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No. We think Shaq and Pau were peachy.
Mr Clutch, aka Logo, lost 9 finals....but someone who lost 5 Finals is a Mt Rushmore player?
No. We think Shaq and Pau were peachy.
Wait; did Kobe play with Shaq or Antoine Walker (with all due respect to Toine)? Or are you just fan of making overly simplistic arguments?
We've gone thru this before. SMH
Those loaded Celtic teams were permanently intact. With no free agency, no way to poach Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cousy or Russell. So of course they kept winning.
Besides, Logo, at least to my recollection, was NEVER considered a Mt Rushmore player. Greatest Laker? Yes. My Rushmore? No. That's the difference between him and LeHype.
Kobe is overrated
Water is wet
Grass is green
Kool is a tranny-chasing got
Luva is a gay-cartoon watching got
Facts of life.
The he emoji movie is out, you ar definitely it's target.
Not sure how it works. Explain.
I don't question that either. I think Kobe is more accomplished but that was due to cir stances. Pierce and wade are similar players and they didn't have the teams Kobe did. Pierce could've won multiple championships with prime shaq or with the most loaded frontline (he won one and lost when a few key players got injured). These three are all mariginal championship winning caliber players. I think the three are interchangeable for the most part but would rank wade the lowest of the three.
^ ohhh does the baby feel better now....still have nightmares of Kobe ing yall down?
FACTS - Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom will not make the hall of fame....in fact they're not all star players. Pussy Gasol will barely and I mean barely make it. Don't forget he was literally like 0-19 in playoffs without Kobe. Meaning prior to the Lakers and when Kobe tore his achilles Pussy Gasol FAILED TO WIN A SINGLE GAME ON HIS OWNnow....how do you like dem apples boy.
Back to Back NO Shaq
That's not the point. The point is that the NBA logo, Jerry West, lost 9 finals and he's still considered one of the greatest players of all time. You have to make it to the finals to lose there. Sure Lebron has lost 5 times in the Finals - that's because he got his team there in the 1st place.
Do you think the 2007 Cavs should have won the Finals?
Should the Cavs have beaten the Warriors last year?
Cavs had to come back from a 3-1 deficit in 2016.
When has Lebron had a juggernaut team? San Antonio almost beat Miami in 2013 and trounced them in 2014.
Maybe you should re-examine the other faces of your basketball Rushmore as well.
you pussy boys are out of excuses
Back to Back No Shaq....Shaq never won a single thing prior to Kobe...and he had plenty of Chances....but unfortunately his ass was busy getting swept in Finals when he played with a another loaded team in Orlando....with Sir Penny Hardaway. Now that Kobe went back to back no Shaq it's prooof Shaq needed Kobe way more than Kobe needed Shaq. None of the guys you say could have replaced Kobe ever won a le on their own...let alone back to back.
Paul Pierce didn't win until he had 3 or 4 hall of fame players on his team and even then the only won 1 le
KG same thing as Pierce
T-Mac no rings
Marbury no rings
Nash no rings
Iverson no rings
Vince Carter no rings
Ray Allen same as Pierce and KG
Dirk one ring
Shaq 1 ring without Kobe
Duncan 5 rings but one on a locked out season (asterisk) and has NEVER NOT ONCE won back to back so all of his rings are suspect on some real tbh
I can single-handedly destroy every talking point and excuse you pussy boys come up with because you're butthurt
and LOL at poor ass Clippa Nation....that is thirsty ass ....going around sucking any superstars that he can find
Kobe post Pau: consistently missing the playoffs before being forced to retire^ ohhh does the baby feel better now....
FACTS - Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom will not make the hall of fame....in fact they're not all star players. Pussy Gasol will barely and I mean barely make it. Don't forget he was literally like 0-19 in playoffs without Kobe. Meaning prior to the Lakers and when Kobe tore his achilles Pussy Gasol FAILED TO WIN A SINGLE GAME ON HIS OWN
Pau post Kobe: 4 playoff series wins and still going
These are facts.
LOL just 4 series wins after Kobe.
Like when I started on this site...you boys still are no match for my knowledge of the game....yall some lame ass hoes to be honest.
