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This actually should be a picture of Dan Gilbert as Kyrie has no say in where he goes.
This actually should be a picture of Dan Gilbert as Kyrie has no say in where he goes.
Why wouldn't he have a say? Didn't Carmelo force his way to New York when he was in Denver? I don't recall if he had a no trade clause in Denver.This actually should be a picture of Dan Gilbert as Kyrie has no say in where he goes.
Can't Kyrie simply refuse to play for any other team apart from the ones on his list? Can't his people put it out there so that those teams low ball with their offers?
I don't think there is much Kyrie can do if they want to trade him, but teams are surely concerned that star players coming their way are coming to win.
If he refuses to play, he won't get paid and can even be sued. The only thing he can say is he'll refuse to resign with a given team. But as his contract is for two more years, that doesn't carry much weight.
Melo did not have a no trade clause on his deal with Denver. I think though he was in the last year of his contract so the "I won't resign with anyone other than NY" was a lot more potent than Kyrie's situation with multiple years left on his current deal.
Melo was a FA in the offseason and made it clear where he would sign (the Knicks in first place by wide margin). Irving has two years left on his deal, so way less control. Though teams may not mortgage everything to get him if they don't think he'll re-sign, so it could help the Spurs' and other teams he likes.
Knicks aren't trading KP and have nothing else the Cavs would value (Melo alone doesn't get it done, but maybe Melo plus absorbing Shumpert's deal). Minnesota should deal Wiggins for him but won't. They don't have the pieces to make a deal work as Butler and Towns aren't moving. Teague is probably overpaid and can't be dealt yet. Miami and Dragic is interesting. Phoenix - who knows? With Knight out for the year, they may try tanking again. But swapping Kyrie for Bledsoe+ is probably the best deal on the table.
If Spurs do Green and involve a third team (Suns) to send assets for Aldridge, that plus Murray may trump other offers.
I really don't see Riley wanting to help a LeBron team get rid of Irving, and don't see Cleveland wanting to make a Miami team stronger. Miami and NY were just teams Kyrie likely threw in only because of their location.
They say NY because its close to him, but then Brooklyn should be there too ...
A player can always force a destination, because before the trade happens the owning team will allow the trade partner to contact him and he can clearly tell them. «i don't want to play for you, trade for me if you want but all you ate e going to get are subpar performance. And i won't resign»
What a ing drama. This is getting ridiculous.
This "no contact" BS better not inspire LMA to do the same.
You know as time draws on, I actually can't wait to see a pissed off LMA! Should work in our favor.This "no contact" BS better not inspire LMA to do the same.
Agreed. It could go either way. He might be the best we've seen him or the worst.
Suns or bust imo.
Or Minny.
Doesn't sound like he's gotten over himself. Spurs, most likely, not interested.
I'm swaying towards the side that isn't willing to give up all of Aldridge, Green, Murray, and a 1st-rounder. That's a ton to give up and there's no guarantee Kyrie won't pull this same in San Antonio.
I am starting to agree. Once Spurs couldn't swing the trade they proposed way back around the draft we haven't heard any rumors... this is like Rose. All this drama must be turning the Spurs off. Even LMA rumors didn't reach this drama.
True. The longer this goes on the less likely Cavs get the kings ransom. Gilbert should've taken the trades Griffin negotiated.
I doubt the Spurs have even inquired, or if they have it's been cursory at best.
A player disgruntled playing for a team that is virtually guaranteed to make it to the finals year in and year out?
A player that demands the ball and chucks up shots like crazy (see Lowe article) and plays no D?
He is going to eat up a lot of cap space.
So we don't want kyrie because he wants to leave Cleveland?
For the record, I want Kyrie Irving, Boogie and Giannis. I wanted KD, CP3, Hayward and PG13 too. Didn't want Jason Kidd tho'.
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