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    Not everybody. GOP rank and file genuinely believed this, because that is what Fox "news" told them to believe.

    Once it snowballed, once millions of people suddenly had health insurance, the lies of the right snowballed. They had chosen to die on that hill and rallied the base around them. That base is now uneasy.

    I wonder if/when the GOP rank and file will realize how much they were lied to, or if they even can anymore in the fact-free Fox-"news" bubble.
    Absolutely. This fool was right there believing it. & I didn't need FOX to tell me to believe. I was happy to believe it on face value. You'd hear the rumors that it was just because they knew Zero wouldn't sign it, but, I cascaded over that warning without so much as a glance in it's direction.

    But, that's got absolutely nothing to do with Trump having them at his advantage over this. He's gonna put the screws to 'em. Ain't a damn thing they can do about it except repeal it, or, impeach him.

    How much you wanna bet they'll have nothing to do with the former & are famished for the meal to come at the latter?

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    But, that's got absolutely nothing to do with Trump having them at his advantage over this. He's gonna put the screws to 'em. Ain't a damn thing they can do about it except repeal it, or, impeach him.
    Congress isn't scared of the Dear Leader. McConnell basically told Trump to go himself by holding that vote when he didn't have McCain as a yes, since that formal vote ensured the skinny repeal could be the only spending bill for the fiscal year that could be brought up for a reconciliation vote. And honestly, McCain probably cast that vote as a cover for at least one of Graham, Portman, Capito, and er in addition to getting right with a God who hates Trumpcare.

    Plus Trump is such a cuck. He's not pushing for the health care reform he ran on last year. He's pushing the bill that Paul Ryan wrote because Priebus told him it was good.
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    Congress isn't scared of the Dear Leader. McConnell basically told Trump to go himself by holding that vote when he didn't have McCain as a yes, since that formal vote ensured the skinny repeal could be the only spending bill for the fiscal year that could be brought up for a reconciliation vote. And honestly, McCain probably cast that vote as a cover for at least one of Graham, Portman, Capito, and er in addition to getting right with a God who hates Trumpcare.

    Plus Trump is such a cuck. He's not pushing for the health care reform he ran on last year. He's pushing the bill that Paul Ryan wrote because Priebus told him it was good.
    Absolutely. The rub here, bum,,,is that Trump don't give a either. That's why he lit their asses up.

    He's got nary to lose. What's more? Everybody and their sister knows it.

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    Absolutely. The rub here, bum,,,is that Trump don't give a either. That's why he lit their asses up.

    He's got nary to lose. What's more? Everybody and their sister knows it.
    But why is Trump such a cuck on healthcare? Instead of the healthcare reform he ran on he's arguing for Paul Ryan's bill because Priebus told him to.

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    But why is Trump such a cuck on healthcare? Instead of the healthcare reform he ran on he's arguing for Paul Ryan's bill because Priebus told him to.
    What left field does this materiel come from?

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    What left field does this materiel come from?
    Well there was Ryan writing the AHCA and McConnell's BCRA being basically the same bull . Priebus was the one who was pushing this bull bill hard and he went down when it failed.

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    Well there was Ryan writing the AHCA and McConnell's BCRA being basically the same bull . Priebus was the one who was pushing this bull bill hard and he went down when it failed.
    I'm still waiting on the Priebus information.

    Chop/chop.

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    Mitch McConnell Just Broke His Silence On Trump’s Twitter Bullying Attack On Him

    McConnell has been largely silent as the attacks roll in, but today he responded.

    CNN’s Manu Raju says that several reporters asked McConnell to comment on Trump’s tweets.

    McConnell said he was “disappointed” before proceeding silently to his office.

    Manu Raju
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    McConnell refuses to comment on Trump saying he's disappointed in him and about president's attacks. Walks in silence back to his office

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08...llying-attack/

    McC, which way will you vote when the Repug Haus passes you the articles of impeachment?








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    Mitch McConnell Just Broke His Silence On Trump’s Twitter Bullying Attack On Him

    McConnell has been largely silent as the attacks roll in, but today he responded.

