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    So, you didn't really make any attempt.

    You have no evidence of intent. If you had you would present it.

    The do ent dump provided a giant nothingburger of PR people doing edits of press releases.

    Given that responses have to be timely, it is entirely possible whoever was doing this (as well as all the other FOIR's that come in) just couldn't get the information needed on a timely basis.

    I have dealt with various open-records open record requests. Trying to figure out who has the information, then get it, and get it back in time is not easy in a small bureaucracy, let alone a large one.

    Meh. It benefits you to say "they lied" because that sounds so much more sinister than "the got lost in the gears before he time limit ran out".

    Keep digging though. There were witnesses to the meeting. If it was obstruction, then we should know about it.

    Too bad you aren't as concerned about President "vroom vroom" Trumps money-laundering. But hey, everything is ok as long as they have the magic "R" behind their name...
    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?

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    https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/541586817

    Even more interesting:

    The organizations "VP of finance" Just happened to be the 50% owner of a law firm that this organization paid $5M to (roughly 25% of all 2015 "expenses").

    Hating on the gays and Obama is profitable, even if you are a non-profit.
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    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?
    Why are you not spending any effort on uncovering bad deeds by anyone with a magic "R" behind their names?

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    Why are you not spending any effort on uncovering bad deeds by anyone with a magic "R" behind their names?
    We are currently in a thread about Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting and you currently have an unanswered question.

    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ler/547917001/

    I wonder how upset the 4chan crowd would have been had Bill been communicating in any way with the special counsel investigating him.

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    We are currently in a thread about Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting and you currently have an unanswered question.

    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?
    I don't really care at this point.

    Call it "TSA fatigue". Chasing down your , only to find that behind every claim, is some bull exaggeration is tedious, especially when you seem to give a total pass to anybody with the magic "R" behind their name.

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    I don't really care at this point.

    Call it "TSA fatigue". Chasing down your , only to find that behind every claim, is some bull exaggeration is tedious, especially when you seem to give a total pass to anybody with the magic "R" behind their name.
    You don't care because there is a magic "D" behind their name. Sad.

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    You don't care because there is a magic "D" behind their name. Sad.
    Not what I said.

    I don't care because you posted it. After sifting through the wreckage of more than one of your claims that didn't pan out, I view the effort/benefit ratio as undesirable.

    Big difference.

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    Not what I said.

    I don't care because you posted it. After sifting through the wreckage of more than one of your claims that didn't pan out, I view the effort/benefit ratio as undesirable.

    Big difference.
    Loretta Lynch using an alias email account is not up for debate.


    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?

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    Loretta Lynch using an alias email account is not up for debate.
    Donald Trump's conflict of interest aren't up for debate.

    Yet that outright, up front, in your face corruption gets crickets.

    How much money do you think Trump should earn from the government while he is president?

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    Donald Trump's conflict of interest aren't up for debate.

    Yet that outright, up front, in your face corruption gets crickets.

    How much money do you think Trump should earn from the government while he is president?
    We are currently in a thread about Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting and you are dodging questions about the topic at hand and trying to shift focus to Trump.

    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?

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    We are currently in a thread about Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting and you are dodging questions about the topic at hand and trying to shift focus to Trump.

    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?

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    Did LL's alias say something to upset you assholes?

    Why isn't that otherwise-gifted banjo-player Trey "Three Balls" Gowdy investigating LL's sweet ass?

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    We are currently in a thread about Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting and you are dodging questions about the topic at hand and trying to shift focus to Trump.

    Why was Loretta Lynch using an alias email to discuss the tarmac meeting?
    Why are you lying about Comey?

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    whataboutism

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    First, the Comey FBI lied to us. Last July, we sent FOIA requests to both the Comey FBI and the Lynch DOJ asking for any do ents related to the Clinton Lynch plane meeting. The FBI, under the then directorship of James Comey, replied that “No records responsive to your request were located.”
    How have you, or the authors, proven that this is a deliberate lie, i.e. that someone knew records existed, and deliberately withheld it, as opposed to making a good faith effort and simply not finding anything?
    Appeal to Ridicule
    reductio ad ridiculum

    (also known as: appeal to mockery, the horse laugh)

    Description: Presenting the argument in such a way that makes the argument look ridiculous, usually by misrepresenting the argument or the use of exaggeration.
    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...al-to-Ridicule
    So you have no such proof. If you had, you would offer it. Since you didn't, you fell back on a flawed "argument".

    The entire premise of the thread is unproven. It failed in the very first sentence.

    The default position, the null hypothesis, is that Comey told the truth. They just didn't find anything the first time is a more likely explantion, until proven otherwise.

    The amount of effort expended for a FOIR is far less than that expended for a law suit or a court order.

    Not finding something the first time is fully consistant with the far more plausible explanation that the search simply didn't find anything after a good faith effort.

    The existance of emails found after a lawsuit is filed does not even come close to proving intent. The best evidence of intent to lie is direct statements, which you don't have.

    Any decent skeptic would subject this "Comey lied" claim to some modi of scruntiny. "What evidence is presented to support this", especially given that the source of the claim has every reason to exaggerate, given their hyper-partisan nature.

    The "they simply din't find anything first time around after looking" theory requires a lower standard of proof, since it is much more mundane, and occams razor would apply. This makes many fewer assumptions.

    Actively lying and decieving is a larger claim. It is a direct statement of intent to decieve. You have to have evidence showing this intent.

    You don't have that evidence.

    SO the only thing this thread really has "proven" is that you read something, posted it as fact, and didn't apply a basic level of skepticism to a claim that you already believe is true. Your ability to analyze information and realize how your own confirmation biases affect how you percieve things is weak.

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    Comey's people were telling him weeks or months before his summer trashing of Hillary, that they had found nothing to indict Hillary for, so he was circulating an exonerating memo to that effect, DECISION on Hillary MADE, well before Slick Willy and Lynch met on the tarmac.

    Repugs and Trash's base here on ST GOT NOTHING.

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