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    Hey guys, we got a graph!!!

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    Furthermore, a lot of the players that died seemed to be Africans, who are at a much higher risk of the congenital heart disease than other populations.

    Africa has one of the highest prevalence of heart diseases in children and young adults, including congenital heart disease (CHD) and rheumatic heart disease (RHD).
    And I really don't care about soccer players from the early 1900s dying from tetanus. That has nothing to do with the "demands" of soccer. Everything to do with shoddy medicine.

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    How stupid do you have to be to realize that the point of discussion isn't "dying while playing=better athlete" but rather "dying while playing=more demanding sport"? You have to be DMC stupid, or at least have DMC levels of goal posting.
    You're ing re ed, officially. If players are dying during workouts, they aren't being hydrated, monitored, screened properly. That's a product of being in a 3rd world country. I heard plane rides are a real on them as well.

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    Sure it does, there are other 1st world countries where people flee to come here, then there are 3rd world countries like yours, where we have to construct a wall to keep you playing povertyball in the desert.
    And what exactly did your fat ass do to make the USA such a great country? Lol at acting like you being born into the country was anything more than pure luck.

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    You're ing re ed, officially. If players are dying during workouts, they aren't being hydrated, monitored, screened properly. That's a product of being in a 3rd world country. I heard plane rides are a real on them as well.
    Sure it does son. All those English and Germam cities where folks died scream third World country.

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    You conveniently forget the part about it being pretty much non-stop. Do something as simple as jumping jacks for a prolonged amount of time and see if suddenly it doesn't become a little harder.

    I mean sure, if soccer players got to stand around scratching their jockstraps or sat on the benches for long periods like fatball players do then maybe you could use pounds of force as the basis of your argument. They don't though. They have to battle through fatigue like real athletes do. Do fatball players other than pitchers even experience fatigue?
    "I've never been more exhausted in my life."

    - Michael Jordan, midway through the minor league baseball season.

    "This sport is much more mentally demanding than basketball. Much more."

    - Michael Jordan

    Your favorite sport (the actual fatball) really doesn't place a lot cardio demands on you, either. There's none on the QB that could be considered straining. And QB is probably the hardest position in sports. So the fatigue argument is pretty weak.

    Bolt also doesn't have to battle through fatigue. One 10 second race per day and he's done. But you celebrate that as a "sport" (even though it violates your wiki definition of what a sport is).

    Furthermore, mental fatigue>>>physical fatigue.

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    And what exactly did your fat ass do to make the USA such a great country? Lol at acting like you being born into the country was anything more than pure luck.
    I stood post in the military. How about you Pedro?

    You think I was lucky to be born here, you're right. I'm lucky I wasn't born in Mexico. The rest was up to me.

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    "I've never been more exhausted in my life."

    - Michael Jordan, midway through the minor league baseball season.

    "This sport is much more mentally demanding than basketball. Much more."

    - Michael Jordan

    Your favorite sport (the actual fatball) really doesn't place a lot cardio demands on you, either. There's none on the QB that could be considered straining. And QB is probably the hardest position in sports. So the fatigue argument is pretty weak.

    Bolt also doesn't have to battle through fatigue. One 10 second race per day and he's done. But you celebrate that as a "sport" (even though it violates your wiki definition of what a sport is).

    Furthermore, mental fatigue>>>physical fatigue.
    What soccer player crossed over sports into any other major league?

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    Whatever you say son, but those folks wouldn't have died while playing baseball. Simple as that. Nice touch with the shift of focus from deaths to injuries though.
    They probably would've if their condition went undiagnosed. You can drop dead from a congenital defect at ANY time.

    Injuries reveal "physical demand," do they not?

    And yes, blowing out your arm, breaking your ankle on the basepaths, getting your skull fractured by the ball all happen with some regularity. Baseball seems to have a higher injury rate than basketball, as well.

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    What soccer player crossed over sports into any other major league?
    They sometimes go to the NFL as kickers, which can further reveal the "demands" of FKLA's favorite sport: Obeseball.

    (I like football, just calling out LA's suspect logic and arguments).

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    Exactly, but you see prime all time athletes like Bo Jackson and Deionized Sanders go from football to baseball because they are ing beast athletes and have hand/eye coordination and skills off the charts.

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    I stood post in the military. How about you Pedro?

    You think I was lucky to be born here, you're right. I'm lucky I wasn't born in Mexico. The rest was up to me.
    No no, I'm saying the USA was a great country long before you were around. Don't stick your little fat chest out while you call other countries 3rd world and talk about building walls as if it was anything other than pure luck that you were born into the US.

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    Exactly, but you see prime all time athletes like Bo Jackson and Deionized Sanders go from football to baseball because they are ing beast athletes and have hand/eye coordination and skills off the charts.
    They sometimes go to the NFL as kickers, which can further reveal the "demands" of FKLA's favorite (the) sport: Obeseball.

    (I like football, just calling out LA's suspect logic and arguments).
    You wouldn't be helping midnightpulp's case son.

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    No no, I'm saying the USA was a great country long before you were around. Don't stick your little fat chest out while you call other countries 3rd world and talk about building walls as if it was anything other than pure luck that you were born into the US.
    Pure luck if you win the lottery. Still putting it in a vault. You act like Mexico is a hole without the Mexicans. It's a paradise without them. Or that the US is great even without the Americans, but it's no different than Mexico from a pure land perspective. Sure, our forefathers built this place, never said otherwise. Plus, I am native American, been here a minute.

