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    The difference being of course what is lied about.

    Clinton got nailed for lying about a blow job.

    What will Trump be nailed lying about DarrinS?
    His wife & daughter right up the hallway.

    Big shot.

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    GOWDY GOWDY GOWDY

    Gowdy votes for the appointment of a second special counsel to investigate Comey, Lynch, Hillary…



    I haven't seen that blatant a closet in Washington ever.

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    Interesting bits of information.

    If I, and some ex-CIA types have independently reached this conclusion, that same conclusion must be being reached within the intelligence community.

    Trump berating them in front of a wall of stars for those killed in service likely did not endear him to them. Those that might know, or be able to find out something, will not remain on the sidelines, I would think.

    This would suggest to me that Mueller will be getting no small amount of unofficial, back channel help in digging from those in the intelligence community who have reached this conclusion.

    People will likely be VERY careful in not breaking laws to help, but these people will be effectively standing in front of the right rocks that need turning over whistling and shuffling their feet.

    Mueller is going to know exactly where to look, and this help will be a force multiplier.

    If Trump has, as I suspect, laundered money in some way, that will almost certainly find its way to light. We can expect Trump to get increasingly desperate as the investigation starts touching on this. THere is a very real chance he could be jailed, if so, and I can't see anyone giving this asshole a pardon.

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    I haven't seen that blatant a closet in Washington ever.
    Reminds me of the kid playing banjo opposite Ronnie Cox in Deliverance

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    Interesting bits of information.

    If I, and some ex-CIA types have independently reached this conclusion, that same conclusion must be being reached within the intelligence community.

    Trump berating them in front of a wall of stars for those killed in service likely did not endear him to them. Those that might know, or be able to find out something, will not remain on the sidelines, I would think.

    This would suggest to me that Mueller will be getting no small amount of unofficial, back channel help in digging from those in the intelligence community who have reached this conclusion.

    People will likely be VERY careful in not breaking laws to help, but these people will be effectively standing in front of the right rocks that need turning over whistling and shuffling their feet.

    Mueller is going to know exactly where to look, and this help will be a force multiplier.

    If Trump has, as I suspect, laundered money in some way, that will almost certainly find its way to light. We can expect Trump to get increasingly desperate as the investigation starts touching on this. THere is a very real chance he could be jailed, if so, and I can't see anyone giving this asshole a pardon.
    He mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.

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    I haven't seen that blatant a closet in Washington ever.
    I guess you were ignoring Barry and Michael the last 8 years. Gowdy is married with children, and it's hilarious that all the Left has is his hair

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    He mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.
    and commenced with the kneeling and "the begging"

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    Donald Trump is no Adolf Hitler.

    Hitler was smarter, and more charismatic.

    The kinds of people who follow him on the other hand, are part and parcel of the kinds of everyday Germans who just wanted someone to Make Germany Great Again. A lot of everyday Germans had to go along, even if they never pulled triggers on executions, to allow the truly evil things that the German government ended up doing.

    When it comes to the cult-like behavior that is what worries me. One of the primary methods of indoctrinating someone into a cult is to isolate information flows.

    The cult leader is the source of the ultimate truth, and everyone else is lying. Trumpists' have been taught to believe that Trump and his state-owned media network, Fox "news" are the only people really telling the truth. Anything that paints the Dear Leader in a bad like is fake.

    It works the same in any country, in any cult.

    The Trumpist movement bears a lot of the hallmarks of early Nazi-ism, especially when it comes to identifying an external enemy, "immigrants" and making "liberals" as not patriotic enough for wanting to keep them out.

    Where this analogy really breaks down is that Trump et al. are just too incompetent to carry out any kind of pogrom, and there is more than a few decent people who will not go quietly.


    Bash the fash!


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    I guess you were ignoring Barry and Michael the last 8 years. Gowdy is married with children, and it's hilarious that all the Left has is his hair
    somebody's got a crush!

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    Wow.

    That would be delicious. Seeing Fox "news" talking heads being fired for being dupes for foreign intelligence. It would finish that ty network as a viable commercial enterprise once and for all.

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    somebody's got a crush!
    Gowdy 2024

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    (hands over ears) LA LA LA LA, I can't hear you"
    I guess we can add this to the list of things you do not wish to believe are true.

    Shocker.

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    First openly gay President I assume he's outed by then.

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    future donna trump book: "the art of the kneel"

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    He mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.

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    then he kneeled


    and begged.




    a mexican

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    Wow.

    That would be delicious. Seeing Fox "news" talking heads being fired for being dupes for foreign intelligence. It would finish that ty network as a viable commercial enterprise once and for all.
    John Schindler
    Louise Mensch
    Claude Taylor

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    "he says the words of one who kneels"

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    sorry frankie, your song ain't about him.

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    John Schindler
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    The Senate Just Took Action To Keep Trump From Interfering In Russia Probe Over Recess

    This afternoon, the Senate wrapped up their summer session with a final shot at President Trump.

    Senator Murkowski (R-AK), locked in just nine “pro-forma” sessions over the August recess, preventing the President from making recess appointments.

    Crucially, this blocks him from firing Attorney General Jeff Sessions and replacing him with an Attorney General who hasn’t recused himself from the investigation into the Russian interference in the 2016 election.
    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08...-probe-recess/

    A quiet vote of no-confidence for the Mad King Donald.

    Mind you, this was done by Republicans in Congress.

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    How important is it that Mueller has formed a grand jury? I asked 20 legal experts.

    Especially significant, according to Fordham law professor Jed Shugerman, is the fact that Mueller has requested a grand jury focused on Russia: “That commitment means that

    1) Mueller expects this new grand jury to be doing a lot of special work, and

    2) it will be reviewing classified material.”

    Eleven of the experts say this is an inevitable step in the process and therefore doesn’t tell us all that much.

    “The real news,” says Ric Simmons, a law professor at Ohio State University, “would be if Mueller had not eventually impaneled a grand jury.”


    Their full responses, lightly edited for clarity and style, are below.

    https://www.vox.com/2017/8/4/16092128/robert-mueller-donald-trump-russia-grand-jury



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    How important is it that Mueller has formed a grand jury? I asked 20 legal experts.

    Especially significant, according to Fordham law professor Jed Shugerman, is the fact that Mueller has requested a grand jury focused on Russia: “That commitment means that

    1) Mueller expects this new grand jury to be doing a lot of special work, and

    2) it will be reviewing classified material.”

    Eleven of the experts say this is an inevitable step in the process and therefore doesn’t tell us all that much.

    “The real news,” says Ric Simmons, a law professor at Ohio State University, “would be if Mueller had not eventually impaneled a grand jury.”


    Their full responses, lightly edited for clarity and style, are below.

    https://www.vox.com/2017/8/4/16092128/robert-mueller-donald-trump-russia-grand-jury


    1. The first bit of "news" is that any charges definitely go beyond Gen. Flynn. There was already a different grand jury, in a different place (Virginia), on that case. This DC grand jury is separate — that means the case has moved beyond Flynn, at the very least.
    That is another good point. It means there is enough smoke to pull out the fire extinguisher...

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