If LeBron played in the Western Conference his whole career, how many Finals would he actually appear in? I say 1, tops. He'd have to go through the Lakers, Spurs, Blazers, Suns, and now the Dubs - annually. Not happening. So stop bragging about his 5 Finals appearances. Just say he made it out the lEast 5 times. That's more palatable for non-LeHype nut huggers.
Giving him credit for making out the least 5 times is like saying a married man bragging to his boys that his young bride let him hit it on their honeymoon. Isn't that what's supposed to happen?
We don't have the option to go to a parallel universe to see how things would play out. It's pointless to argue from hypothetical scenarios because they cannot be validated. Half the league is in the East. He made it out of the conference he was in. That's all any team ever did... ever. MJ was in the East his entire career as well.If LeBron played in the Western Conference his whole career, how many Finals would he actually appear in? I say 1, tops. He'd have to go through the Lakers, Spurs, Blazers, Suns, and now the Dubs - annually. Not happening. So stop bragging about his 5 Finals appearances. Just say he made it out the lEast 5 times. That's more palatable for non-LeHype nut huggers.
Giving him credit for making out the least 5 times is like saying a married man bragging to his boys that his young bride let him hit it on their honeymoon. Isn't that what's supposed to happen?
Why hasn't any other player made 7 consecutive Finals appearances in the modern era NBA? Why can't any other player from the East or West do that?
So now you comparing the East MJ played in to the one LeHype plays in right now?
You can only play who they put in front of you. He's beaten every team for 7 consecutive years, on two different teams with varied rosters. He got Cleveland their first and only ring, playing with two "stars" who couldn't get their teams to the playoffs in the East.So now you comparing the East MJ played in to the one LeHype plays in right now?
How good was the East that MJ beat them repeatedly? Revisionists abound on this forum.
He's not MJ level, but he's in the top 4 players all time.
Ifs and buts if cir stances were different don't carry any weight since they have no basis in fact. Players are judged on what they did, not what they might have been able to do if life had dealt them a better hand.
Kobe sealed the deal > Pierce and Wade when he went to the finals three times and won back to back with Gasol who had never won a playoff game.
Pierce had Garnett and Allen who were still at an all-star caliber at that stage of their careers and only managed one.
Wade had Bosh, who was equivalent to Gasol, and an all-time top 10 player in his prime, and got the same two that Kobe won when Wade had far more talent around him.
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No, he's not. He couldn't beat the Celtics so he colluded with the class of 2003. To have 3 of the best players in your draft class - it better lead to Finals appearances - especially in the East. He choked in 2011, got bailed out in 2012 by Battier, got bailed out again by Ray Allen in 2013, and was a Dr. Dray suspension away from being light another rang in 2015.
To put it into further context, LeHype lost to a Western Conference team 5 times in the Finals. Kobe, OTOH, beat the West 7 times and won it all 5 times. LeHype's proven nothing to me, no matter how youit.
The Celtics were colluding. You do what you have to do to win. He did.
You either win or you don't. All the little bull caveats in between are just fan yap.
But no one outside of Lakerbe@ners think Kobe is in the same conversation as Lebron and Mike.To put it into further context, LeHype lost to a Western Conference team 5 times in the Finals. Kobe, OTOH, beat the West 7 times and won it all 5 times. LeHype's proven nothing to me, no matter how you
No one objective thinks Wade and Pierce are in the same conversation as Kobe. Lebron still only has three. There's no way he can be compared to Jordan if Jordan ends up doubling his ring count.
Ohh with the except of MJ, Bird, Dr J, Kareem, Hakeem, Dominique Wilkens, Jerry West and most all the other all-time greats including every player of his
own generation and Lebron's generation it's clear you dont know what in the you're talking about....as for the Media and butt hurt coach potatoes such as yourself then you may have a point....but to those who played the game and actually know 95% of all players former and current pick Kobe....including DWade and Kyrie Irving who played with the shrimp ,...and you even got POP and Leonard sucking Kobe's asking him to train and work with Leonard
this was just last week....MJ reset this again....so yall need to shut the up on this....
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...t-lebron-james
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PS: I do find it Ironic that Magic, Tim Duncan, John Amechi, and Jason Collins all pick Lebron over Kobe...hmmmm wonder why?
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