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I have not read his white wash report. What books have you read that are critical of the govt. 911 narrative?
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Thank you for proving your ignorance.
Yes, to create that heat that high and not have it escape to the open air. While steel in and of itself could do that, most of the building is not steel. That's why when fires run out, the building is gone except for the steel. Thus, the longer it burns, the less chance of collapse.
If I start naming books on 9/11 that you have not read, will I be proving your "ignorance" as well?
Well, I'm convinced. When intellectual ans like Spurtacular and Chris agree on something, how can it be wrong?
Wow. This is a new one. Is there a cauldron-effect book you could direct me to that explains this as it applies to 9/11 in some coherent way?
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Could be. I find Clarke's book to be pretty critical for understanding the war on terror. You can't rely on any one source, that's why I led with three.
What are your top three 9/11 books?
It's "basic physics" to use CN's term. You're the one trying to explain an anomaly with the typical stooge parroting of "jet fuel; it was the jet fuel, man!"Truth is that the building would have been lighter and cooler an hour and a half after impact than say five minutes after impact. If it was even possible for the jet fuel to do that (and it's almost certainly not), then that's when it would have occurred.
I didn't say it was the jet fuel man. That spread the initial fire for sure.It's "basic physics" to use CN's term. You're the one trying to explain an anomaly with the typical stooge parroting of "jet fuel; it was the jet fuel, man!"
Oh, I don't doubt that it's a big promo for fighting terror. That's what 9/11 was designed for. I'm sure it was far from critical from explaining the events of 9/11 though.
So, what do you think made it so hot (in both buildings) that they collapsed in a manner that has not occurred in any other instances in history?
I don't have a list. I'll say that 'While America Slept,' which is far from a truther book is what put the seed of doubt into my mind for 9/11 and OKC. Joseph Farrell is a guy who has done a lot of strong work on the subject. The do entary by Massimo Cazzucco is pretty damning as well.
Not in the way you think.What are your top three 9/11 books?That's what 9/11 was designed for. I'm sure it was far from critical from explaining the events of 9/11 though.
It didn't have to be hot enough to melt steel. That's the kind of dishonest straw man that truthers have been vomiting up for 16 years. That and your saying things like "cauldron effect" lead me to believe your "research" isn't all that extensive.
Heat actually melting the steel is what statists have spouted time and time again. Why do you think that the building collapsed like a demo unlike any other in the history of fires if not that?
The one by Robert O'Brien? W's ambassador to the UN?
What work?Joseph Farrell is a guy who has done a lot of strong work on the subject.
Oh, the Italian alternative cancer cure guy. Amazing how that and truthing dovetail so often.The do entary by Massimo Cazzucco is pretty damning as well.
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Oh great. Another 9/11 consira argument.
No, it isn't.
Seriously, if you don't have an understanding of even the basics of the generally accepted explanation for the process of destruction, you can't criticize it.
Do some more of that "research" you've been bragging about and get back to me.
Said that wrong. It was 'Why America Slept' by Gerald Posner. He was not a gov guy or journalist. He was just a fairly modest Wall Street character IIRC.The one by Robert O'Brien? W's ambassador to the UN?
What work?
Oh, the Italian alternative cancer cure guy. Amazing how that and truthing dovetails so often.
J. Farrell has a lot of work out there. I'm not that into his alien ; but I find he does a lot of connecting the dots that most don't on the political stuff. By his own admission, his work is mostly derivative; but he just compiles a lot of info.
M. Cazzucco could have made some other less valid do entaries for all I know. His work on 9/11 is superb. Honestly, you want us to accept a bunch of bull as fact when it's clearly not and there has to be alternative explanations.
Why America Slept relentlessly exposes the frequent mistakes made by law enforcement and government agencies, and demonstrates how the failures to prevent 9/11 were tragically not an exception but typical. In the end, it makes a damning case that the terrorist attacks could have been prevented.
That could easily be the blurb for Against All Enemies. Posner all over JFK conspiri s earlier, so I'm sure his book isn't full of either.
So alien guy and alternative cancer cure guy.J. Farrell has a lot of work out there. I'm not that into his alien ; but I find he does a lot of connecting the dots that most don't on the political stuff. By his own admission, his work is mostly derivative; but he just compiles a lot of info.
M. Cazzucco could have made some other less valid do entaries for all I know. His work on 9/11 is superb. Honestly, you want us to accept a bunch of bull as fact when it's clearly not and there has to be alternative explanations.
Hard pass on those two.
What caused the towers to collapse for the first and only time in history during a fire?
I didn't say I'm a Posner fan; I just noted that some of the things he brought up is what planted the seed of doubt. And the other guys do quality work; I could care less about your gimpy efforts to fallaciously attack them.
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