Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[look_at_g_shred]

I wouldn't be surprised at all. He was AWFUL in the summer league & showed nothing in terms of rebounding.

You are correct. Would much rather have Marco back tbh

[sasaint]

Those are SA's only real assets and Danny/Murray are the one's to links with Lebron. I'm assuming the offer had to be like said PLUS at least one first round pick unprotected.

Protecting a Spurs pick would be pretty unnecessary - unless it was top-29 protected, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Protecting a Spurs pick would be pretty unnecessary - unless it was top-29 protected, tbh.

While this is true, things like injuries happen, etc..Was just saying I would think any pick from the Spurs would have to be unprotected.

[sasaint]

I think he means that he'd rather package Green with LMA if it meant not having LMA on the team for 2 more seasons.

Here! Here! to that!

[RiverwalkParade]

Have to think other teams are assuming LMA opts in next season and are factoring that in to their decisions. They know it will tie up our cap and keep us from being compe ive next offseason. Probably not going to find a willing partner for him. Probably why we paid so much for Gasol.

[sasaint]

While this is true, things like injuries happen, etc..Was just saying I would think any pick from the Spurs would have to be unprotected.

I don't think the Spurs ever even think about protecting picks. But who knows? When was the last trade of any consequence they made?

[sasaint]

Have to think other teams are assuming LMA opts in next season and are factoring that in to their decisions. They know it will tie up our cap and keep us from being compe ive next offseason. Probably not going to find a willing partner for him. Probably why we paid so much for Gasol.

Wait... we paid so much for Gasol so that we could guarantee ourselves the services of TWO overpaid, soft bigs?

[cd021]

If the Suns do not get Kyrie, I am not sure I could see them facilitating the Spurs' acquisition of him, tbh.

That's what the 1st round pick is for; if not they can go themselves, twice.

[cd021]

Have to think other teams are assuming LMA opts in next season and are factoring that in to their decisions. They know it will tie up our cap and keep us from being compe ive next offseason. Probably not going to find a willing partner for him. Probably why we paid so much for Gasol.

The Suns would still save money in 18-19 in my scenario above, almost $15 million by moving Bledsoe, Chandler, and Dudley and taking back LMA.

[sasaint]

Wait... we paid so much for Gasol so that we could guarantee ourselves the services of TWO overpaid, soft bigs?

[Ron Swanson]

Lol ST posters. I bet pop and rc didn't bother to call

[tmtcsc]

You are correct. Would much rather have Marco back tbh

A package of Aldridge, Green, Bertans & Murray for Irving wouldn't phase me one bit. Despite the game against Houston, Danny Green really didn't have a good playoff showing. He's still a GOOD defender but not good enough to put up with his offensive liabilities. He's not worthy of starting in my opinion. Murray is the biggest pile of spit in the bunch and is all talk & selfies so far. Rubbing shoulders with people who can play won't make him a champion or all-star by osmosis. -- Although he seems to think he runs in those circles. What an asswhip.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Wish we had specifics as to what was offered by SA..

[DPG21920]

Wish we had specifics as to what was offered by SA..

Maybe eventually there will be but you know better...MIA only leaked because they think their package is solid (it is) but they know CLE won't deal with them so they are trying to put public pressure on CLE.

But, with the reports of CLE and SA talking trades during free agency centered around Danny/LMA we can piece most of it together.

[Chinook]

I still haven't really gotten an answer to the question: Is LMA opting in or out supposed to be the bad thing?

The whole reason why SA was supposedly trying to move Aldridge is because he was pissed at being a Spurs and was definitely gone. It's not because he's a bad contract or bad player. Him being "disgruntled" isn't a big deal seeing as he was an All-Star in Portland despite it being provable that he wanted out of there.

If we all thought he was going to opt in, then his trade value would increase, not decrease. Guys like Blake and Millsap are getting paid a ton more and aren't much (or at all in Paul's case) better. A team like Phoenix can't afford to give up long-term assets on a rental. But having him for two years with a willingness to extend? That makes it a better deal for them.

