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PATFO failed him
http://www.nba.com/history/all-nba-teams/
The only player, other than Larry Bird, to do it more than once!
Larry Bird did it twice, but played in an era without a third team all-NBA award, his teammates would have almost certainly made third team.
Seriously, it annoys me to see LeBron ranked ahead of Duncan by every media, to see Tim's career average being a run-of-the-mill 19 and 11 because he does so many things that don't show up on stats (set picks, team defense), to see him portrayed as a system player when he had the highest PER in playoff history in 03 and won so many les without another all-NBA player.
It unfortunately also part of the reason why Spurs never repeated, just not enough raw talents compared to teams that do.
Last edited by hitmantb; 07-24-2017 at 09:30 PM.
PATFO failed him
Its all pop and RC
Thank god Sam Presti gave us Parker before he left.
Duncan would've played his career with a bunch of Terry Porters, Elsons, Mohammeds, Nesterovics, Alex Garcias, Udokas, Shane Heals, and Jason Harts
Yes they did in a lot of ways.
And Lebron has team mates running for the hills. Jordan managed to keep Pippen happy enough to stay and win 6 chips. After 3 straight finals and 1 chip, Kyrie apparently hates him and wants the away from him right now..
Parker and Ginobili were underrated until a bit later.
Duncan is easily better than Lebron...EASILY! Duncan won 5 in the era of Kobe, Shaq and Jackson. Thats why he can be considered great without lessening what Manu and Parker did. Without the Lakers wed be gunning for Russells record. Lebron had no compe ion like that except us and....well...he aint to us.
Manu was really good and appreciated fully by 2005. He had a great playoffs and finals. Parker was actually bad in 2003 and 2005 finals. Made up for it in 2007.
Lebron is more skilled and has really no equal in versatility. But there is too much bull around Lebron centered around his EGO. I think his mates gets sick of the Lebron James show/circus. When they win he gets all the credit anyway. People don't want to play with him as much as years ago.. I think Kyrie does not want to be held hostage by Lebron bailing again at end of the season..
1: Manu and TP have always been underrated but especially in their primes
2: If Da Admiral had TD's supporting cast for most of his career, he'd have 5 Championships too
Jordan didn't keep Pippen happy. Pippen was locked in a bull contract and they wouldn't trade him haha
Hes versatile in everything but his job which as a SF is to shoot and post up, not be Magic Johnson. Except in crunch time, Magics going to take the shot not pass it to an open 3 point shot giving the pressure to the other guy masked as the "right basketball play" so LJ can say hes not at fault. Other than that I agree with your post, hes got a manipulative side, trying to control things.
Last edited by skulls138; 07-25-2017 at 12:50 AM.
Go back and watch 2007 Manu and TP, it's crazy how good they were and really never considered stars because they didn't act like nba stars do.
So Durant thinks he is mr. bigshot with that ring now, but Tim Duncan did it the hard way sure he had some talent but nothing even close to what the Warriors or LeBron has had. Duncan, Manu, Parker the best big 3 ever and Pop is one of the greatest coaches ever but still Duncan did it the hard way.
Duncan is a bad mofo, and a real NBA champion!!!
Larry Bird was excited to play with Len Bias. He said it was the first time he was ever going to play with a great athlete.
I got to meat Devin Brown and Jason Hart in person at the age of 10. Pretty cool dudes
Ppl who think LeBron is better than Duncan shouldn't be commenting on basketball, tbh...
Another way of looking at this-
How many teams have won a NBA championship without more than one lottery pick in their prime. That is- going back in even into the 80s how many le teams have not had multiple lottery picks under the age of say 34?
Even Birds team had multiple top 10 picks (Parish, McHale).
That's been my opinion all along. Tim is in my top 5 NBA players of all time. Lebron, I'd put 6-10 range, or if he is in the top 5, he's behind wherever TD is.
I wouldnt say LJ had great help, I would say he didnt have to compete against anybody that difficult, especially in his conference. He had Wade, whose game i like way more BTW, but he wasnt near his prime. Ill also say as good as he was as a passer, he didnt make his teammates better because he was too passive when they needed him too score. It doesnt instill confidence.
It ain't easy to build a team when you're picking in the high 20s every year, with the one exception being James Anderson who got hurt before we could see what he was. Most of the other recent le teams got their with signing a HOF FA (early 2000s Lakers and the Heatles), lots of early round draft picks (Warriors), both of those (Cavs). When you have a player of Duncan's caliber, it's impossible to tank.
Drafting isn't the only way to acquire talent. I'm specifically criticizing Buford for being the worst deal closer of all time. All his big time free agents have been busts and then to make it worse the idiot gives them huge extensions
The weak Eastern Conference has inflated Lebron's playoff success, strong West has contracted Duncan!
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268535
Wasn't even sure if Bird was All-NBA or not in 81 when they won. He was All-NBA 1st team that year. He was All-NBA 1st team his rookie year too.
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