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    Has he actually signed the thing yet? Could this be his price to agree for a s&t?
    Out - Pau, Green, Murray (or other ~1.2M + salary), picks
    In - Kyrie, Thompson
    CLE moves Kyrie's butt, gets out of Thompson's deal (16.4/17.5/18.5 all fully guaranteed) - sheds ~ 7M in cap this year ( which saves Dan Gilbert 22.5M!, I think), and of course gets Murray and picks.

    If this guess is true, undoubtedly, SAS and CLE are arguing over how many are to be picks involved; Pau will only sign once that is settled...

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    good article.
    CP3 shafted the Spurs... also LMA with his crybaby desire to leave tanking his value.
    https://bballbreakdown.com/2017/07/25/pau-gasol-spurs-lost-offseason/

    On the surface, the Spurs, a team not known for handing out bad contracts, put together one of the most questionable deals of that summer.

    The Gasol contract is essentially the same deal struck with Jefferson so many years ago. The only difference is, unlike with Splitter, the Spurs didn’t accomplish all of their offseason goals.
    bad offseason for sure. Whatever it was they hoped to accomplish with the capspace created by Gasol, they lost on.

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    The Spurs seem -bent on going small this year. They are not doing same old, same old, despite having a similar roster. You can argue that they are not innovating by sticking with their guys, but they wouldn't be doing so by adapting to the "modern NBA" either. Gasol got pay way too much. But signing him is not a sign that PATFO is content. It's a sign that they want to take another shot a GS with a healthy roster. Pop running the same ty offense another season in a row would be a different matter, though.
    The one that had multiple double digit lead a on the warriors lastt year? That offense?


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    ^The one that left most on this website whining all season about this being a one-man team? The one that completely collapsed without that one guy to carry it, and failed to win even one game against said Warriors?

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    well to be fair, an entire healthy Cavs team only won the one game.

    Had lamarcus shown some pantalones maybe they do win game 1 when instead he TO the ball like crazy and crapped his pants, or game 3 which was close. The dude didn't have it in him. In reality, 4 down should be avoided as much as possible. It was evident kawhi made everyone around him better, including Aldridge.. but nooooooo the big guy thinks the Spurs have affected his game negatively...

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    You can't 4 down when we didn't have legit shooters. Mills and Green are like our best outside Leonard. Bertans needs more minutes. Gasol shat himself beyond the arc. So no, you can't play 4 down with this team.

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    good article.
    CP3 shafted the Spurs... also LMA with his crybaby desire to leave tanking his value.
    https://bballbreakdown.com/2017/07/25/pau-gasol-spurs-lost-offseason/


    This.

    As I said elsewhere, good days for Dubs. Two only rivals have had a major player ask to be traded.

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    Maybe Pau said "Marc would be really impressed (wink, wink) if you pay me well."

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    You can't 4 down when we didn't have legit shooters. Mills and Green are like our best outside Leonard. Bertans needs more minutes. Gasol shat himself beyond the arc. So no, you can't play 4 down with this team.
    What are you talking about? Gasol led the league in three point shooting, albeit in a limited but still not unsubstantial sample size. He's not Lance Stephenson.

    Try thinking before you type next time. Do I like the Gasol contract? No. Do I think he has serious holes in his game that don't allow him to play against GS? Yes. Can he shoot well for a big? He did last year.

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    What are you talking about? Gasol led the league in three point shooting, albeit in a limited but still not unsubstantial sample size. He's not Lance Stephenson.

    Try thinking before you type next time. Do I like the Gasol contract? No. Do I think he has serious holes in his game that don't allow him to play against GS? Yes. Can he shoot well for a big? He did last year.
    Gasol shot 33% from three in the playoffs. You know, the time when it matters most? A big bloody drop off from 53%. We rested him, 25mins a game. 6mins less than the year before. And only played 64 games, which about half was off the bench. We rested him so he could performed when it matters. He also only shot 70% from the line.

    Plus, when it comes to shooting 3's, you need to shoot them quick. That's how a 4 down works at it's best. Mills gets it off quick. Same as Manu and Green. Gasol is a slow shooter.

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    Gasol shot 33% from three in the playoffs. You know, the time when it matters most? A big bloody drop off from 53%. We rested him, 25mins a game. 6mins less than the year before. And only played 64 games, which about half was off the bench. We rested him so he could performed when it matters. He also only shot 70% from the line.

    Plus, when it comes to shooting 3's, you need to shoot them quick. That's how a 4 down works at it's best. Mills gets it off quick. Same as Manu and Green. Gasol is a slow shooter.
    Like everybody, I am mystified by the Gasol contract. I do not think this team is suited at all to run 4-down. That said, however, shooting quickly is more important for a 6' shooter than a 7' shooter. Besides 7-footers are not typically guarded as closely on the perimeter as 6-footers. Pau's problem was simple - he went cold during the playoffs. It has nothing to do with having a deliberate release.

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    Jeff is in a tough situation, tbh... If he doesn't fluff PATFO, he loses his job... for as much as Pop pretends to be a progressive, he and the org always had an iron grip over the local media, tbh...
    Yeah. However, this must be PATFO's favorite time of the year when the local hacks like Greg Simmons and Don Harris all turn a blind eye and go make out with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys assholes from training camp until the Cowboys are out of contention or eliminated from the playoffs.