    CNN’s Manu Raju says that several reporters asked McConnell to comment on Trump’s tweets.

    McConnell said he was “disappointed” before proceeding silently to his office.

    Manu Raju
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    McConnell refuses to comment on Trump saying he's disappointed in him and about president's attacks. Walks in silence back to his office

    http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08...llying-attack/

    McC, which way will you vote when the Repug Haus passes you the articles of impeachment?







    Of course Mitch will vote for impeachment. ANYTHING to get back to the status quo. Trump knows this without being told. He has no friends there. They, THEY are friends with one another, both sides of the aisle, both Houses of Congress. (They) are in league together. Nothing, NOTHING will get passed until Trump is out of there. Then, THEN they'll toss us some crumbs as they sew the interruption that WAS Trump's time in office. Media will spear head, will sheep herd this most dangerous time in our country since the Civil War. And by God they'll/Media will be more than up the task. You know that 60 million of Trump's base? They'll have the lion's share of them turned over in short order. That will be killing ground. Once they "pay" them off we'll be back to 7 November 2016 like he never mopped the in' floor with her in' ass.

    Trump President. Not Clinton.

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    Not Out Of The Woods Yet: 5 Looming Threats To Obamacare And Medicaid



    HHS Silence On Obamacare Enrollment Efforts

    “This market needs a healthy risk pool,” she explained, noting that sick people don’t need to be convinced to sign up for insurance but a pool only comprised of those people would be unstable and prohibitively expensive. “If the administration is suppressing open enrollment activities, that alone is cause for great concern.”

    Trump Keeps Subsidies In Limbo

    “The looming ax hanging over the CSRs is very worrisome,” said Sarah Somers, a managing attorney at the National Health Law Program. “It spooks insurers and creates instability. This is no way to run a private insurance market.”

    If Trump does cut off the payments, and if Congress is unable to pass a bill this fall to fund them, experts predict that insurers will flee or hike their premiums sky high to make up for the lost funding.

    Shrinking The Medicaid Expansion

    Medicaid proved far more popular and resilient than Republicans anticipated, but threats from state governments and HHS remain.

    A crucial decision could come soon on a Medicaid waiver request from Arkansas that, if approved, could allow states across the country to boot hundreds of thousands of people from the Medicaid rolls. The waiver asks permission to roll back the state’s Medicaid expansion population from 138 percent of the federal poverty line to 100 percent,

    kicking
    about 60,000 people out of the program.

    Here Come The Medicaid Waivers

    In addition to Arkansas’ pe ion, a host of Medicaid waivers from other states awaiting approval from HHS have the potential to severely restrict the federal program.

    At least five states so far are asking permission to impose a work requirement on their Medicaid systems, despite research indicating that the vast majority of Medicaid beneficiaries do work and those who do not face serious barriers to employment.

    Republicans In Congress Can’t Stop, Won’t Stop

    The GOP’s long-term goals of repealing Obamacare and gutting Medicaid—House Speaker Paul Ryan’s personal dream since his frat boy days—is far from dead, and will continue to lurk in undead zombie fashion until a political opportunity presents itself.

    “Congressional plans to kill the Medicaid expansion,

    block-grant traditional Medicaid,

    impose per capita caps,

    etc. are over for now, but could change in a moment,”


    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obam...0%28TPMNews%29



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    Destroying both Medicare and Medicaid is Paul Ryan's UnHoly Grail in his spineless, black-hearted so-called Catholic life

    Paul Ryan says he has wanted to reform Medicaid since he was 'drinking at a keg'

    So Medicaid, sending it back to the states, capping its growth rate, we've been dreaming of this since I've been around —

    since you and I were drinking at a keg. ...

    I've been thinking about this stuff for a long time," Ryan said.

    "We're on the cusp of doing something we've long believed in."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/20/paul...frat-days.html


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    Congratulations to Donald Trump for expanding Obamacare into all counties.



