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    Showing loyalty to a player is a great marketing tool to free agents for a small-market team. Pau did the Spurs a favor, so they paid it back. They did it in a manner which favors the player, and it's a smart move for the future.

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    I tried to be the voice of reason and tell everyone to pump the brakes on making judgement on PATFO....

    But I guess I'm just a cliche, vanilla, homer fan who had a ty podcast
    Ive also said the same, but still cant stand gasol

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    I tried to be the voice of reason and tell everyone to pump the brakes on making judgement on PATFO....

    But I guess I'm just a cliche, vanilla, homer fan who had a ty podcast
    So now DPG has said that he's found out the 3rd year is guaranteed. Man, you keep making yourself look worse and worse. I want to like you, but you and your sources are about as worthless as the Spurs FO right about now. You just keep getting stuff wrong.

    I don't know what you're trying to spin. The contract was very bad even if the 3rd year wasn't guaranteed, but if he does have guaranteed money in the 3rd year, it's back to being a horrendous contract. I was looking forward to Pau coming off the books next year. Now we got two more off-season's of this with a possible 3rd one.

    Question to anyone that might know, if Pau somehow plays decent the next two seasons up to that 3rd year, can the Spurs still keep him, but only pay him the 6.7M, or do they have to pay the full amount if they want to keep him for year 3?

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    So now DPG has said that he's found out the 3rd year is guaranteed. Man, you keep making yourself look worse and worse. I want to like you, but you and your sources are about as worthless as the Spurs FO right about now. You just keep getting stuff wrong.

    I don't know what you're trying to spin. The contract was very bad even if the 3rd year wasn't guaranteed, but if he does have guaranteed money in the 3rd year, it's back to being a horrendous contract. I was looking forward to Pau coming off the books next year. Now we got two more off-season's of this with a possible 3rd one.

    Question to anyone that might know, if Pau somehow plays decent the next two seasons up to that 3rd year, can the Spurs still keep him, but only pay him the 6.7M, or do they have to pay the full amount if they want to keep him for year 3?


    I never cited sources regarding this..I just tried to give the voice of reason on waiting for more information or moves before you judge or criticize PATFO....

    But I also found it funny how some posters tune changed once more information leaked

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    What is the benefit of Gasol accepting that 3rd year fully non guaranteed? It is almost 100% likely that it does not get accepted before the cut off.

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    If true, this is not bad at all. I'd argue even good since this comes at a time when the cap space environment is tightening. All the sudden the Spurs have a nice little trade asset for a team, two years from now (Spurs included), that want to open up space nearly 17 in space.
    Definitely, plus he is still a serviceable player despite what is said on this board.

    I don't think people remember how the Lakers and Celtics post 2007 built there teams. They traded short term bad contracts for longer term good to great players (Pau, KG etc.) With the cap tightening teams will be willing to unload long term contracts.

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    Burning Demon, Boban, Simmons (still don't believe he was asking for 50, could just be PR spin by Pops San Antonio media cucks)
    ...while rewarding
    Gasol
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    I bet you Gasol, Parker and Mills will have more win shares over the rest of their careers despite their age than the guys you mentioned. They're all actually ... good basketball players, while the three you brought up rely on size/athleticism (Simmons had some flashes of skill). Once the athleticism goes, it's game over.

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    Showing loyalty to a player is a great marketing tool to free agents for a small-market team. Pau did the Spurs a favor, so they paid it back. They did it in a manner which favors the player, and it's a smart move for the future.
    Loyalty? Get the out of here. He's been here a year

    I seriously doubt free agents will have Pau Gasol in their minds when thinking about coming here. If anything stars will be turned off by the front office handing out these ridiculous contracts to scrubs and old s

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    Loyalty? Get the out of here. He's been here a year

    I seriously doubt free agents will have Pau Gasol in their minds when thinking about coming here. If anything stars will be turned off by the front office handing out these ridiculous contracts to scrubs and old s
    But He a spanis

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    PATFO fluffers continue to look like bath water drinking gots as per par. Lol @ at those of you that brought the pom poms out when the fake news came out that his 3rd year was full non-guaranteed.

    This contract is horrendous no matter how hard you spin on your helmets.

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    "He eat de corn flays for brickfest liek mi"

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    Loyalty? Get the out of here. He's been here a year

    I seriously doubt free agents will have Pau Gasol in their minds when thinking about coming here. If anything stars will be turned off by the front office handing out these ridiculous contracts to scrubs and old s
    Star Player : So...tell me why I should come play for you?

    got a great system and you can play along side Kawhi

    Star Player : nice...who else

    well, we have Parker, Gasol, and Mills locked up for several years

    Star Player: .....

    did I mention the great system...and Leonard?

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    Star Player : So...tell me why I should come play for you?

    got a great system and you can play along side Kawhi

    Star Player : nice...who else

    well, we have Parker, Gasol, and Mills locked up for several years

    Star Player: .....

    did I mention the great system...and Leonard?
    You know, the NASA space center is only a couple of hours away from here.

