Invade Venezuela now?

[Pavlov]

You live in a safe house, where big brother will make sure everything is okay.

Nah, I live in a rational world where allegations are proved with evidence, not rumors and innuendo.

[Spurminator]

For 3 million illegal immigrants to have voted in the 2016 election, that would mean that almost 30% of illegals voted.

30%, despite the fact that they can't register, and that being caught could result in their deportation.

30% of them said, "you know what, I know more of us were deported under President Obama than any other President before him, but dammit we want Hillary Clinton in that White House and the risk."

That anyone, especially the President of the United States, thinks this is in any way likely or consistent with a realistic view of the world is mind-bogglingly stupid.

[Spurtacular]

How many votes from American citizens did Dems get?

Of course you have no doubts that millions of illegals voted with no evidence whatsoever. If you only believe it hard enough, it must be true.

Where in the Cons ution does it say that illegals can go into our country and out kids and they're citizens?

But it's a load of illegal votes either way. Democrats don't give a about respecting the rights of the citizen. In California, some towns have made it "legal" to have illegals be paid for city council positions. In Maryland, they're trying to make it legal for illegals to vote. That is what you're Democrats do. Don't give me your sanctimony about voter suppression when it's clear that your party is doing everything possible to get votes from illegals.

[Spurtacular]

For 3 million illegal immigrants to have voted in the 2016 election, that would mean that almost 30% of illegals voted.

Yea, because that 11 million figure which hasn't changed for like a decade is the real number of illegals.

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Yea, because that 11 million figure which hasn't changed for like a decade is the real number of illegals.

That number fluctuates as Media deems necessary.

[Spurminator]

Yea, because that 11 million figure which hasn't changed for like a decade is the real number of illegals.

It changed from 12 million in 2009.

Unless you have better data. Or is this another one of those things you just "have no doubt about"?

Let's even say there's 30 million illegals. That's still 10% who decided to risk being caught in order to criminally cast a vote. It's still beyond stupid to believe it was even that high.

[Pavlov]

Where in the Cons ution does it say that illegals can go into our country and out kids and they're citizens?

"Natural born citizen" is all over the Cons ution. Take it up with the founders.

But it's a load of illegal votes either way. Democrats don't give a about respecting the rights of the citizen. In California, some towns have made it "legal" to have illegals be paid for city council positions. In Maryland, they're trying to make it legal for illegals to vote. That is what you're Democrats do. Don't give me your sanctimony about voter suppression when it's clear that your party is doing everything possible to get votes from illegals.

Hey, moar anecdotes!

[Spurtacular]

It changed from 12 million in 2009.

Unless you have better data. Or is this another one of those things you just "have no doubt about"?

Let's even say there's 30 million illegals. That's still 10% who decided to risk being caught in order to criminally cast a vote. It's still beyond stupid to believe it was even that high.

What risk? There's more risk they'll be bitten by a snake. Go ahead and show me the cases in California in which illegals were prosecuted for voting.

[Spurtacular]

"Natural born citizen" is all over the Cons ution. Take it up with the founders.

Natural born when the parents are citizens of another country? <Shakes head>

[Pavlov]

Natural born when the parents are citizens of another country? <Shakes head>

Yep, that's the law. Change it if you believe you can.

[Spurtacular]

Yep, that's the law. Change it if you believe you can.

It's allegedly the law.

[Spurminator]

What risk? There's more risk they'll be bitten by a snake. Go ahead and show me the cases in California in which illegals were prosecuted for voting.

You want me, a person who believes there is almost zero incidence of alien voting in America, to find a court case of an alien voting.

The burden of proof is on you.

[Pavlov]

It's allegedly the law.

No. It's the law. You can't just deny states of being. The natural born citizen law is the law.

[Pavlov]

You want me, a person who believes there is almost zero incidence of alien voting in America, to find a court case of an alien voting.

The burden of proof is on you.

Go ahead! Prove my case for me! I dare you!

[Spurtacular]

You want me, a person who believes there is almost zero incidence of alien voting in America, to find a court case of an alien voting.

The burden of proof is on you.

No, it's not. You made the claim that there is great risk to an illegal voting. You can't even show me one case in California of an illegal being prosecuted for voting. Thus, your claim is obviously bull .

[Spurminator]

No, it's not. You made the claim that there is great risk to an illegal voting. You can't even show me one case in California of an illegal being prosecuted for voting. Thus, your claim is obviously bull .

Me: There is great risk when it comes to removing your own appendix.

You: Bull , show me someone who has died from removing his own appendix.

[Spurtacular]

No. It's the law. You can't just deny states of being. The natural born citizen law is the law.

It's a gray area at a minimum.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-arent-covere/

[Pavlov]

No, it's not. You made the claim that there is great risk to an illegal voting. You can't even show me one case in California of an illegal being prosecuted for voting. Thus, your claim is obviously bull .

seriously, what university taught you how to make an argument?

[Spurtacular]

Me: There is great risk when it comes to removing your own appendix.

You: Bull , show me someone who has died from removing his own appendix.

Give me a ing break, dude. That's not even close to applicable, unless you just don't believe in math and you think zero illegals vote.

[Pavlov]

It's a gray area at a minimum.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-arent-covere/

It's the de facto law. Change it if you think you can.

[Spurminator]

Give me a ing break, dude. That's not even close to applicable, unless you just don't believe in math and you think zero illegals vote.

You think millions vote. That is the goal post we're discussing.

Would you like to change your claim to "more than zero illegals voted" or are you going to stick with millions?

[Pavlov]

Give me a ing break, dude. That's not even close to applicable, unless you just don't believe in math and you think zero illegals vote.

I believe it's so close to zero there would be at best a handful of prosecutions. These are the same people who avoid calling the cops because they think they will be deported. Why would they register with the government in order to commit an illegal act?

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I believe it's so close to zero there would be at best a handful of prosecutions. These are the same people who avoid calling the cops because they think they will be deported. Why would they register with the government in order to commit an illegal act?

Like I said from get go:::Trump is only doing this to tamp down & cleanse the vote in '18 & '20. By keeping this pot on low heat he'll accomplish that to an extent. And he doesn't have to spend any of his money on the thing. It's our money being spent.

[Spurtacular]

You think millions vote. That is the goal post we're discussing.

Would you like to change your claim to "more than zero illegals voted" or are you going to stick with millions?

The goal post was that the risk is great for illegals to vote; and in California among other states, that is clearly not the case.

[Spurtacular]

I believe it's so close to zero there would be at best a handful of prosecutions. These are the same people who avoid calling the cops because they think they will be deported. Why would they register with the government in order to commit an illegal act?

Oh, give me a break. I swear you buy the media narratives about as well as any other useful idiot. Illegal aliens have been holding protests in mass numbers and been quite brazen.