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    You wouldn't be helping midnightpulp's case son.
    Why? Neither Sanders nor Jackson were kickers. I have no idea what crazy ing angle you're taking here.

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    Why? Neither Sanders nor Jackson were kickers. I have no idea what crazy ing angle you're taking here.
    Think it through son. I'm sure you will get it at some point.

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    Think it through son. I'm sure you will get it.
    No I don't.

    Taking your best athletes and they can only be kickers in the NFL, then taking baseball's best and they are stars in the NFL... sizable difference there.

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    You wouldn't be helping midnightpulp's case son.
    Why not?

    Where do you get this idea that "failed athletes" in other sports go to baseball? Or even that Bo Jackson was a football player who played baseball?

    Bo Jackson's first sport was baseball. Football was his hobby, as shown by him going to the Raiders only AFTER baseball ended. Deion Sanders was a dual sport athlete from day 1. He didn't play 2 or 3 years in the NFL and then say, "Hey. I like baseball. I think I'm gonna try it!"

    And Tebow.

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    "I've never been more exhausted in my life."

    - Michael Jordan, midway through the minor league baseball season.

    "This sport is much more mentally demanding than basketball. Much more."

    - Michael Jordan

    Your favorite sport (the actual fatball) really doesn't place a lot cardio demands on you, either. There's none on the QB that could be considered straining. And QB is probably the hardest position in sports. So the fatigue argument is pretty weak.

    Bolt also doesn't have to battle through fatigue. One 10 second race per day and he's done. But you celebrate that as a "sport" (even though it violates your wiki definition of what a sport is).

    Furthermore, mental fatigue>>>physical fatigue.
    Jordan sucked at baseball. Of course it's going to be harder on him mentally than a sport that he ruled over. Physically, I really doubt striking out a few times per game took more out of him than playing a 40 minutes in a playoff game.

    Also are you implying physical fatigue doesn't also lead to mental fatigue? A big part of endurance is mental.

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    Why not?

    Where do you get this idea that "failed athletes" in other sports go to baseball? Or even that Bo Jackson was a football player who played baseball?

    Bo Jackson's first sport was baseball. Football was his hobby, as shown by him going to the Raiders only AFTER baseball ended. Deion Sanders was a dual sport athlete from day 1. He didn't play 2 or 3 years in the NFL and then say, "Hey. I like baseball. I think I'm gonna try it!"

    And Tebow.
    Don't look at me son. DMC is the one that said "from football to baseball", tbh.

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    Jordan sucked at baseball. Of course it's going to be harder on him mentally than a sport that he ruled over. Physically, I really doubt striking out a few times per game took more out of him than playing a 40 minutes in a playoff game.

    Also are you implying physical fatigue doesn't also lead to mental fatigue? A big part of endurance is mental.
    Of course not. But baseball's mental demands are greater than the other big sports. In basektball, football, etc, you'll never see a star player go through a month or two long month slump. Aaron Judge, who was on his way to the MVP over the first half, is batting like .175 over the last month and has struck out 21 straight times. You would never, ever see Lebron go a month shooting 30% from the field. If his jump shot isn't failing, he can simply "athletic" his way to production by driving. You can't out "athletic" baseball. There's no pure physical recourse to go to for a slumping player.

    It's also why basketball prospects (and soccer prospects) can be pro ready at 18 and 16-17 years old. A great prospect might be ready at 23, after 5 years in the minors. What's that tell you about the "demands" of the sport?

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    Don't look at me son. DMC is the one that said "from football to baseball", tbh.
    These two played both sports at the same time. Sanders was a superbowl champ the same year he won the pennant (I think). Bo Jackson was a slugger, and one of a freight train as Bosworth found out during his ushering out moment.

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    Jordan sucked at baseball. Of course it's going to be harder on him mentally than a sport that he ruled over. Physically, I really doubt striking out a few times per game took more out of him than playing a 40 minutes in a playoff game.

    Also are you implying physical fatigue doesn't also lead to mental fatigue? A big part of endurance is mental.
    You think defense in baseball is just standing around scratching your nuts? You ever played anything outside of softball? Ever play infield?

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    Of course not. But baseball's mental demands are greater than the other big sports. In basektball, football, etc, you'll never see a star player go through a month or two long month slump. Aaron Judge, who was on his way to the MVP over the first half, is batting like .175 over the last month and has struck out 21 straight times. You would never, ever see Lebron go a month shooting 30% from the field. If his jump shot isn't failing, he can simply "athletic" his way to production by driving. You can't out "athletic" baseball. There's no pure physical recourse to go to for a slumping player.

    It's also why basketball prospects (and soccer prospects) can be pro ready at 18 and 16-17 years old. A great prospect might be ready at 23, after 5 years in the minors. What's that tell you about the "demands" of the sport?
    More on this point. Baseball's Lebron:



    And we probably won't see him in the MLB for 3 or 4 years outside of maybe a single game "hype" call up late in the season (next year).

    Lebron was 20, 6, 6 right out of the gate. By 20, he was an MVP candidate.

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    Real talk, how much (harder) is it for a fatball player to walk 10 steps? I don't doubt for a second that a it's "harder" for a lardball player to ride his scooter down the aisle for another cheesepuff run

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