done as part of a deal to get us Kyrie. If my math's right, a package of Gasol + Green + Murray + Anderson for Kyrie would satisfy the requirements for getting Cleveland below the apron (just barely).

How does this get Cle below the apron? Kyrie is on $18.8 Million this year, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland_cavaliers/ You could trade this Pau contract for him straight up. Adding ~13.5 Million in salary (Green, Murray & Anderson) does what for them? , if I'm reading the over 38 rule right, this 3/$48M contract is worth something like 24 million in capspace in year 1, because the 3ed year gets spread over the first 2... , the spurs could take back something like $30M for Pau's contract ???

[Hoops Czar]

How does this get Cle below the apron? Kyrie is on $18.8 Million this year, http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland_cavaliers/ You could trade this Pau contract for him straight up. Adding ~13.5 Million in salary (Green, Murray & Anderson) does what for them? , if I'm reading the over 38 rule right, this 3/$48M contract is worth something like 24 million in capspace in year 1, because the 3ed year gets spread over the first 2... , the spurs could take back something like $30M for Pau's contract ???

Doesn't the over 38 rule only apply to the MLE? I Don't think it has anything to do with paying a player using cap space.

[apalisoc_9]

Doesn't the over 38 rule only apply to the MLE? I Don't think it has anything to do with paying a player using cap space.

How much fo you think the other latino gets?

This place would explode of he gets anything over 6.

[Chinook]

So what's the cap space looking like next year Chinook

I wanna say not horrible, but Gasol's deal is insane.

[Chinook]

I am not sure that the Pau Gasol reported contract can be right. The max we could pay him was a 20% raise over last years 15.5 Million (non bird FA rights). That's $18.6 million. He's in the over 38 rule with a 3 yr contract, which pushes the salary for the years after 38 forward in the contract for cap space purposes.
The over 38 rule:
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q56

But the resulting contract still has to fit in the space we have available - $18.6 Million. At $16M starting, any portion of it pushed forward pushes outside what the Spurs can offer... It's the same ruling that bit Nene. Something is off here.

You linked to a section saying the deal has to be for four or five years. Gasol's deal doesn't apply.

[BillMc]

I'm guessing he did the team a favor and opted out so they could land a big FA (probably Chris Paul). When that didn't happen (partially because of the LMA thing, mostly because of other factors) there was no reason for Pau to take the cut, and the Spurs gave him his money.

Doing right by their players counts for something too. Not smart necessarily, but admirable.

[MannyIsGod]

What in the actual . Why? This contract makes zero sense and is ing outrageous.

[TheGreatYacht]

Firstly, Gasol has skyrocketed to my most hated Spurs player since I've been a fan.

I hate his play, his contract, and the fact that they brought him in after he turned them down four years ago to chase money in Chicago.

Now, since we have this over-the-hill eye sore for at least two years, I'm hoping the bulk of the contract is for this upcoming year, very little for year two, and the remaining in that 3rd non-guaranteed year.

So something like this:

$20m 2017-2018
$10m 2018-2019
$18m 2019-2020

The goal being to have a s-ton of cap room summer of 2018 to lure James and/or another worthy top-shelf player.

So just to recap - F you Pau Gasol, and F every Spurs management figure who brought this guy in at age 37 last year.

It's not Gasol you should hate....

It's the drunk running this ship

[MannyIsGod]

I would have been a bit annoyed at anything above 30 mil but 48 ing million makes absolutely zero sense.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm guessing he did the team a favor and opted out so they could land a big FA (probably Chris Paul). When that didn't happen (partially because of the LMA thing, mostly because of other factors) there was no reason for Pau to take the cut, and the Spurs gave him his money.

Doing right by their players counts for something too. Not smart necessarily, but admirable.

There's next summer's salary cap flexibility as a reason why. And with this sorry contract, he'll still be around.

[baseline bum]

Holy someone get Buford into AA asap