Stupid People like this are as big a danger to this country as any racist

[DMC]

Indeed. Social media is the culpit here. You can make a situation look more relevant than it actually is.

Only to people to lazy to think for themselves. If one man can know the truth, two can, and so on.

[Pavlov]

What caused the towers to collapse for the first and only time in history during a fire?

So you admit you don't know the very basics of the generally accepted explanation for the process of destruction.

How about you research that until you find it and get back to me. It should literally take you five minutes, tops.

[Mikeanaro]

What caused the towers to collapse for the first and only time in history during a fire?

Yeah, it makes no sense that was an implosion work, all that steel melting because of fire... thats crap.

[Pavlov]

I didn't say I'm a Posner fan; I just noted that some of the things he brought up is what planted the seed of doubt.

"In research for my latest book, I found Clarke to be one of the few heroes in the Bush White House. He was a career bureaucrat who served under four presidents and one of the first officials to recognize the seriousness of the threat posed by Al Qaeda and Islamic fundamentalists."

--Gerald Posner

And the other guys do quality work; I could care less about your gimpy efforts to fallaciously attack them.

It's not a fallacious attack to call one guy "alien guy" and the other "alternative cancer guy."

That's what those guys are.

[Spurtacular]

So you admit you don't know the very basics of the generally accepted explanation for the process of destruction.

How about you research that until you find it and get back to me. It should literally take you five minutes, tops.

I admit that your case to discredit 9/11 truth is based on trying to discredit me, personally. I said from the outset that I'm not a preeminent expert on it. Yet, you attack me rather than deal in the subject matter. I'm still waiting to hear how the towers fell according to you.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, it makes no sense that was an implosion work, all that steel melting because of fire... thats crap.

[Spurtacular]

"In research for my latest book, I found Clarke to be one of the few heroes in the Bush White House. He was a career bureaucrat who served under four presidents and one of the first officials to recognize the seriousness of the threat posed by Al Qaeda and Islamic fundamentalists."

--Gerald Posner



It's not a fallacious attack to call one guy "alien guy" and the other "alternative cancer guy."

That's what those guys are.

I told you that it's not a truther book. I don't know why that's funny. I never said that GP promoted some sort of 9/11 gospel that I subscribed to. Man, you're a really desperate fella.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, it makes no sense that was an implosion work, all that steel melting because of fire... thats crap.

[Pavlov]

I admit that your case to discredit 9/11 truth is based on trying to discredit me, personally. I said from the outset that I'm not a preeminent expert on it. Yet, you attack me rather than deal in the subject matter. I'm still waiting to hear how the towers fell according to you.

You were the one bragging about your research into the matter.

You have proved you don't even know the basics.

I told you you could find it in under five minutes because I just did the search and the reading for s and grins.

You have done nothing.

[Pavlov]

I told you that it's not a truther book. I don't know why that's funny. I never said that GP promoted some sort of 9/11 gospel that I subscribed to. Man, you're a really desperate fella.

I honestly don't know what you are trying to say now. I think it's funny because you're saying Posner's book is great but the book by the person he considers a hero couldn't possibly have any value.

You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about and won't do a simple Google search to end his ignorance.

[Spurtacular]

You were the one bragging about your research into the matter.

You have proved you don't even know the basics.

I told you you could find it in under five minutes because I just did the search and the reading for s and grins.

You have done nothing.

Why do you argue like the biggest butt on the planet? I was never "bragging". You interrogated me about sources, as is your typical style, and I cited some. In what ing universe is that "bragging"? I know you're only a troll and all; but come on, you that inept at arguing?

[Pavlov]

Why do you argue like the biggest butt on the planet? I was never "bragging". You interrogated me about sources, as is your typical style, and I cited some. In what ing universe is that "bragging"? I know you're only a troll and all; but come on, you that inept at arguing?

This universe:

I think there are people who are more learned on the subject than me. But I at least am willing to admit that I've studied the issue. You cannot admit that and yet you are willing to ridicule me on the matter. Are you really surprised that I'd not be eager to engage a close-minded person? And in this case, I'll say that disappoints me because I thought you held yourself to a higher standard than that.

[Spurtacular]

I honestly don't know what you are trying to say now. I think it's funny because you're saying Posner's book is great but the book by the person he considers a hero couldn't possibly have any value.

You're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about and won't do a simple Google search to end his ignorance.

GP talked about the work of terrorists and the knowledge of govt. GP's theory in that book (and this is before trutherism really took off) is basically that the gov. is supremely inept. He makes a convincing case. And this is about the same gov that you apparently have a great trust in. I'm saying that this book in retrospect set a foundation for things I learned later. I don't think it was just a matter of being inept. I think that deep state operatives enabled 9/11 as a means of creating power for themselves. I can see why GP was not so cynical; it's human nature for most people to be trusting and not figure such deviance could occur. But Washington people are basically the worst that America has to offer. Their current riches show that they've capitalized in the wake of 9/11 too.

[Pavlov]

GP talked about the work of terrorists and the knowledge of govt. GP's theory in that book (and this is before trutherism really took off) is basically that the gov. is supremely inept. He makes a convincing case. And this is about the same gov that you apparently have a great trust in. I'm saying that this book in retrospect set a foundation for things I learned later. I don't think it was just a matter of being inept. I think that deep state operatives enabled 9/11 as a means of creating power for themselves. I can see why GP was not so cynical; it's human nature for most people to be trusting and not figure such deviance could occur. But Washington people are basically the worst that America has to offer. Their current riches show that they've capitalized in the wake of 9/11 too.

