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Im sure they will pass something. Even if its just passing gas
Trump will sign it and check off another item off his list of promises
Another victory for Trump
Republicans are getting ready to toss the rule of law out the ing window. I'm not sure parliamentary procedure is going to stop them.
Im sure they will pass something. Even if its just passing gas
Trump will sign it and check off another item off his list of promises
Another victory for Trump
NATE SILVER 12:55 PM
‘Skinny Repeal’ Would Still Create Big Political Headaches For The GOP (But Probably Not As Many As BCRA)
My colleagues have already shared their thoughts on whether “skinny repeal” would be popular. So let me pass my impressions along also, with the goal of stepping back and casting a slightly wider lens.
At various times since Republicans first proposed a health care bill in March, I’ve wondered about the political wisdom of taking such a sweeping approach. The House’s American Health Care Act and the Senate’s Better Care Reconciliation Act would both have made massive cuts to Medicaid and used those cuts, it part, to finance tax cuts that would mostly have helped well-off Americans. And tens of millions of people would have lost insurance coverage. It’s hard to write a popular health care bill; Americans are inherently nervous about changes to the health care system. But AHCA and BCRA almost seemed designed to be as unpopular as possible.
As compared to AHCA or BCRA, “skinny repeal” would be narrower and much more targeted — and its primary goal would be repealing the individual mandate, which is pretty unpopular. Republicans probably would have a lot of problems next year when premiums increased as a result of the individual mandate being repealed. But in comparison to AHCA or BCRA — which would also have disrupted the insurance marketplaces — they’d be somewhat more palatable, politically.
Here’s the thing, though. Republicans wouldn’t be passing “skinny repeal” in a vacuum. Instead, they’d be passing it after a months-long debate in which many of their members had already voted for the super-unpopular AHCA or BCRA at some point along the way. Meanwhile, the Republican base’s expectations have been raised by the AHCA and BCRA and by years of promises to repeal Obamacare. While some conservatives will give them credit for “repealing Obamacare” by removing the individual mandate, others will feel disappointed — or even betrayed that they left so much of Obamacare intact.
So Republicans would wind up with:
1. A lot of Republicans on record as having voted for AHCA or BCRA;
2. A substantial likelihood of premium increases that will kick in before the 2018 midterms, and a resulting increase in the uninsured population.
3. A bill that the GOP base isn’t all that thrilled about;
4. A public which is broadly confused by the months-long process — with the result of the confusion being that the public tends to read all of the above in an unfavorable light for Republicans.
In exchange, they get:
1. Trump and congressional leaders claiming some kind of “win” for having “repealed Obamacare.”
2. Removal of a provision, the individual mandate, that was rather unpopular.
That isn’t a good trade for Republicans. It’s a pretty bad one, in fact, and one which will contribute to the likelihood of Republicans losing seats in Congress next year.
It’s still probably better than enacting AHCA or BCRA into law, however, just because those bills are so unpopular and would be even more disruptive to insurance coverage.
No way, hater. Zero crafted his vehicle magnificently. It is fool proof. What's so graveling is that he knew, (Zero knew)---he took nothing ie.('16 Election) for granted. "Eh, I won't go thru this with a fine tooth comb. I'll just write it, they'll pass it, I'll sign it, Hillary will be President the next 8 years and I'll cross that bridge in 15 years, need be."
Uh, uh. He sat down with his people and took every angle and eventuality to heart. Mapped it all out. All contingencies were covered. It is a testament to genius. Obama is (The Killer). Hillary never was. And he tried with all his might & cunning to drive her to be like him, to seize the moment and she would not, or, could not do it. The mere fact that he planned for such a failure of the human spirit (her's) is stunning. And now he can sit there, denied another 8 years in the WH, yes, but, they can't touch his ObamaCare. His legacy will go down in the scrolls.
& I heartily believe Trump knows this, has come to realize. HIS people have sat down, poured over it and found it 100% bullet proof. He's playing the string out, but, he knows he can't win here.
Zero
zero will own donna always and forever.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog...e-health-care/
ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 1:59 PM
Legislative Swiss Cheese
One thing worth bearing in mind throughout the next crazy hours of Senate debate: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell chose to approach the GOP effort to repeal and replace parts of the ACA using the reconciliation process. The benefit of this process for the GOP is that it needs only 50 votes to pass, so it doesn’t have to work with Democrats to craft or pass the bill. The down side is there are limitations on what can be included in the bill, because each provisions must be primarily about making changes to the budget. It also puts a deadline on passing the bill for complicated reasons.
The Senate Parliamentarian, who determines whether the bill follows those rules, has issued guidance that many of the GOP ideas included in the various iterations of Senate legislation proposed so far don’t comply. That includes provisions that would:
1. Restrict funding for Planned Parenthood,
2. Allow insurers to charge older adults five times as much as younger adults,
3. Ins ute a six month waiting period to buy insurance if you haven’t had continuous coverage (which is supposed to function as a replacement to the individual mandate),
4. Make available waivers to allow states to forgo insurance market regulations.
Getting rid of these provisions makes Swiss cheese out of the bills Republicans have put forward so far. It’s unclear what that will mean for their final bill proposal. At the moment, two of the options seem to be to leave those provisions out (as would be the case with a true “skinny repeal” bill that just ended the individual mandate, the employer mandate and perhaps a few other things) and hope they can get enough votes without them, or they could choose to overrule the Parliamentarian, ending the Senate as we know it.
