Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[TimDunkem]

Kyrie was 19-21yrs old when he was the main man If you're expecting him to carry teams with Anthony Bennett, Andrew Bynum's corpse, and coaches like Byron Scott & Mike Brown to the playoffs then you should've been aborted.

During that span he made the All Star team twice and averaged 21/4/6 on 44FG% & 38 3P%. He wasn't even old enough to drink when he had to carry those teams.

Some of you are truly idiots.

Some of these hese ing rubes want to look so intelligent and are so concerned with outsmarting others that they end up overthinking basketball and outsmarting themselves.

People want to cry about cancerous behavior, ball dominance, and poor defense when they've had a poor defensive, ball dominant point guard who betrayed his teammates by texting wives for well over a ing decade...And he was never as talented as Kyrie.

[Mr. Body]

Kyrie is a headcase like young Stephon Marbury was. He wants to be the "man", yet when he's had the chance his teams were piss poor record-wise like Marbury's teams were after he left Minnesota.

He can't even decide from one day to the next which his preferred team would be if he is traded. First, it's the Spurs, then the Timberwolves and now, the Knicks.

Don't want him here. I don't want a player that will take shots away from Kawhi and not share the ball.

You think what the media is reporting is what he actually wants and believes.

[dubross]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...iers-value-him

“So far, these are among the teams who've made offers to the Cavaliers for Irving, league sources tell ESPN: The San Antonio Spurs, LA Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Minnesota Timberwolves, New York Knicks and Miami Heat. There were approximately 20 teams that inquired with Cleveland upon the news of Irving's trade request, league sources said, but far fewer have registered legitimate proposals. More loom in the shadows, and many interested simply don't have the assets to make a deal happen.”

[21209]

You think what the media is reporting is what he actually wants and believes.

Why not?

It seems to fit his personality.

[Spurs9]

"[Wolfson] The #Twolves have made the Cavs an official offer for Kyrie Irving, per @wojespn. So have 5 other teams [Spurs, Clippers, Suns, Knicks, Heat]. No, I don't know the specifics yet."

[Ice009]

Good. Glad to hear that the Spurs have made an offer. I am happy with that. If a deal doesn't get done, I can accept that.

[RLT]

Kyrie was 19-21yrs old when he was the main man If you're expecting him to carry teams with Anthony Bennett, Andrew Bynum's corpse, and coaches like Byron Scott & Mike Brown to the playoffs then you should've been aborted.

During that span he made the All Star team twice and averaged 21/4/6 on 44FG% & 38 3P%. He wasn't even old enough to drink when he had to carry those teams.

Some of you are truly idiots.

It's disturbing sometimes

[Leetonidas]

Lol ST posters. I bet pop and rc didn't bother to call

[DPG21920]

Lol ST posters. I bet pop and rc didn't bother to call

Yup.

[ducks]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...iers-value-him

“So far, these are among the teams who've made offers to the Cavaliers for Irving, league sources tell ESPN: The San Antonio Spurs, LA Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Minnesota Timberwolves, New York Knicks and Miami Heat. There were approximately 20 teams that inquired with Cleveland upon the news of Irving's trade request, league sources said, but far fewer have registered legitimate proposals. More loom in the shadows, and many interested simply don't have the assets to make a deal happen.”

[look_at_g_shred]

Well if you think about who the spurs offered. Think about this..there was a specific reason why Murray was pulled from Summer League, and I don't buy the injury excuse. Maybe spurs had got wind Kyrie wanted out around that time because if your remember there was a report that spurs/cavs were working on a trade draft night. I'm sure these players were involved in trade talks: LMA/Green/Murray

[RLT]

Lol ST posters. I bet pop and rc didn't bother to call

Yup.

Lol 87,000 post combined and you post garbage like this. From this alone, I can tell you that most of the posters here are more knowledgeable about this team than yall. Scrubs.

[RLT]

Well if you think about who the spurs offered. Think about this..there was a specific reason why Murray was pulled from Summer League, and I don't buy the injury excuse. Maybe spurs had got wind Kyrie wanted out around that time because if your remember there was a report that spurs/cavs were working on a trade draft night. I'm sure these players were involved in trade talks: LMA/Green/Murray

Absolutely.

[DPG21920]

Well if you think about who the spurs offered. Think about this..there was a specific reason why Murray was pulled from Summer League, and I don't buy the injury excuse. Maybe spurs had got wind Kyrie wanted out around that time because if your remember there was a report that spurs/cavs were working on a trade draft night. I'm sure these players were involved in trade talks: LMA/Green/Murray

Those are SA's only real assets and Danny/Murray are the one's to links with Lebron. I'm assuming the offer had to be like said PLUS at least one first round pick unprotected.

[look_at_g_shred]

Those are SA's only real assets and Danny/Murray are the one's to links with Lebron. I'm assuming the offer had to be like said PLUS at least one first round pick unprotected.

Don't be surprised if Bertans was offered as well.

[cd021]

Aldridge is gone next summer if not sooner. The Spurs have a lot of point guards but none of them are any good, so I don't buy that Aldridge is a better fit. Plus Irving is 25 while Aldridge is 32 and declining. I don't care much about next year since GSW is repeating unless Curry or Durant is out for the WCF or the Finals. Irving is a piece to build around to be back in le contention in a couple of years.

And I love Green, but he's much easier to replace than it is to get a player of Irving's caliber. I would without hesitating trade Green, a 2018 first, Murray, and Aldridge for Irving and Shumpert even though I hate Shumpert's game and his contract is awful.

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

[Spurs9]

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.


Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

Do it RC.

[Mr. Body]

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

I would do this. The likelihood of LMA opting in making losing Green palatable.

[sasaint]

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

If the Suns do not get Kyrie, I am not sure I could see them facilitating the Spurs' acquisition of him, tbh.

[tmtcsc]

Don't be surprised if Bertans was offered as well.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. He was AWFUL in the summer league & showed nothing in terms of rebounding.

[Mr. Body]

If the Suns do not get Kyrie, I am not sure I could see them facilitating the Spurs' acquisition of him, tbh.

Why not? They're not competing at the same level at this point.

[sasaint]

I would do this. The likelihood of LMA opting in making losing Green palatable.

I don't follow you. How does the likelihood of LMA's opting in make the loss of Green more palatable? Two different players, two different positions, one happy to be a Spur and one not...

[look_at_g_shred]

I don't follow you. How does the likelihood of LMA's opting in make the loss of Green more palatable? Two different players, two different positions, one happy to be a Spur and one not...

I think he means that he'd rather package Green with LMA if it meant not having LMA on the team for 2 more seasons.

[sasaint]

Why not? They're not competing at the same level at this point.

Lots of bad blood between the franchises over the years... Western conference rivals... Old LMA and Frye not filling a position of need when they have Bender and Chriss on board.

[Mr. Body]

I don't follow you. How does the likelihood of LMA's opting in make the loss of Green more palatable? Two different players, two different positions, one happy to be a Spur and one not...

LMA opting in with the Spurs is deadweight and potentially very bad. I don't want to lose Green but would do it if it avoids a bad situation and moves us forward.