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    Loyalty? Get the out of here. He's been here a year

    I seriously doubt free agents will have Pau Gasol in their minds when thinking about coming here. If anything stars will be turned off by the front office handing out these ridiculous contracts to scrubs and old s
    LOL, exactly. Free agents (young ones especially) will be turned off seeing the Spurs not playing young players (Murray) while also kicking others to the curb (Simmons) and low-ball them while overpaying for veterans and scrubs. That wouldn't look too enticing to any young player/s.

    I doubt any young players would even be interested in the Spurs these days.

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    LOL, exactly. Free agents (young ones especially) will be turned off seeing the Spurs not playing young players (Murray) while also kicking others to the curb (Simmons) and low-ball them while overpaying for veterans and scrubs. That wouldn't look too enticing to any young player/s.

    I doubt any young players would even be interested in the Spurs these days.
    Did they really kick Simmons to the curb tho?

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    LOL, exactly. Free agents (young ones especially) will be turned off seeing the Spurs not playing young players (Murray) while also kicking others to the curb (Simmons) and low-ball them while overpaying for veterans and scrubs. That wouldn't look too enticing to any young player/s.

    I doubt any young players would even be interested in the Spurs these days.
    Truth bomb.

    The only reason a young free agent would think of Gasol and all the other old s and scrubs on this team would be because they've taken up all the cap space. Gasol & Mills getting $98M. Parker, Manure, Fathead and Green's incoming "loyalty" contracts... that's not even counting Kawhi's possible (and well-deserved) super Max contract.

    It's funny how all these players that the fluffers call "loyal" would leave in a second had PATFO not overpaid them. That includes Ginobili, who was Philly bound until he was shown the money truck

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    [QUOTE=Ice009;9106291]LOL, exactly. Free agents (young ones especially) will be turned off seeing the Spurs not playing young players (Murray) while also kicking others to the curb (Simmons) and low


    Murray had a groin injury that cost him a ton of playing time. Plus, he mostly sucks except for 2 or 3 games.

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    Murray had a groin injury that cost him a ton of playing time. Plus, he mostly sucks except for 2 or 3 games.
    I think people only remember the game vs Cleveland or something where he played probably his best game as a Spur. He def has a ways to go, hopefully he shows some improvements this season.

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    I referred to Murray because he had a stretch of good games well before getting injured and then for no reason he was benched. I still don't understand why. Why was he not given more of a chance after starting a few games and playing well. It's ing bull if you ask me.

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    I referred to Murray because he had a stretch of good games well before getting injured and then for no reason he was benched. I still don't understand why. Why was he not given more of a chance after starting a few games and playing well. It's ing bull if you ask me.
    he acts a little too black for my taste

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    THE BLACK RAICIST POST

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    THE BLACK RAICIST POST
    my bad. He acts a little too black for my taste (no racist).

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    LOL, exactly. Free agents (young ones especially) will be turned off seeing the Spurs not playing young players (Murray) while also kicking others to the curb (Simmons) and low-ball them while overpaying for veterans and scrubs. That wouldn't look too enticing to any young player/s.

    I doubt any young players would even be interested in the Spurs these days.
    Yeah, making the WCF must not be appealing to FAs. Nor is developing from nothing and getting paid handsomely by another team. Heck, Patty is a great example of exactly what you say the Spurs DON'T do (as is Danny). Came over as late picks/undrafted and flourished. Both got taken care of by the Spurs.

    Simmons wasn't kicked to the curb. He was actually bad all year and had to play when the team was in a pinch. He got his shot from the Spurs - not the other 29 teams - and is now being paid by another team. I'd way rather have Manu back for another year than overpay Simmons. Simmons on his Orlando deal is fine, but not on the deal he asked the Spurs for.

    How many other teams are giving young players that were not lottery picks serious playing time while not being horrible?

    Maybe think before you speak for once.


    I referred to Murray because he had a stretch of good games well before getting injured and then for no reason he was benched. I still don't understand why. Why was he not given more of a chance after starting a few games and playing well. It's ing bull if you ask me.
    Maybe he took a while to fully recover? He's also extremely young, and need to take it slow. Not every 19 year old is Lebron physically. Also, he did kind of suck in summer league and couldn't bring the ball up the court vs. Houston.

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    Maybe he took a while to fully recover? He's also extremely young, and need to take it slow. Not every 19 year old is Lebron physically. Also, he did kind of suck in summer league and couldn't bring the ball up the court vs. Houston.[/FONT]
    What are you referring to here?

    I'm talking about months before Murray got injured. He started a few games and played well. I don't remember him getting an injury at that point. Parker came back and he was benched without any court time. I don't see a good reason for it. His confidence was sky high at that point. I don't feel there was any reason to bench him and not give him court time to see what he could do. If he failed, then he would have been humbled and could have worked on what he needed to improve on.

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