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Like the ing Vichy French. Wonder if they're on the payroll a la RG/DNC
Think about these two possibilities with Leonard.
1. He is dying to win an MVP next year and is on board with carrying all this ty dead weight on his back. He's ok with all this and doing more by himself, which seems like it after looking at this roster.
2. He is too quiet and won't stand up, even if he feels these are wrong moves, and raise concerns with Pop and RC and lets them do whatever they want, which obviously is not trying to catch Golden State.
These moves make zero sense and it feels at times like they're conceding this run by the Warriors for more than just next year. Maybe 2 or 3 years the Spurs are giving up on.
I'm sure someone will come along here in a few moments and say trust them because every move they make is right and they're never wrong.
Like the ing Vichy French. Wonder if they're on the payroll a la RG/DNC
God 1/6th of the cap on a long deal for someone they can't play in today's NBA. And I thought the Bonner signings were bad.
^^ but but but it's not terrible because we can always waive Pau
This is terrible deal. There was no need to lock him for 2 years, and there was no need to lock him for 16 mil at anytime during that deal. What the Spurs are doing
38+ for Pau, Patty, and Gay. That's a max slot.
The F in PATFO should stand for fraudulent
What max free agent wants to play for the Spurs?
Potentially several ask me again once 2018 free agency starts.
Would you rather have Patty/Pau/Gay or a shot at PG or Demarcus. Your question makes me think the former and not the latter.
This contract is insane. I can understand them having to do him a favour for him opting out, but the most I would have given him is 24 million for 2 years guaranteed, and maybe a 3rd year partially guaranteed. That's the full 16M for next season that he was owed and then another 8M for a second season - that's the way I would have broken it down for him. I think that would have been fair/reasonable as he's not worth 16M per season anymore. Would any other team even pay him that much? Absolutely irresponsible contract that they have given him.
They obviously had to promise him something to opt out, another year at least, but what they've given him is insane. He's squeezed a lot of money out of the Spurs FO for doing them the favour of opting out.
People are going to go insane when Parker gets resigned to the 3 years he is wanting. Its probably going to be another sizable amount too. He will be one of their "big" free agent signings next year.
20 years!
I don't ever recall Kawhi saying that he wants to win any individual award. A few years ago he said he wants to be an MVP level player, but winning the actual MVP wasn't his goal or that important to him, he just mentioned that he wanted to get to that level. I've always heard him talk about team goals and winning Championships. That is what seems to drive him. I really don't think this off-season has been good for the Spurs if they want him to stay beyond his current contract.
PG is going to the Lakers and Pop and Cousins don't match...who else ya got? You really think the Spurs can compete with both LA teams, next summer? Come on man.
I'm convinced that r.c. Buford has given up drinking and has graduated to meth. It helps to explain this contract.
And I hope the attendance suffers, that.
In b4 Manu signs for 1/10m and ST explodes forever
As if the attendance is doing any better this year
Giving a player who has played for you one year a loyalty contract
PATFO fluffers Jeff McCuckald and Matthew Tyrion are spinning this as best they can
Shame on those 2 dudes on here doing it as wellGrow some balls and question what those idiots do for once
Exactly.
Again, a lot can change in one year. You just assume that there's no one who'll be interested in the Spurs and so are content to roll with floatsam in Pau/Patty/Rudy. Come on man.
This is a whole new level of PATFO slurping....
FA's aren't coming here, so why even try? Let's pay unplayable scrubs
Manu's article made me realize something. This is what Manu wrote in the article where he "announced" that he's coming back:PATFO fluffers Jeff McCuckald and Matthew Tyrion are spinning this as best they can
Shame on those 2 dudes on here doing it as well
Current Spurs management, the team leaders, the culture, etc... have been around for over 20 years. In that time, they've won 5 championships, posted consistent 50+ win seasons, and several 60+ win seasons. They've been in the playoffs every one of those years, and gone deep in several. At a certain time, they have to start thinking that they've done everything that they're going to do, and the compe ive edge that got them that success inevitably starts to dull. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing -- it's inevitable because they're human.
What does this mean, as applied to the roster? There's a greater priority on what's worked in the past - both in terms of emphasis on "culture" and the type of personnel cultivated: PATFO keeps awarding culture contracts (Patty) or bringing in Spurs-type players (Pau). I understand that thinking: go with what brought you your success. But the problem is it's a wrong approach - think of the old adage "victory can defeat someone."
The Spurs were once known as an organization that innovated - first with drafting foreign personnel, then with cultivating a culture of selflessness (Tim/Tony/Manu), then with developing the "beautiful game." What's so problematic about these contracts are not the contracts in and of themselves (although they're horrific); rather, it's that they signal that the organization is becoming stagnant.
They signal that the organization is content to "run it back" despite the personnel clearly being orders of magnitude below the one team that counts (GSW). They also signal that the organization is stopping/has stopped innovating -- they're just using the same approach over and over again now. And the problem is that approach won't work; they need to innovate again. And this is exactly what worries me the most -- after 20+ years of success, I don't see the motivation in Pop & Co. to innovate. I don't blame them per se -- they're human. But you can get the sense that they should have started incorporating new blood in the organization post 2014. But they didn't and became stagnant.
Victory defeated them.
Last edited by vy65; 07-25-2017 at 09:57 AM.
Man, could they have offered him more than 16M for one year? If so, that's what they should have done. Given him 20M for the year and said see you later next off-season.
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