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    What about the new taco named in honour of Manu? The "alzeimer"
    That's funny, I give you that one ...surely you'll use the packaging as wall paper at your place.

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    Manu is a former star.. others get fouled and it doesn't necessarily get called. GSW gets away with murder often gambling for steals too. the bigs were pushed around with two hands in their backs and fouled sometimes and not called. Etc. I could cite stats... check them out if you want... but you won't care. It's false that Manu was the only one to show up.... AND he Went missing for the 2 prior rounds but yeah that doesn't count
    Listen I am not ting on Manu but he shat the bed for 5 games with 0% scoring and wouldn't get benched. He got as many chances as possible to wake up. The narrative he was the only one to show up is false and should the team depend on him too much they could be in trouble...
    We're waiting the day that you admit your hidden Manu hate. We know you're a blind Kyle's homer and you're angry because Manu takes some minutes of your boyfriend. So, of course you can say what you want but when you talk about Manu, your comments are very biased.

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    He's the cultural liaison between the Spurs and the Mexican community in San Antonio tbh.

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    In other words when healthy GINOBILI shows up when it matters most. He will go out swinging. That's all a fan can ask.
    But on 40 year legs will that even be enought to make a difference in the playoffs??

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    Duncan and the Admiral knew when it was time to check out. Classy.
    Robinson was many times more effective as a player at the end of his career compared to Manu, yet he chose to exit in style and grace.
    I guess Manu is laughing all the way to the bank.

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    Duncan and the Admiral knew when it was time to check out. Classy.
    Robinson was many times more effective as a player at the end of his career compared to Manu, yet he chose to exit in style and grace.
    I guess Manu is laughing all the way to the bank.
    A herniated vertebral disc will spur that decision...

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    I realize ppl are opinionated and en led to think whatever. It's been a long time since I tried to convince anyone of anything here, it's pointless. But Manu was absolutely not the only one who showed up in the playoffs... or against the warriors. If you don't like it fine. You are en led to think whatever, but its' not true.

    In fact maybe 3 games of the entire prior 2 series he really showed up and was impactful in. And he really only had a couple of good games in the warriors series, once Kawhi went down. If you aren't hoping some youngster can pick up his play and supply what he's going to be lacking at 40 I don't know what to think of you but delusional. Notice I mentioned Kyle bc he doesn't get credit here.. but he wansn't the only one. I am not a Jsimms fan but he showed up... and I think Dejounte was very impactful defensiely and competed as well as could be hoped of a 20 year old that spent a month and half prior to the postseason injured. The fact these guys outplayed Manu at times should show you how declined he is. none of those guys gets to stay in games if they keep mailing it in like Manu did for 5 games in a row.
    Look I don't care if you think the narrative about the GSW series is false. This isn't some personal beef, I think you are a good poster and contribute actual basketball takes to this site (unlike the cesspool of trolls who call this site home). But we will have to agree to disagree on your take of Manu's competencies and contributional potential.

    I understand my argument in the GSW series is somewhat subjective but it's a direct observation of that "always gonna fight" at ude. Let's forget about the points, let's forget about the efficiciency... bluntly stated, a 39 year old should not be out-hustling the younger players. He should not lead the team in free throw attempts or charges drawn. Your excuse that somehow Manu got calls that the youngsters weren't getting doesn't pass the eye-test either. They were settling for jump shots when Manu was running like a bull to the basket. Running back to stop the fastbreak. Yes the GSW had more talent on the court, but Manu didn't care - some of the other guys were playing defeated or padding empty stats on the offensive side while showing less hustle on the defensive side... playing carelessly at times, not valuing each playoff possession. I still believe that if the Spurs would've won Game 3, Kawhi would've been allowed to suit up for Game 4. It was a winnable game and plays like the play I described in my previous post stood out as game changing. We kept giving them momentum every time they let the GSW out-hustle them on their home court, every time they had a mental lapse, every time we refused to match their physicality. The Spurs were bullied and collectively cowered. Ginobili, despite his many limitations refused to do so.