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    Thanks Colbert


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    Insiders Just Revealed Republican Plan to Hold Children’s Healthcare Hostage For Tax Cuts

    The Wall Street Journal is reporting today that:

    “Republicans are looking to possibly attach a repeal of Affordable Care Act taxes—

    including levies on certain health insurance plans and medical devices—

    to a CHIP reauthorization bill, people familiar with the thinking said.”

    The Republican Party, it appears, is gearing up for a game of chicken, and

    they’re prepared to trap 8 million children are in the car with them,

    just to cut taxes that will benefit the wealthy.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/08/3...tage-tax-cuts/


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    Trump to slash ObamaCare outreach funding

    Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) officials announced on a call with reporters Thursday that funding for advertising and other outreach for ObamaCare enrollment will be cut from $100 million last year to $10 million this year.

    “A health-care system that has caused premiums to double and left nearly half of our counties with only one coverage option is not working,"

    ing lying , if she is talking specifically about ACA

    Officials also announced they are cutting funding for "navigators," which are outside organizations that help sign people up. Funding will be proportional to how navigators have fared in hitting their enrollment target the previous year. If a group signed up 70 percent of their target, they will get 70 percent of the funding.

    An HHS official said this system means navigators will be "held accountable." be very afraid! Strict Father gonna getcha


    The reduction in spending on the navigators is a 41 percent cut, down to $36.8 million, HHS said.

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...treach-funding


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    Trump Ramps Up Obamacare Sabotage With Huge Cuts To Enrollment Programs

    Advertising and promotional budget for HealthCare.gov has been slashed by 90 percent and programs to help people sign up also face a nearly 40 percent cut

    Weakening the two most important tools

    the federal government has to promote enrollment on the state-based exchanges ―
    39 of which are run wholly or mainly by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services

    Less awareness of the open enrollment period running from Nov. 1 to Dec. 15, combined with less help from

    community organizations, which have assisted more than 9 million enrollees with sign-ups

    since the autumn of 2013, will likely result in fewer people being covered by health insurance obtained via the federally operated exchanges accessed on
    HealthCare.gov.

    Trump himself repeatedly has said he wants to let or make the health insurance exchanges collapse, and

    his administration has taken a number of actions to destabilize them.


    The current administration also cut the open enrollment period for next year to half its length from last year,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...gEmail__090117

    Trash, Price, Repugs, all of whom America and Americans at every opportunity.

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    This quote from Wyoming's Governor is a stunner.

    As health care debate simmers, Mead laments lack of Medicaid expansion in Wyoming

    Gov. Matt Mead lamented the $100 million that Wyoming left on the table by choosing not to expand Medicaid, and he expressed concern for the state’s hospitals while discussing health care with the Star-Tribune recently.

    Mead echoed some of the fears that many Wyoming hospital officials have expressed for months: that congressional proposals to overhaul the health care system may have negative effects on facilities here and that the state has suffered because it chose not to allow more people to qualify for Medicaid.


    “The idea that we did not accept Medicaid expansion and things are going to be good just hasn’t turned out,” he said.


    He said that because the state didn’t expand Medicaid — a proposal he supported in the past — Wyoming has missed out on $100 million a year in federal aid. He added that in Wyoming, the program is currently facing a $20 million deficit.

    “The ACA, there’s certainly some room for improvement,” he continued. “But to throw it out just because it’s the ACA, I don’t think that’s a good idea.”
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

    Trash + Repugs wanting to kill Obamacare just because it's from Obama, nothing but pure spite, just like Trash killing DACA



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    What happens when you cut Obamacare advertising? Let’s ask Kentucky.

    Kentucky provides a great test case for what happens when an administration cuts back on outreach.

    Beshear left office and a stalwart anti-Obamacare Republican, Matt Bevin, became governor. He abruptly cut off any state funding for Obamacare advertising, leading to four weeks of enrollment without any ad support.


    • 450,000 fewer page views per week on the website for the state Obamacare marketplace without TV advertising;
    • 20,000 fewer unique visitors per week to the website without TV advertising; and
    • no notable change in calls to the marketplace's call center.


