Trump's gone Neo-Con.

**midnightpulp** · 08-21-2017

About the only thing I agreed with the orange buffoon on was his anti-war position, and was hoping he'd keep his promise to bring our guys home. Nope.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politi...egy/index.html

The "base" doesn't like it, either, since neo-conservatism is very much a globalist agenda. Bannon is going on the offensive.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ut-not-losing/

I knew the man I voted for 'loved' Israel but now I'm afraid it's more serious than that.....Israel wants us in Afghanistan.....and in Syria......and in Iraq.....for decades to come. Trump is owned by Israel and it sickens me to post it. If you disagree....pay closer attention over the next year or so.

I absolutely Can't believe President Trump is sending 4000 more troops into this God forsaken land. He was baited and took the bait. Stupid, idiotic move at best. I love President Trump, but he is listening to the WRONG people. SOMEONE 'credible' needs to get to him FAST.

Make the Military Industrial Complex Great Again!

#MMICGA

(Doesn't have the same ring to it as MAGA, I know

)

**boutons_deux** · 08-21-2017

Another campaign promise ignored.

**baseline bum** · 08-21-2017

Wait, are you saying Trump broke a campaign promise by doing the exact opposite?

**midnightpulp** · 08-21-2017

And what's left to accomplish there? Bin Laden dead. Mission Accomplished. Nation building there is a lost cause. After 16 years, not one Walmart has gone up and the Taliban controls more territory than ever.

I asked that question rhetorically, of course. Gotta keep the wheels of the MIC greased.

**boutons_deux** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by baseline bum

Wait, are you saying Trump broke a campaign promise by doing the exact opposite?

Trash tweeted dozens of times over the years that US must get out of Afghanistan.

**Down Under** · 08-21-2017

Well they can forget Syria, that's over - 'Moderate Rebels' gone, ISIS virtually defeated with help from Hezbollah on the border & almost a million people returned to Aleppo to their apparently 'tyrannical' democratically elected
dictator. Afghanistan is not even a country as such - fragmented, different tribes speaking different languages. If anyone is stupid enough to go through this crap again god help us.

**SnakeBoy** · 08-21-2017

lol your all doves now

**SnakeBoy** · 08-21-2017

I guess this means Code Pink will become antiwar again.

**Pelicans78** · 08-21-2017

Wasn't a bad speech, but his goals are gonna be real hard to accomplish. Pakistan's military doesn't support the Afghan government and getting India involved will only make the Pakistan military work with China and Russia and obstructing any peace process.

**Pavlov** · 08-21-2017

Surgin' SnakeBoy can't talk about the actual policy.

**Pavlov** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Wasn't a bad speech, but his goals are gonna be real hard to accomplish. Pakistan's military doesn't support the Afghan government and getting India involved will only make the Pakistan military work with China and Russia and obstructing any peace process.

Yeah, that raised a lot more questions than it answered.

**Pelicans78** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Yeah, that raised a lot more questions than it answered.

India's has been friendly with the Afghan government because they want to be strong allies which will put another Indian friendly neighbor on Pakistan's neighbor just like Iran because India needs a deterrent against the Pakistan-China alliance who both hate India.

But I don't ever see the Afghan gov't ever being strong enough to totally control the country. What's probably gonna happen is the Taliban will end up with partial control of the country.

**midnightpulp** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by SnakeBoy

lol your all doves now

I've always been a dove. But I was in favor of blowing the taliban to rubble following 9/11 for the bin laden connection. We did that, and bin laden is dead. Nothing more to do there except nation build, which won't take in Afghanistan.

Waste of lives.

**Pelicans78** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by midnightpulp

I've always been a dove. But I was in favor of blowing the taliban to rubble following 9/11 for the bin laden connection. We did that, and bin laden is dead. Nothing more to do there except nation build, which won't take in Afghanistan.

Waste of lives.

Even though Trump denies nation-building, this new strategy in the big picture is basically trying to save the current Afghan govt from the Taliban and terrorists.

**Pavlov** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by Pelicans78

India's has been friendly with the Afghan government because they want to be strong allies which will put another Indian friendly neighbor on Pakistan's neighbor just like Iran because India needs a deterrent against the Pakistan-China alliance who both hate India.

They have always been players, but calling for India to cooperate right after ting on Pakistan seems to encourage cooperation from neither.

But I don't ever see the Afghan gov't ever being strong enough to totally control the country. What's probably gonna happen is the Taliban will end up with partial control of the country.

That's always been the case, so attacking them a little bit more with US troops doesn't make a ton of sense.

**Pavlov** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Even though Trump denies nation-building, this new strategy in the big picture is basically trying to save the current Afghan govt from the Taliban and terrorists.

It sounded he was signaling to the Afghanis that he's fine with the rise of a dictatorship there.

**Thread** · 08-21-2017

Originally Posted by midnightpulp

And what's left to accomplish there? Bin Laden dead. Mission Accomplished. Nation building there is a lost cause. After 16 years, not one Walmart has gone up and the Taliban controls more territory than ever.

I asked that question rhetorically, of course. Gotta keep the wheels of the MIC greased.

I just hope he was guilty because he's dead as a door nail and due process was AWOL.