    They should question some of the local teams moves once in a while, these sniveling little no spine cucks. McDonald, like the rest, I'm sure sends over the articles to the information ministry department for review on AT&T Center Parkway, before he runs it.

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    Yeah. However, this must be PATFO's favorite time of the year when the local hacks like Greg Simmons and Don Harris all turn a blind eye and go make out with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys assholes from training camp until the Cowboys are out of contention or eliminated from the playoffs.

    They should question some of the local teams moves once in a while, these sniveling little no spine cucks. McDonald, like the rest, I'm sure sends over the articles to the information ministry department for review on AT&T Center Parkway, before he runs it.
    While it's enjoyable to see a Pop interview, it sucks that no one is willing to ask him the reasoning for Pau's contract. Which is a reasonable question. But even if someone had the nuts to ask him, he wouldn't answer.

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    What are you talking about? Gasol led the league in three point shooting, albeit in a limited but still not unsubstantial sample size. He's not Lance Stephenson.

    Try thinking before you type next time. Do I like the Gasol contract? No. Do I think he has serious holes in his game that don't allow him to play against GS? Yes. Can he shoot well for a big? He did last year.
    So ing what? Bonner could shoot well for a big but hes UNPLAYABLE. There is no need for a c or pf in todays game. There is no need for 7 footers that shoot a 3 in todays game.

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    This off season has been a lil baffling... first the 12:01am Mills over paying. Then there's the Simmons situation, he leaves and sign a 3 year $20M contract. So we just couldn't keep him for that amount? Okay maybe he just wanted out. Derrick Rose is out there. I get it, Rose is FINISHED. Although for $2.1M? Spurs couldn't have got him for...I don't know..let's say $4 or $5M? Okay maybe he just didn't wanna come to SA. Pau gets $16M a year? I literally thought it would be half that. I'm thinking 3 years $24M would be a nice contract for Pau. Was I wrong! This seems like a thanks for everything/franchise player contract. Like Tony and Manu got. To a bigger extent, like Kobe got. Heck they really couldn't pay him the $16.2M and see what happens? Heck Javale McGee could probably be gotten for 2 years $12M or less. Between the $2 to $3M Mills got overpayed and the $8 or $9M Pau got overpayed, seems like that difference could had afforded the Spurs J-SIMMONS. Oh yeah the Spurs second best player may not wanna be there. If the Spurs did trade Aldridge, at this point, I'm a lil concerned at what they may get/take for him. Is Pop behind these signings? Well at least the Spurs have a Bad MFer in Kawhi Leonard.

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    Minimal, no else is going to offer him that kind of money. Spurs thrive on outbidding themselves.
    Noooo.... lol. Surprising contract to say the least.

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    You can't 4 down when we didn't have legit shooters. Mills and Green are like our best outside Leonard. Bertans needs more minutes. Gasol shat himself beyond the arc. So no, you can't play 4 down with this team.
    While I expect that Pop learned something from trying to play 4-down with LMA who isn't the great passer that Tim was and doesn't find shooters in the way that Tim or even Boris did, I agree with you that the Spurs can't play 4-down with this roster, also, they don't have elite 3-point shooters if Mills and Green are our best guys.

    Patty 36% 3P and Danny 34% were horrible in playoffs, Pau too 33%. The young guys like Davis, Bryn didn't have minutes, I'm not sure they will play too much this new season. They should but Pop is sometimes too much Pop, it's likely that Manu and Patty will play a lot more than Forbes and the rookies.

    Spurs need a true, elite shooter playing in the perimeter. This poor lastest version of Danny isn't that guy anymore. And Patty is so inconsistent from 3.
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    Gasol shot 33% from three in the playoffs. You know, the time when it matters most? A big bloody drop off from 53%. We rested him, 25mins a game. 6mins less than the year before. And only played 64 games, which about half was off the bench. We rested him so he could performed when it matters. He also only shot 70% from the line.

    Plus, when it comes to shooting 3's, you need to shoot them quick. That's how a 4 down works at it's best. Mills gets it off quick. Same as Manu and Green. Gasol is a slow shooter.
    You're either incapable of comprehending stats or a poorly executing troll. He took 18 three point attempts in the playoffs. The difference between 33% and 39% is one make. One. Friggen. Shot. Sample size?

    Stats to fit a narrative are nice until someone pokes a huge hole in the first thing you quote. Try harder next time.

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    So ing what? Bonner could shoot well for a big but hes UNPLAYABLE. There is no need for a c or pf in todays game. There is no need for 7 footers that shoot a 3 in todays game.
    Could Bonner pass or rebound?

    And I didn't make an argument, if you actually read my post, for the Gasol contract. I am 100% against it. Just calling out a stupid comment that he's a bad shooter. False narrative followed by misleading stats in the prior response.

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    What a summer. Spurs could have gotten two max slots in 2018 but after Pau's deal is not certain they will have one....If you dont like this deal just wait for Parker's new contract next season

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    And it gets worse...

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    Sounds like they told Pau that they'd make him whole for this coming year, and then toss him another 22 million guaranteed over the next two years for his troubles, so long as they had say in how they structured the last two years. Best beat they move his ass before that guarantee date.

    Still think the deal is still insane.

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    They're paying this roughly 18M a year for the next two seasons for a 37 year old? Get the frig out of here. The most overrated FO possibly all-time.

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