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    "Best 2-way player" is the new "best power forward ever"". Backhanded compliment.
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    If Kawhi played for the Knicks SAS would say he's "Box Office"

    SAS is a

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    He also thinks Kobe is better on the all time list than Lebron and is one of the worst judges of talent in the entire league. So there is that.
    Dad Killer promotes that b/c it's easy to prove he's better than Kobe in every meaningful metric. For what it's worth I don't think either are better than prime Larry Bird (or Tim Duncan); so, I don't give a .

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    He also thinks Kobe is better on the all time list than Lebron and is one of the worst judges of talent in the entire league. So there is that.
    Kobe is/was

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    Always good when the forum re s identify themselves.

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    Always good when the forum re s identify themselves.
    Guy is the village idiot. Pay him no mind.

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    Should translate to the best player of the game
    At least until the best three-way player comes along...

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    Is there video footage of Jordan saying this? I'd like to hear what he said.

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    Question is.......

    Who was the best two way player during Jordans time??

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    Question is.......

    Who was the best two way player during Jordans time??
    Jordan.

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    Is there video footage of Jordan saying this? I'd like to hear what he said.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...yer-in-the-nba

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    Question is.......

    Who was the best two way player during Jordans time??
    I would say Jordan. Him and Pippen are 1 and 2 tbh

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    He's the best player in the game...Best 2-way BS.
    Those are the same thing, though. The best 2-way player IS the best player.

    You might argue "why even say 2-way then?" Which is valid, but that doesn't mean "2-way" is less good, it's just being more specific. At least that's how I see it.

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    Guy is the village idiot. Pay him no mind.
    Lol. Lebron cemented his legacy when he quit the cavs the first time. If you dont understand that, which obviously you two dont, you probably shouldnt post

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    Those are the same thing, though. The best 2-way player IS the best player.

    You might argue "why even say 2-way then?" Which is valid, but that doesn't mean "2-way" is less good, it's just being more specific. At least that's how I see it.
    Its looking like many people see the same way though

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    there is no player that sets himself way above the pack. The top is wider than usual. The 4 that have a legitimate case are Kawhi, Lebron, Curry and Durant. Not very far are Harden and Westbrook. Meaning each of these 6 could be the MVP next year. Whenever Jordan was around, you already knew he was going to win. So the best 2 way player argument is just confusing a bit, but it means that he's the most balanced player among the top ones.

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    Kawhi is the best 2 way player.
    No debate. However, is he the best player? He is up there, but IMHO a bit below LeBron and maybe Durant.
    I think Zach Lowe summed it up
    The ability to manufacture shots, for yourself and your teammates, is the single most valuable skill in the NBA.....
    And then there is defense. It is not really half the game, even if you spend literally half the game on defense. At the superstar level, individual offense is more important than defense. And a wing defender can't impact every possession

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    I'm past tired of the term 2 way player

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    I'm past tired of the term 2 way player
    Just goes to show how "skilled" these nba players are when you have to coin phrases like that. Aau and ghetto ball created a one dimensional game of chucking, and teenage "fans" jumped on the media hype.

    Start drafting high iq players and then media darling lebum wont have to tell evryone how hugh his bbiq is... which isnt very

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    If the NBA allowed teams to plat defense then Leonard would be the best player in the NBA. World B Free would be all NBA in today's game.

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    If the NBA allowed teams to plat defense then Leonard would be the best player in the NBA. World B Free would be all NBA in today's game.
    Leonard is the best player in the nba even at tbis current form.

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    Elite level poster, tbh.


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    Leonard isn't the best player in the NBA. Setting these false narratives just serves to more easily devalue him later.

    He's never carried his team to a championship. He didn't get them over the hump against the Thunder, and though he played really well in the playoffs this year, he didn't finish. Health is a big part of "best player" accolades. It's a big reason why Lebron gets the nod still. Kawhi is probably 3rd or 4th, if you take him over AD, KD, Curry and Lebron, then sure. I'd take him over Curry, but I've not seen AD on a good team to know what he can do. I'd take KD over Leonard even though I like Leonard more. Chosing Lebron over Kawhi is a no brainer, even if just for the team you can put around him. Who's coming to play alongside Kawhi?

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    Leonard is the best player in the West and only second to Lebron. Better than Curry, Harden, and Durant. I am not sure how we have won 60 wins last season. Kevin Love is the third player for the Cavs and average more points and rebounds that LMA, who is our second best player. We got a little exited with Simmons, avg 6 points. And Dedmon avg 5 & 6.5rebs. He deserved MVP, but the media gave it to the stat stuffers. I know Pop and the coaching staff deserve credit, but our D wasn't as good as the season before. LMA and Parker regressed. Green remained the same. Gasol added something different but is no Duncan.

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