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Were you really taught this nonsense in school?
Disclaimer: I'm a northerner who's only exposure to confederacy has been Dukes of Hazzard shows when i was a kid and ty later career kid rock songs. I didn't grow up with the aura or alternate history. What i've been reading lately is that there maybe another side of Lee than what i was taught 25 years ago. When we were in school all confederate soldiers were horrible people that owned, beat, and sold slaves. Light wikipedia reading, ok, more like skimming, says he leaned towards the north and reluctantly went along with his state seceding. Other comments i've read said he freed his families slaves prior to the civil war. His legacy grew after his death, especially in northern states. Everything on the internet is to be taken with a grain of salt.
My point is, i get the difference between monuments of Washington and Lee. Mainly, that George was on the winning team.
But is the hatred of Lee's statues because of his treatment to slaves? Because it sounds like a lot of America's "hero's" were die hard slave fans. Was it because the victors write history?
What makes Lee's statues worth protesting either for or against but Crazy Horse and the like's do not receive such fanfare?
Were you really taught this nonsense in school?
I guess my experience is what i paid attention to. My answer may not be the curriculum we were taught but as a kid, did you really pay much attention to American History? It was pretty boring but that's my takeaway. The union was the sympathetic, righteous, do gooder and everyone in the south owned or had a family that owned a plantation or was a slave.
its not just about being on the winning team or owning slaves. lee was a general in an army that fought against the united states of america in a war that was primarily about the right to own and trade people as property. after federal troops left the south in the early 1900s following reconstruction, the kkk grew in influence and many confederate memorials were built to honor the confederacy and stick a middle finger in the face of integration. like the kkk, these white knights of the confederacy were viewed as heroes. suddenly the confederate flag became cool again too.
crazy horse fought against the genocide of his people on land that they occupied before they were overrun and massacred on their own land. he was not a traitor to the union. he is worthy of honor. general lee is worthy of being a footnote in history books. his statues.
What Crazy Horse and the like statues are you talking about?
Personally, I'm not a fan of idolizing those who killed in the name of treason and slavery.
So you weren't actually taught that. Thanks.
Do you mean what crazy horse monument i'm talking about or what others i'm referring to? I guess i thought everyone was aware of https://crazyhorsememorial.org/ I should not assume its known outside of the are until done though.
I guess i'm talking about the too numerous to mention local northern monuments/statues of indian/outlaws like Red Cloud, Jessie James, etc...
When will the historical reenactments and city/county names feel the same protests?
Not sure, You mind forwarding the youth curriculum you were exposed to during 5th through 9th grade within the next five minutes 25 years ago? You're response is showing your bias btw.
The older i get the more i believe theres a very fine line between treason and patriotism. Do we not honor the fallen "hero's" of foreign wars?
What bias does he have?
the lee statues and memorials are less about honoring lee and more about white america marking their territory against a growing free black population.
Saying that i wasn't taught that when i told him what i remember shows that he wants to call me a liar without knowing anything that i sat through.
What's with the Northern Union adopting him as a hero after his death then?
he was paraded by the union to foster peaceful reconstruction and concession
Crazy Horse Monument is on private land.
Understood, but there would still be protests if he was not considerd a hero. Is monuments on BIA ground considered public land?
I'm not calling you a liar. I asked you if you were actually taught what you are saying in school and you said said you don't remember what you were actually taught. That's all I wanted to know.
Cliff Notes wiki summary show he wasn't a bad guy, also wasn't considered the confederate war hero.
TBH, sounded like if he was a union general he'd have been a President shortly thereafter.
We're basically down to ranking attrocities against our govt.
Slavery was legal prior to the war. Robbing banks and murdering people were never.
I told you what i rememberd about american history.
You told me it didn't happen then.
If that ain't someone calling another a liar wtf is then?
nut up.
what public monuments do we have to bank robbers and murderers?
anyway, i dont know any point in this countrys history where we havent viewed defecting and leading an army against the usa as worse than robbery or even murder.
and honestly you should really read more than a wikipedia summary if youre going to devote this much time to defending someone.
There were protests by people who thought he was a hero.
Secession, sedition and treason were never legal.
the Confederate flag was insignificant until the the Dixicrats in 1948 began using it as racist, segregationist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern...nd_controversy
the next massacre of blacks was after WWI where blacks had shown themselves to be the equal of whites as warriors
The Black Wall Street Massacre:
https://timeline.com/history-tulsa-r...e-a92bb2356a69
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smiths...921-180959251/
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