Great.

So which Americans are you saying did 9/11?

[Spurtacular]

This universe:

That's not bragging; that's stating facts, jack ass.

BTW, love that you signed off of baseline bum to take me on as pavlov.

[Spurtacular]

Great.

So which Americans are you saying did 9/11?

Let's talk about Larry Silverstein for starters. I'm sure you can tell me all about him, because you're so knowledgeable about it all, according to you.

[Pavlov]

That's not bragging; that's stating facts, jack ass.

You don't know the very basics of the "government story" and refuse to even try to know them.

BTW, love that you signed off of baseline bum to take me on as pavlov.

Love that you think we're the same person.

[Pavlov]

Let's talk about Larry Silverstein for starters. I'm sure you can tell me all about him, because you're so knowledgeable about it all, according to you.

The guy who bought the complex and had to pay rent the entire time the whole place didn't exist and produced zero income?

What about him?

[Spurtacular]

You don't know the very basics of the "government story" and refuse to even try to know them.

Love that you think we're the same person.

Bro, focus. You were trying to say how I was "bragging." That never happened. And the govt. has buried facts that who gives a what their official explanations are, honestly. Just one passive mention of building 7 in the WTC commission report. Give me a ing break, dude. You'll excuse me if I don't hang on the words of those murdering bungholes.

...

Your iden y is no secret. You gonna retire bb at 100 K posts too? Too far away to think of?

[Spurtacular]

The guy who bought the complex and had to pay rent the entire time the whole place didn't exist and produced zero income?

What about him?

What? He had to pay his bills like everyone else? Spare me the false narrative. And he certainly bought it right before and got a however many billions in insurance off of it. Yea, the LS that didn't show up to the WTC on 9/11 and the same LS that told his family members not to show up either. And LS is the guy who openly admitted that he told them to demo WTC building 7. That's fact. Naturally, he has avoided talking about that after realizing he implicated himself.

[Mikeanaro]

In USA people uses a lot of drywall to build things, here in Arg is not used a lot since most things are build using bricks and cement.

So when I had the chance to do a little acoustic treatment I used drywall and asked the guy who was doing the installation if it was water resistant because it looked so weak compared to bricks and he told me it can resist water for a month before collapsing, there is an abandoned house on the other block and there was a piece of drywall on the floor and it resisted for a whole month the rain and all the harsh weather before turning into crap.

So I find pretty hard to find such a monster steel based structure can collapse because of fire, and humanity has never seen something like that.

[Pavlov]

Bro, focus. You were trying to say how I was "bragging." That never happened.

Of course you were. You were trying to big time BB saying you couldn't stoop to his level if he hadn't researched 9/11 like you have. Don't try to walk it back now.

And the govt. has buried facts that who gives a what their official explanations are, honestly. Just one passive mention of building 7 in the WTC commission report. Give me a ing break, dude. You'll excuse me if I don't hang on the words of those murdering bungholes.

The Commission report is not an engineering do ent. There really is no reason for it to go in depth on a building in which no one died. If only there was a do ent about WTC 7, right?

Your iden y is no secret. You gonna retire bb at 100 K posts too? Too far away to think of?

[Spurtacular]

In USA people uses a lot of drywall to build things, here in Arg is not used a lot since most things are build using bricks and cement.

So when I had the chance to do a little acoustic treatment I used drywall and asked the guy who was doing the installation if it was water resistant because it looked so weak compared to bricks and he told me it can resist water for a month before collapsing, there is an abandoned house on the other block and there was a piece of drywall on the floor and it resisted for a whole month the rain and all the harsh weather before turning into crap.

So I find pretty hard to find such a monster steel based structure can collapse because of fire, and humanity has never seen something like that.

Time and time again, the metal skeletons of skyscrapers have stood following fires. The falsers want us to believe that 9/11 broke the mold. The reality is those towers were demo'd. We know for a fact Building 7 was demo'd. Oh, but we're supposed to believe that the impact of the plane in another building made it so weak that it just fell. Yea, even the WTC Commission knew they couldn't pass off that bull ; so, they just skipped it.

[Pavlov]

What? He had to pay his bills like everyone else? Spare me the false narrative. And he certainly bought it right before and got a however many billions in insurance off of it.

How many billions did he net off the destruction of the entire complex?

Yea, the LS that didn't show up to the WTC on 9/11 and the same LS that told his family members not to show up either.

link to his telling the family?

And LS is the guy who openly admitted that he told them to demo WTC building 7. That's fact. Naturally, he has avoided talking about that after realizing he implicated himself.

Tell me -- how do firemen implode buildings on site?

This is what happens with truthers. They get all excited and say "wellwhataboutthisandwhataboutthat" and get really angry when asked simple questions about it.

But I'll bite -- walk me through Silverstein's plan and how he carried it out.

[Pavlov]

Time and time again, the metal skeletons of skyscrapers have stood following fires. The falsers want us to believe that 9/11 broke the mold. The reality is those towers were demo'd. We know for a fact Building 7 was demo'd. Oh, but we're supposed to believe that the impact of the plane in another building made it so weak that it just fell. Yea, even the WTC Commission knew they couldn't pass off that bull ; so, they just skipped it.

"for a fact"

In your opinion, why and how was WTC7 intentionally demolished?