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    Man, you're a hardcore cuck for the system. They're monopolies that shouldn't lawfully be thought policing. I'd be okay with it if these companies weren't on the govt's teet and the playing field was open.
    Free market won out. The Daily Stormer got found people willing to work with him.

    You're the "cuck" for the system. If I own a web hosting service, it's MY RIGHT to whom I offer and deny services to. Championing government intervention in this case infringes upon that right.

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    Free market won out. The Daily Stormer got found people willing to work with him.

    You're the "cuck" for the system. If I own a web hosting service, it's MY RIGHT to whom I offer and deny services to. Championing government intervention in this case infringes upon that right.
    These are the same companies that have sweetheart deals with the govt, bro. And this is the same govt. that tried to take control of the internet and has to a large degree. Sorry, but your bull about this being free market is not even close to true.

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    yeah just start your own. pretty easy. let's just conveniently ignore the massive barriers in starting your own ISP company like...

    >laying your own cables which costs millions of dollars and takes years to do
    >oh you actually have the millions of dollars and are ready to go you say? Well, guess what...many current ISPs have made deals with local municipalities which deny permitting the laying of new cabling. Get ready for tons of red tape/legal battles that you'll have to fight in court
    >other Jewish trickery preventing market compe ion in areas that these corps operate in. (i.e. Time Warner/CNN goes to Idaho and offers bribes to ensure that only they are the ones that are able to provide internet service in the state, preventing any chance of a startup company succeeding)

    Your post sounds good in theory, but in reality there's no compe ion, it's just market monopoly collusion.
    Well done, bro. Post of the day material.

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    I see your point but it's still sketchy to say the least.

    My issue is why, in the four years that the site was up, did they decide to just now shut it down? If I remember right, Dylann Roof said he was a Stormer reader yet nobody cared to ban the site from the internet. But then one white woman gets run over by some autistic guy and that's the straw that breaks the camel's back?

    The real reason they shut it down was due to the heavy increase in internet traffic they had leading up to the event. IMO, the internet should become a public utility already. I don't want a bunch of Jews deciding what I can or can't read.
    I know you think people are practicing selective outrage, but the truth is, mainstream America didn't know what the the "alt-right" was before it rode into the national consciousness on the back of Trump. Beforehand, the movement and its figureheads (Spencer, Anglin, et al) still very much existed on the fringe with little-to-no spotlight. The reason it's a "problem" now is because the movement gained an immense amount of momentum over the last year through Trump and Bannon.

    The WWW can never become a public utility much the same way that restaurants can't become public utilities. As I've said, we often confuse the WWW and the Internet. The Internet is simply the electronic infrastructure computers use to communicate with each other. That can perhaps become a public utility (like water), while web hosting services will remain privately owned. Think of it like: Internet (water), Web hosting service (restaurant), web pages (diners).

    I'll counter with: I don't want a bunch of Jews telling me that I have to patronize the opinions of assholes. And yes, Anglin's site should've been nuked a long time ago. He incited violence against that Jewish woman whom he accused of extorting Richard Spencer's mom.
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    These are the same companies that have sweetheart deals with the govt, bro. And this is the same govt. that tried to take control of the internet and has to a large degree. Sorry, but your bull about this being free market is not even close to true.
    No ISP has denied service to Anglin. He can still access the "dark web" via the internet.

    You still don't get it. A few web hosting services refused to do business with him. He can (and has) found another.

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    I know you think people are practicing selective outrage, but the truth is, mainstream America didn't know what the the "alt-right" was before it rode into the national consciousness on the back of Trump.
    It's not a matter of knowing. It's a matter of caring. Lapdog media is the mouthpiece of the elites, not a true news service.

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    It's not a matter of knowing. It's a matter of caring. Lapdog media is the mouthpiece of the elites, not a true news service.
    There's a million alternatives to "lapdog media" out there. Free market at work, again.

    So you'd prefer the Internet to be in the hands of the biggest elitist organization there is (the government)?

    You already see how the FCC restricts speech ("Omg, he cussed on his radio how! 50K fine!). Great idea to cede control of the net to that ins ution

    Again, Anglin found another outlet for his "speech." Took all of a couple days.

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    There's a million alternatives to "lapdog media" out there. Free market at work, again.

    So you'd prefer the Internet to be in the hands of the biggest elitist organization there is (the government)?

    You already see how the FCC restricts speech ("Omg, he cussed on his radio how! 50K fine!). Great idea to cede control of the net to that ins ution

    Again, Anglin found another outlet for his "speech." Took all of a couple days.
    MC said it best; the gov has aided with the growth and subsistence of a monopolistic infrastructure. That there are piddly "alternatives" is far from the point.

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    The only way any company should be "forced" to serve anyone is

    A: the party in question has paid for the service
    B: the business uses federal tax dollars
    C: Court ruling (probably based on one of the two above caveats)

    Otherwise, you should be able to serve who you want, and not serve who you don't. If your business model is poor, you'll go broke. Good for you, you deserved it.

    btw, contrary to ST belief, putting "muh" before something in no way negates or diminishes its importance. It just shows your following argument is likely pretty ing weak.

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    MC said it best; the gov has aided with the growth and subsistence of a monopolistic infrastructure. That there are piddly "alternatives" is far from the point.
    So then why hand the whole thing over to that same government to become a public utility?

    And again, it can't become a public utility, unless you're okay with a single web hosting service for all, which translates into the government having full control over the dissemination of information.

    "Piddly alternatives."

    You can find any number of crackpot websites offering their opinions on everything from how Lizard people control the world to aliens were responsible for 9/11. Looks like you have trouble using google or something

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    Oh, looks like Anglin if off-line again, but the thing is, you can still visit his website in the "dark web."

    Look at it like this. Anglin is shopping around his version of the Turner Diaries to various publishers. No one wants to publish his garbage, so he's resorted to self-publishing in a sense and distributing underground (the dark web).

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    So then why hand the whole thing over to that same government to become a public utility?

    And again, it can't become a public utility, unless you're okay with a single web hosting service for all, which translates into the government having full control over the dissemination of information.

    "Piddly alternatives."

    You can find any number of crackpot websites offering their opinions on everything from how Lizard people control the world to aliens were responsible for 9/11. Looks like you have trouble using google or something
    Are you denying the high degree of integration of these web services? You're basically telling people to not use cars on highways when they can walk through alleys and ditches instead.

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    Given Silicon Valley's political leanings, I doubt we'll see an election result like 2016 again.
    The liberal press says the guys running Silicon Valley are mostly edgy libertarian tech bros. Must be a disinfo op.

    Per a report in Business Insider, as of Thursday, Facebook had two contract positions for “news credibility specialists” open on its job site. The jobs are based out of Menlo Park, California, where the site is headquartered, and one of them lists fluent Spanish as a requirement:
    “We’re seeking individuals with a passion for journalism, who believe in Facebook’s mission of making the world more connected,” one of the two listings reads. It continues: “As a member of the team, you’ll be tasked with developing a deep expertise in Facebook’s News Credibility Program. You’ll be conducting investigations against predefined policies.”
    Facebook would ask the specialists to help create a list of credible news organizations. That list could be used for various features on the site, from the newsfeed to its advertising system.
    https://gizmodo.com/facebook-is-now-...ial-1826654472

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    "the world more connected .." above all to Facebook

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