The hate LMA continuously gets is unreal and ing stupid. You sure as don't give up even more assets to prevent the idea of having LMA over $15 Million or so in cap. That's even more true with the team giving Pau a two-and-a-half year deal worth so much.

[baseline bum]

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

I'd do that trade in a second, but it's really hard to see the Suns prioritize dumping Chandler's contract over landing Irving if the Cavs cave on their demand for Jackson.

[sasaint]

A package of Aldridge, Green, Bertans & Murray for Irving wouldn't phase me one bit. Despite the game against Houston, Danny Green really didn't have a good playoff showing. He's still a GOOD defender but not good enough to put up with his offensive liabilities. He's not worthy of starting in my opinion. Murray is the biggest pile of spit in the bunch and is all talk & selfies so far. Rubbing shoulders with people who can play won't make him a champion or all-star by osmosis. -- Although he seems to think he runs in those circles. What an asswhip.

Plus LMA wants out. As much as I like Bertans' sharpshooter mentality, I fear he is a tweener and a poor man-on-man defender at either forward position.

Wish we had specifics as to what was offered by SA..

Hopefully, it will come out when the deal is done.

[sasaint]

Maybe eventually there will be but you know better...MIA only leaked because they think their package is solid (it is) but they know CLE won't deal with them so they are trying to put public pressure on CLE.

But, with the reports of CLE and SA talking trades during free agency centered around Danny/LMA we can piece most of it together.

What did Miami offer?

[Leetonidas]

Lol 87,000 post combined and you post garbage like this. From this alone, I can tell you that most of the posters here are more knowledgeable about this team than yall. Scrubs.

Sick burn scrub. Make a name for yourself before coming at a legit poster you ing no name re

[dubross]

What did Miami offer?

Package involving Dragic and Winslow

[Chinook]

Maybe eventually there will be but you know better...MIA only leaked because they think their package is solid (it is) but they know CLE won't deal with them so they are trying to put public pressure on CLE.

But, with the reports of CLE and SA talking trades during free agency centered around Danny/LMA we can piece most of it together.

A package of Winslow and Dragic is hardly solid. Justise hasn't been a good player, and Dragic is getting paid a lot and is on the decline. If that makes Cleveland pause, then this should wrapped up pretty soon, because all 20 teams reportedly interested could give them that.

[sasaint]

Package involving Dragic and Winslow

I hope that GMBron really, really values his protégé, Dijon.

[ducks]

If they do, though, do you see that deal getting done?

the sports writer said on draft night deal was very close
but cavs want josh if they do it will be done

[ducks]

Aldridge most certainly opts in unless his agent is able to find a market for him, $22.5 million to a 33 year old LMA likely coming off three straight seasons of less than 19 ppg probably seems like the safe bet unless a team is willing to offer him a 3 year, $50+ deal.

Much rather keep Green and pair him with Irving and Leonard to minimize Irving's dumpster fire defense but it's doubtful that the Spurs can keep him in any potential trade.

My trade proposal:

Cav's Get:

Eric Bledsoe
Jared Dudley
Danny Green
Dejounte Murray

Spurs Get

Kyrie Irving
Tyson Chandler

Suns Get:

LaMarcus Aldridge
2018 Spurs 1st Round Pick
Channing Frye
Kay Felder


Move would be good for all three teams tbh:

Cavs are better equip to play against GSW by adding wing depth and Bledsoe is a much better defender than Irving and coming off a career year.

Suns lose out on Irving but they probably weren't getting him without Josh Jackson. Get rid of Bledsoe and Chandler, both of whom they were probably interested in moving plus they dump Dudley. They clear out ~$38 million in 18-19 if Aldridge were to opt out.

Spurs get the best player while also potentially salvaging next off season where they could be over the cap if LMA + Green or Gay opt in.

this trade suggested needs to be forwarded to spurs front office

[cd021]

Package involving Dragic and Winslow

Would think Adebayo would have to be involved too, for it to even be considered.