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    Tell us about the basic physics.
    Here's an in-depth explanation written by an actual physicist:

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2006/11...ysics-of-9-11/

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    I can't tell who's embarrassed themselves more recently: him or Chris.
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    Here's an in-depth explanation written by an actual physicist:

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2006/11...ysics-of-9-11/
    How about some bullet points. Or is this just some bull you punch up?

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    How about some bullet points. Or is this just some bull you punch up?
    If you're not willing to read an article that explains why your conspira theories are wrong, it's certainly not worth the time for me to spoonfeed you the same information.

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    How about some bullet points. Or is this just some bull you punch up?
    You want CN to tutor you in physics when you can't even say what you think happened on 9/11?

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    If you're not willing to read an article that explains why your conspira theories are wrong, it's certainly not worth the time for me to spoonfeed you the same information.
    I looked at it. It was crap. But if you can't even say points, then it appears you're the one that's been spoonfed.

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    I looked at it. It was crap. But if you can't even say points, then it appears you're the one that's been spoonfed.
    Yeah, I'm sure you know more about the subject than a professional physicist and engineer does.

    If you're such an expert, why are you so afraid to say what you think really happened on 9/11?

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    Yeah, I'm sure you know more about the subject than a professional physicist and engineer does.

    If you're such an expert, why are you so afraid to say what you think really happened on 9/11?
    And what of the "professional" scientists who have said that it's not possible for the steel to melt and collapse like that? Why do you play such lame cards, dude. Surely, you know of this. Honestly though, that was a piss-poor article. I wouldn't have bothered to list bullet points for it either.

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    And what of the "professional" scientists who have said that it's not possible for the steel to melt and collapse like that? Why do you play such lame cards, dude. Surely, you know of this. Honestly though, that was a piss-poor article. I wouldn't have bothered to list bullet points for it either.
    Extremely detailed explanation by a physicist vs. "durr, it's piss-poor because I said so!"

    I rest my case.

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    OK, I "studied" 9/11 more than any layman not being paid to should. I will say categorically that Al Qaeda did this with no involvement from the US government. I will leave open the possibility of individual members of mideast governments being involved, and that the CIA might have known more about some things than they ever let on -- but that's it. I was so anti-Iraq war I wanted to believe the absolute worst about Bush and Cheney, but I found trutherism to be so unbelievably stupid and dishonest I ended up pretty hardcore in the opposite camp. Many here can attest to that.

    bum is asking the question that seems to make every conspiracy theorist his pants: "What do you think really happened?" It's so simple but so devastating to truthers in particular because they're the most smug of the conspiracy theorists. I still can't believe how any truther could honestly go about his normal life while believing his government killed all those people and kneecapped the economy just for a chance to delay people at airports and start a war most Americans would've supported anyway.

    And as someone who spent way too much time on this, I will say that you don't know about any of this without reading The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright and Perfect Soldiers by Terry McDermott. Those books alone will show you these mother ers didn't need any help from anyone, let alone the US gubmit.

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    And what of the "professional" scientists who have said that it's not possible for the steel to melt and collapse like that?
    The structural steel didn't have to melt to cause that kind of collapse, but I like that you put "professional" in quotes.

    If Random Guy sees this, he's gonna bump the 9/11 thread.

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    The structural steel didn't have to melt to cause that kind of collapse, but I like that you put "professional" in quotes.

    If Random Guy sees this, he's gonna bump the 9/11 thread.
    Well, the people who say 9/11 was on the level are the ones saying it did.

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    OK, I "studied" 9/11 more than any layman not being paid to should. I will say categorically that Al Qaeda did this with no involvement from the US government. I will leave open the possibility of individual members of mideast governments being involved, and that the CIA might have known more about some things than they ever let on -- but that's it. I was so anti-Iraq war I wanted to believe the absolute worst about Bush and Cheney, but I found trutherism to be so unbelievably stupid and dishonest I ended up pretty hardcore in the opposite camp. Many here can attest to that.

    bum is asking the question that seems to make every conspiracy theorist his pants: "What do you think really happened?" It's so simple but so devastating to truthers in particular because they're the most smug of the conspiracy theorists. I still can't believe how any truther could honestly go about his normal life while believing his government killed all those people and kneecapped the economy just for a chance to delay people at airports and start a war most Americans would've supported anyway.

    And as someone who spent way too much time on this, I will say that you don't know about any of this without reading The Looming Tower by Lawrence Wright and Perfect Soldiers by Terry McDermott. Those books alone will show you these mother ers didn't need any help from anyone, let alone the US gubmit.

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    Rant? More like a gov. press release; said a whole lot of nothing.

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    Extremely detailed explanation by a physicist vs. "durr, it's piss-poor because I said so!"

    I rest my case.
    Oh, saying the towers collapsing could happen cos some plastics melted in elevator shafts is top notch science.

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    Well, the people who say 9/11 was on the level are the ones saying it did.
    No, they aren't.

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    Rant? More like a gov. press release; said a whole lot of nothing.
    What do you think really happened on 9/11, Spurtacular?

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    What do you think really happened on 9/11, Spurtacular?
    In a nuts , I think that the govt. players created a large enough catastrophic event to take away rights (empower themselves) and enrich themselves in perpetuity.

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    I'll add one more to the reading list: Against All Enemies by Richard Clarke. It's a bit self-serving as all memoirs are, but it delivers an extremely important message about how partisan politics and intragovernment squabbling continually ed our handling of the terrorism issue and in many ways allowed 9/11 to come about. I kind of see the same thing happening with regards to foreign election interference; we're being partisan s about it at our peril.

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    No, they aren't.
    Buildings haven't collapsed like that as the result of fire before or since. And the only way it would even be believable is if it collapsed in a much shorter time. The theory is it was the jet fuel that made it so much hotter; but that would have ran out rather quickly, as is the nature of that substance in fire. There was no cauldron effect that could have made the fire that much hotter and hour and a half later.

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    In a nuts , I think that the govt. players created a large enough catastrophic event to take away rights (empower themselves) and enrich themselves in perpetuity.
    Pretty empty nuts .

    Who are these players? You're gonna have to name names after your extensive research.

    Also, have you read any of the books I recommended? Do you have any you recommend yourself? NOTE: Don't ever try to make me watch a YouTube with spooky synth music. It's not going to happen.

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    I'll add one more to the reading list: Against All Enemies by Richard Clarke.
    A book by the guy who was supposed to stop 9/11 is supposed to exonerate Bush?

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    Buildings haven't collapsed like that as the result of fire before or since.
    Buildinds haven't been hit by jet airliners at 500+ mph before or since.

    And the only way it would even be believable is if it collapsed in a much shorter time. The theory is it was the jet fuel that made it so much hotter; but that would have ran out rather quickly, as is the nature of that substance in fire. There was no cauldron effect that could have made the fire that much hotter and hour and a half later.
    Cauldron effect? What's the cauldron supposed to be in the trade center towers?

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    A book by the guy who was supposed to stop 9/11 is supposed to exonerate Bush?
    Have you read it?

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    Pretty empty nuts .

    Who are these players? You're gonna have to name names after your extensive research.

    Also, have you read any of the books I recommended? Do you have any you recommend yourself? NOTE: Don't ever try to make me watch a YouTube with spooky synth music. It's not going to happen.
    Yea, you'd rather focus on stuff that is pretty much akin to govt. approved reading.

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    Yea, you'd rather focus on stuff that is pretty much akin to govt. approved reading.
    OK, show me the books on your reading list.

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