    "Our analysis tells us that

    state-sponsored television advertising was a substantial driver of information-seeking behavior in Kentucky during open enrollment ––

    a critical step to getting consumers to shop for plans, understand their eligibility for premium tax credits or Medicaid, and enroll in coverage."

    https://www.vox.com/health-care/2017/9/5/16257046/voxcare-kentucky-outreach-obamacare-advertising

    Maybe Medicins Sans Frontieres or the WHO should visit third-world KY.



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    so stop advertising means you are a third world country
    LOL ask mexico

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    This quote from Wyoming's Governor is a stunner.

    As health care debate simmers, Mead laments lack of Medicaid expansion in Wyoming

    Gov. Matt Mead lamented the $100 million that Wyoming left on the table by choosing not to expand Medicaid, and he expressed concern for the state’s hospitals while discussing health care with the Star-Tribune recently.

    Mead echoed some of the fears that many Wyoming hospital officials have expressed for months: that congressional proposals to overhaul the health care system may have negative effects on facilities here and that the state has suffered because it chose not to allow more people to qualify for Medicaid.


    “The idea that we did not accept Medicaid expansion and things are going to be good just hasn’t turned out,” he said.


    He said that because the state didn’t expand Medicaid — a proposal he supported in the past — Wyoming has missed out on $100 million a year in federal aid. He added that in Wyoming, the program is currently facing a $20 million deficit.

    “The ACA, there’s certainly some room for improvement,” he continued. “But to throw it out just because it’s the ACA, I don’t think that’s a good idea.”
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre

    Trash + Repugs wanting to kill Obamacare just because it's from Obama, nothing but pure spite, just like Trash killing DACA


    Pretty much.

    GOP is using average Americans as ammunition in the war on Obama's presidency.

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    Pretty much.

    GOP is using average Americans as ammunition in the war on Obama's presidency.
    GOP knows fully well that 100Ks of Americans will suffer with untreated diseases, and 10Ks will die if Medicaid expansion is killed.

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    Life expectancy trends tied to 2016 voting choices

    voting patterns correlated with the nation's growing geographic health divides, with Donald Trump winning more votes in counties that have seen lower gains in life expectancy.

    Life expectancy in the US rose by about five years between 1980 and 2014, but the gains were not even.

    "In the last 30 years, there's been a sharp divergence in life expectancy across US counties," Bor says.

    "Some counties have gained a full decade of life expectancy. Others have really been left behind, with zero gains or even falling life expectancy in this period."

    Life expectancy trends also correlated with voter turnout:

    The total number of votes for the two major parties increased by 1.3 million in counties with above-average life expectancy gains and

    fell by 1.9 million in counties with below-average gains--the counties more likely to go for Trump.

    "In the 2016 election, in counties that had been left behind in life expectancy gains, residents abandoned the Democratic Party, voting for Trump or not voting at all,"

    Bor stresses the relationship may not be causal, and does not rule out other explanations for Trump's margins in these counties, namely the roles of race and economic marginalization.

    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-09/buso-let090717.php

    So the people who REALLY needed expansion of Medicaid and ACA, voted for Repugs who had denied them healthcare.


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    Trump Threatens to Veto Medicare-For-All, But Gets a Brutal Slapback From Bernie Sanders

    Donald J. Trump
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    Bernie Sanders is pushing hard for a single payer healthcare plan - a curse on the U.S. & its people...


    Follow

    Donald J. Trump
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    ...I told Republicans to approve healthcare fast or this would happen. But don't worry, I will veto because I love our country & its people.
    2:32 PM - Sep 14, 2017




    Bernie Sanders
    @SenSanders

    No Mr. President, providing health care to every man, woman and child as a right is not a curse, it's exactly what we should be doing. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908413019050463232 …


    Follow

    Bernie Sanders
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    What is a curse is your support for throwing 23 million off health insurance. That's the curse and we won't allow you to get away with it.
    2:53 PM - Sep 14, 2017





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    Sanders is not important boutons voted for him

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