    Again, I wanted every Spur on the court to perform well. And the only one who was really ticking me off was LMA. Due to his unwillingness to get physical, to show any signs of courage in the face of adversity - he was sulking and it was visible enough for everyone to see. The flip side of the argument was watching Ginobili up his relentlessness. Yes, Manu mightily struggled with his shot against the Grizzlies and against the Rockets - especially from the outside. The reality of his time on the court however was that he still contributed with assists, rebounding, steals and with hustle. Manu was being a pest even while his shot was broken. Also, given his exaggerated rep around here, he only had 12 turnovers across 15 playoff games. Lastly, despite his scoring struggles, Manu was only 8th in minutes played against the Grizz and 7th in minutes played against the Rockets. His presence wasn't holding anyone back but his contributions were still needed.
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    Not in round 1 and 2 tbqh

    Round 3 yes. But we got swept
    He saved our ass that one Memphis game. And did you already forget "The Block"?

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    haven't you learned anything...regualar season means nothing...and if he gets to the playoffs healthy he is still weapon...your telling me the cavs wouldnt have taken manu vs the warriors in the finals over shumpart or jefferson

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    We're waiting the day that you admit your hidden Manu hate. We know you're a blind Kyle's homer and you're angry because Manu takes some minutes of your boyfriend. So, of course you can say what you want but when you talk about Manu, your comments are very biased.
    ok.
    I am not going to say anything else about the subject bc I already said enough and I need not repeat what I said.
    See anyone criticizing anything about Manu gets branded a hater. I only expressed objection to references that he was the only one to show up in the playoffs when Kawhi got injured. That isn't true.
    Now the manu fandom took offense to that. and that is that.

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    Look I don't care if you think the narrative about the GSW series is false. This isn't some personal beef, I think you are a good poster and contribute actual basketball takes to this site (unlike the cesspool of trolls who call this site home). But we will have to agree to disagree on your take of Manu's competencies and contributional potential.

    I understand my argument in the GSW series is somewhat subjective but it's a direct observation of that "always gonna fight" at ude. Let's forget about the points, let's forget about the efficiciency... bluntly stated, a 39 year old should not be out-hustling the younger players. He should not lead the team in free throw attempts or charges drawn. Your excuse that somehow Manu got calls that the youngsters weren't getting doesn't pass the eye-test either. They were settling for jump shots when Manu was running like a bull to the basket. Running back to stop the fastbreak. Yes the GSW had more talent on the court, but Manu didn't care - some of the other guys were playing defeated or padding empty stats on the offensive side while showing less hustle on the defensive side... playing carelessly at times, not valuing each playoff possession. I still believe that if the Spurs would've won Game 3, Kawhi would've been allowed to suit up for Game 4. It was a winnable game and plays like the play I described in my previous post stood out as game changing. We kept giving them momentum every time they let the GSW out-hustle them on their home court, every time they had a mental lapse, every time we refused to match their physicality. The Spurs were bullied and collectively cowered. Ginobili, despite his many limitations refused to do so.

    Again, I wanted every Spur on the court to perform well. And the only one who was really ticking me off was LMA. Due to his unwillingness to get physical, to show any signs of courage in the face of adversity - he was sulking and it was visible enough for everyone to see. The flip side of the argument was watching Ginobili up his relentlessness. Yes, Manu mightily struggled with his shot against the Grizzlies and against the Rockets - especially from the outside. The reality of his time on the court however was that he still contributed with assists, rebounding, steals and with hustle. Manu was being a pest even while his shot was broken. Also, given his exaggerated rep around here, he only had 12 turnovers across 15 playoff games. Lastly, despite his scoring struggles, Manu was only 8th in minutes played against the Grizz and 7th in minutes played against the Rockets. His presence wasn't holding anyone back but his contributions were still needed.
    I respect that you are fan and will have your subjective view about your hero. Manu did compete... I never said he didn't, but he wasn't the only one. I will stop it here bc it's not leading anywhere to keep stating the same thing. This subject came out of a troll thread by the way. will he average more than 5 ppg. I think he will bc his 3 pt shot has been solid. It also depends how often he's playing and how many minutes, and whether others are picking up their play or not. As you said, Manu's value is not just scoring at this point. He won't score much if he doesn't have to. I am not the kind of fan who only values the PPG ... would I be a KA fan if that was all that mattered to me? No.
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    7ppg

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    He could average 0.5 ppg and shoot t shirts into the crowd for all I care. As long as he's there.

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    He could average 0.5 ppg and shoot t shirts into the crowd for all I care. As long as he's there.
    jajaj, this

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    Ginoboner.

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    He could average 0.5 ppg and shoot t shirts into the crowd for all I care. As long as he's there.
    This! Maybe shoot bats out of the air with the t shirt gun!?

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    Nice. Manu averaging over 5 PPG will be the key determining factor whether the Spurs win the le next year.

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