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    you've been trying to have it both ways ever since you posted your LARP hedge.

    Do you think this is what your /pol post was talking about?

    Yes or no.
    I must have missed your yes or no answer.

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    You don't answer and then expect an answer. Who really has the bigger wall?

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    You don't answer and then expect an answer. Who really has the bigger wall?
    You missed my answer. Doesn't mean I didn't answer.

    Watching you waffle so much over this is completely entertaining. You really, really want it to be the REMEMBER REMEMBER NOON BOOM, don't you?

    I'm going to make fun of this for awhile. You may call scoreboard if this circa story turns out to be the REMEMBER REMEMBER NOON BOOM. Until then, I will accept your stonewalling for what it is.

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    You missed my answer. Doesn't mean I didn't answer.

    Watching you waffle so much over this is completely entertaining. You really, really want it to be the REMEMBER REMEMBER NOON BOOM, don't you?

    I'm going to make fun of this for awhile. You may call scoreboard if this circa story turns out to be the REMEMBER REMEMBER NOON BOOM. Until then, I will accept your stonewalling for what it is.
    I won't be calling scoreboard on a 4chan post, but you'll most definitely be putting a sticky note on the page of your July 27th ST notebook page.

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    I won't be calling scoreboard on a 4chan post, but you'll most definitely be putting a sticky note on the page of your July 27th ST notebook page.
    No need for any notebook. I will REMEMBER REMEMBER all on my own.

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    Holy . You know the administration done ed up when the NYPost is making front page fun of them.

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    shoulda shown er behind the bushes instead of kushner

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    shoulda shown er behind the bushes instead of kushner
    er got out at precisely the right time. Should really go on Dancing with the Stars.

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    The Top Intel Democrat Just Accused Trey Gowdy Of Protecting Kushner During Private House Hearing


    “Mr. Gowdy took the role as a second attorney for Mr. Kushner,” a frustrated Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) told reporters, according toBloomberg News.

    “When Kushner and lawmakers emerged from the meeting,” reported Bloomberg, “Democrats said Gowdy ran interference on behalf of Kushner during the questioning.”

    “Himes said Gowdy repeatedly complained that Democrats’ questions were repe ive and sought to block follow-up inquiries.”


    What a difference from 2016, when Gowdy led a Republican-driven, highly political probe into Hillary Clinton’s handling of the tragic Benghazi terrorist attacks.

    At one hearing, Gowdy pounded Clinton for 11 hours worth of questions, many of them repe ive, about her response to the 2012 attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya.


    In that case, Clinton spoke in public and answered all questions. That didn’t stop Gowdy from repeatedly calling for Secretary Clinton to be prosecuted during the 2016 campaign.


    With Kushner, by contrast, and Republicans calling the shots, the hearing behind closed doors was done in the most secretive way possible.

    Frustrated Democrats were left with lots of questions and a number of leads to follow.

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07...house-hearing/



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    If you can't take it, do not dish it.

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    If you can't take it, do not dish it.
    We'll see if Trump can take it.

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    We'll see if Trump can take it.
    Absolutely.

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    We'll see if Trump can take it.
    If his short history as leader is any guide, he'll take it right in the ass.

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    oh he'll take it and swallow it.

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    Your move, Putin'spet.
    But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

    The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

    Fact 1:
    Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

    Fact 2:
    Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

    Fact 3:
    Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

    Fact 4:
    Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

    Fact 5:
    Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

    Theory:
    Donald Trump has been compromised in some way. Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about.

    This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

    Prediction:
    Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


    The way to falsify the theory:
    1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
    2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

    Bull conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

    Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia
    .

    He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

    If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.
    Here comes the test.

    Prediction:
    Trump will veto, or actively attempt to undermine the sanctions in any way he can.

    Russians have already threatened to retaliate.

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    Here comes the test.

    Prediction:
    Trump will veto, or actively attempt to undermine the sanctions in any way he can.

    Russians have already threatened to retaliate.
    try to keep up, TB highly recommends RSS

    Pootin kicked out 100s of US diplomats, seized US facilities

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    shoulda shown er behind the bushes instead of kushner


    or better yet, get the totebag. Yes, this is a something you can actually buy (Picture of er with a bush)
    https://www.redbubble.com/people/fun...f&rel=carousel

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    Disappointed with Gowdy's haircut. It's usually much more flamboyant.

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    A Former Putin Ally Just Testified That Putin Orchestrated Trump Jr. Secret Meeting

    testimony of William “Bill” Browder, who has made it his mission in life to expose the gross corruption in Russia that leads directly to President Vladimir Putin.

    testified about the real purpose of the June 2016 meeting attended by Donald Jr., Manafort, and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner at Trump Tower in New York City.