He would've had he been able to win that 3rd/4th term(s). You can lead a horse/Hillary to water, but, you can't make her drink.
NATE SILVER 2:14 PM
’Skinny Repeal’ Isn’t Having A Great Day
It’s been hard to make reliable predictions about exactly how the health care debate will play out. The general rule has been that Republicans are never as close to passing a bill as they seem to be at their best moments, nor never as far from it as they seem to be at their worst ones.
But whereas “skinny repeal” seemed to have a lot of momentum initially — with er indicating he would back it, for example — the news so far today has been more troubling for its prospects. Here’s a sampling:
1. House Freedom Caucus chair Mark Meadows said there’s “not enough appe e” to pass “skinny repeal” in the House as currently constructed.
2. South Dakota Sen. Mike Rounds said he wanted a guarantee that “skinny repeal” wouldn’t pass the House, or that its implementation would be delayed.
3. Arizona Sen. John McCain said he’s still undecided on “skinny repeal.”
4. And various provisions that were supposed to be in the “skinny repeal” bill keep getting nixed by the Senate parliamentarian, meaning they’d require 60 votes (or for the GOP to eliminate the legislative filibuster) to pass.
So … who knows. Fundamentally, however, McConnell is playing a game of three-card Monte with his caucus. Some members (like er) are willing to vote for “skinny repeal” only in order to avoid having to vote for something like AHCA or BCRA, while others (like Rounds) want to vote for “skinny repeal” only because they hope it turns into something like AHCA or BCRA after conference with the House. It might be a neat trick if McConnell pulls it off, but it was never going to be easy.
May 4 Repugs took the bus to WH to celebrate passing their bull , murderous bill
Republican Senator Murkowski Just Declared War On Trump For Threatening Her Cons uents
The Hill reports that Chairwoman Murkowski has ordered the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to publicly postponed a vote on confirming six Trump Interior Department nominees in a signal that she will not take his threats lying down.
The nominees would have been:
- Brenda Burman, commissioner of reclamation at Interior
- Susan Combs to be assistant secretary of the Interior for policy, managment, and budget
- Doug Domenech, assistant secretary of the Interior for insular affairs
- Paul Dabbar to be undersecretary for science of the Department of Energy
- David Jonas to be general counsel of the Department of Energy
- Mark Wesley Menezes to be undersecretary of the Department of Energy
So far, Zinke and Energy Secretary Rick Perry are the only Senate-confirmed officials at their agencies, some six months after Trump took office.
http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07...-cons uents/
Parliamentarian issues warning on another GOP healthcare proposal
The Senate parliamentarian advised senators Thursday that another GOP healthcare proposal will need 60 votes for passage because it violates Senate rules.
The GOP's repeal and replace plan, which failed on the floor Tuesday, contained a provision that would allow states to waive some ObamaCare requirements, including one that says insurers must cover 10 certain benefits in all of their plans.
But the parliamentarian advised that the language would violate the rules of reconciliation, the fast track budget maneuver Republicans are using that only needs 51 votes and is immune to Democratic filibuster.
Because the state waivers language violates these rules, it would need 60 votes, which is impossible without Democratic support. The parliamentarian has already said that a number of other provisions could be stripped out.
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...hcare-proposal
Wasn't McC supposed to be a master tactician in (ab)using Senate rules?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog...e-health-care/
HARRY ENTEN 3:47 PM
Some GOP senators have said they will vote for “skinny repeal” with the understanding that it would not become law. Instead, these senators are supposedly voting for a process that would allow the House and Senate to conference and determine then what the health care bill will look like. That, however, may be a major miscalculation by these GOP senators. According to new reports, the House could stick around this weekend to potentially vote on “skinny repeal.” In other words, the Senate’s “skinny repeal” bill could end up becoming law — and that law could lead to many more uninsured Americans.
Senate Rejects GOP Proposal to Repeal Obamacare
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-re...202737369.html
drain this swamp
The skinny repeal is going to happen since er has said he'll go along with it.Senate Rejects GOP Proposal to Repeal Obamacare
https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-re...202737369.html
Well, unless McConnell leaves the stuff in the skinny repeal that would require 60 votes just as a way to wash his hands of the repeal. But I'm betting it'll just be the skinny repeal minus the stuff that can't appear in a reconciliation bill.
Totally sounds like a bait and switch.
House s letting them think they will convene somehow but will pass the ty "skinny repeal" bill into law.
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A move so obvious Tim ing Kaine knows it.
NATE SILVER 5:02 PM
McConnell And Ryan Have Baited-and-Switched Their Members Before
I’m not sure what this 5:15 p.m. press conference is about, but if Republicans are growing nervous about the strategy to pass a “skinny repeal” bill in the hopes that problems with the bill can be fixed in conference, they may finally be wising up.
It was only a couple of months ago that the House passed AHCA, with Republican leaders telling moderates to vote yes on the bill partly on the premise that the problems with AHCA would be fixed by the Senate. Instead, the Senate’s version of the bill, BCRA, was extremely similar to the House’s, including in its major rollback of Medicaid.
Orrin Hatch said he's seen the bill and he doesn't see anything passing.
yep the country teach trump a lesson
the election process that put trump in office
they only care about teaching trump a lesson
LOL walking corpse McCain gives a speech of a no voter but will till vote for this piece of .
Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.
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