    “Is there any doubt in your mind, knowing as well as any American how Vladimir Putin operates, that Natalia Veselnitskaya was there acting on behalf of Vladimir Putin and the Russian government?”
    “There is no doubt,” answered Browder, adding that he is also sure that Rinat Akhmetshin, a Russian-American lobbyist, was also there on behalf of the Russian government.

    In the emails sent to Donald Jr., which he released to the public, it is made explicitly clear that the Russians were acting on behalf of Putin’s regime, making the attendance of the three Americans an immediate violation of the law since they did not report it or clear it in advance.

    In the emails sent to Donald Jr., which he released to the public, it is made explicitly clear that the Russians were acting on behalf of Putin’s regime, making the attendance of the three Americans an immediate violation of the law since they did not report it or clear it in advance.


    “These two individuals,” asked Blumenthal, “Veselnitskaya and Akhmetshin, were acting on behalf of Vladimir Putin in initiating a potential agreement, legally probably a conspiracy, involving the Russian government and Donald Trump Jr., and the other participants in that meeting, correct?”

    “That was the intention of the Russians,” responded Browder, adding that the attendance of the two Russians meant that “the Russian government and Vladimir Putin were in effect coming to this meeting.”

    The meeting was part of a larger, well-funded, very intense campaign by the Russian government to get Congress to repeal the Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act – known simply as the Magnitsky Act – passed in 2012 and signed into law by President Obama.

    The act allows the American government to order funds in U.S. banks that belong to Russians, including Putin, to be frozen if it is proven they have been involved in serious human rights abuses.


    There is no money in Russia for the sick, HIV positive, or mentally disabled, so forcing them to stay there was a death sentence, testified Browder. “In practical terms, this meant that Vladimir Putin sentenced his own, most vulnerable and sick Russian orphans to death in order to protect corrupt officials in his regime.”

    “The Magnitsky Act created real consequences outside of Russia,” added Browder, “and this created a real problem for Putin and his system of kleptocracy.”


    The main purpose of that meeting, Browder believes, was to see how willing the Trump campaign would be to cooperate with the Russian effort to repeal The Magnitsky Act. The Russians were there on the direct orders of the general prosecutor of Russia, acting on behalf of Putin.

    If Trump was cooperative, Putin was ready to use all means, legal and illegal, to sway the election in his direction – which is exactly what happened.

    Browder at first thought Putin would be an ally against rich Russians who were stealing from everyone, the people, and government, but then he discovered a deal had been made which gave Putin half of all the ill gotten gains – money that went to him personally.

    Browder believes most of his $230 million went to Putin, whom he estimates has personal assets and cash holdings of over $200 billion.

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/27/former-putin-ally-just-testified-putin-orchestrated-trump-jr-secret-meeting/


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    A New USA Today Report On Russia Investigation Just Spelled Disaster For Trump



    Under his mandate, Mueller can follow the story, and the money trail, where ever the investigation takes him, and increasingly that appears to be into the complex business dealings, especially real estate sales.


    “Experts say,” reports USA Today, “Mueller’s move to follow the money has the potential to expose Trump, his family and his associates to legal troubles that go beyond election-year collusion with the Russians.”

    “It opens the door,” adds the report, “to revelations of any business-related malfeasance discovered during Meuller’s look at Trump’s business network.”

    the actual agreement written by Rod Rosenstein establishing the special counsel investigation is quite broad. It says that he s authorized to looking into any lines with Russia as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”

    Jack Blum, a former Senate staff lawyer not a Washington attorney specializing in white collar crime, told USA Today that Muller has to look at all kinds of financial transactions to see if there is a flow of money, and figure out where it is going and why.
    Blum said, “real estate records and corporation records are likely to be of special interest to investigators, and likely would be more revealing than tax returns.”

    “You can’t really tackle the broader problems of corruption or crime without also being able to follow the money and get at the financing of those activities,” Mark Hays, an investigator for the nonprofit watchdog group Global Witness,

    Real estate deals are ripe for corruption because a lot of the sales, especially to wealthy foreigners, can be made through corporate s s that make it virtually impossible to know who is really buying the property.


    USA Today did an investigation last month which showed 70 percent of Trump Organization real estate sales since Donald Trump became president were done through s companies, compared to only four percent before he took office.

    “The clear shift to those kinds of purchases,” reports USA Today, “which helps obscure the iden ies of the buyers, raise questions about the source of profits that ultimately flow to the President because he has not fully divested from his companies.”

    “The law of conspiracy reaches pretty far and every person in the conspiracy doesn’t necessarily have to be clued in to all the details,” explained Tobon, speaking about money laundering in general. “So legally you’re exposed in these transactions if you don’t take that extra step of asking who is the person behind (the s company).”

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07...isaster-trump/

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