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Manu Ginobili has signed a two-year, $5 million deal to return to the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell The Vertical.
Ginobili, 40, returning to San Antonio on a fully guaranteed two-year deal.
Pop is stubborn, and Manu is even more stubborn.
Manu Ginobili has signed a two-year, $5 million deal to return to the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell The Vertical.
Ginobili, 40, returning to San Antonio on a fully guaranteed two-year deal.
biscuits, Pop.
Is the 5M total or 5M per?
Total. Just over the vet min for him ($2.33M). Guessing there is a player option in the 2nd year.
Waste of money. That would've been better off going to the troops
I told you he didn't say this was his last year!! He just said I'm coming back!
This guy has some serious stone
Manu is never retiring.
Two years
In two years,
Kawhi is going to be playing with two 40 year olds Latinos, a 35 year old fat starter, a 37 year old Parker and a 33 year old who cant dribble.
Go to LA kawhi
Gay and Ginobili had nothing to do with Hanga. They're top 8 rotation players, something he was never going to be. It's Paul who took his spot.
Not shocked, considering there was some indication (forgot where) a while back that this would be a 2 year contract. Still, it's strange not only for the fact that he's 40, but has repeatedly said since '14 that he'll take it a year at a time, yet 3 years later he's not only still playing, but signing a 2 year contract. Given that they could have paid him up to $11M for 1, it seems unlikely that he doesn't play it out.
They likely had an inkling of his intention going into the off season, which only makes the roster imbalance all the more bizarre. Now, should he prove ready, they lack a natural rotation spot for Murray for 2 years and White is buried. Even if he is useful, they'll be no way of knowing, which means it's already a wasted pick.
Go to LA kawhi
I bet he scores more than Green......Cheap contract, Vince Carter signed a 1 yr deal for 8 million
Basically one more year playing and another year prepping for an assistant coaching job.
Manu hadn't been a top-eight player by minutes played since 2014-2015. While I can agree Hanga would not have been expected to be the sixth man, that 10th spot that Manu has occupied recently was very much in play for him, Paul, Forbes and White/Murray. While I think the team should have tried investing in a legit guard, it's not like they had the money had Manu hung them up.
Both seasons, despite the micro-managing, Ginobili was 2nd in mpg among bench players to Mills. The only reason his total minutes were lower than many, was because he only played 58 and 69 games, respectively. Also, unlike the likes of Simmons, Anderson and Dedmon, he was never and will never be at risk out of falling out of the rotation under any cir stance. He was and is unequivocally top 8.
Yeah, 10th, as in the Simmons/Anderson spot; hence my comment about Paul (Simmons' replacement) taking Hanga's would be roster spot.
This is just semantics. Manu has one of the 15 spots. Had he not come back, one of those spots would have gone to someone else, be that Lee or another guard. Had there been no Manu, someone would have taken most of his minutes (likely Kawhi playing significantly more two), while someone else would have taken the smaller role. That person could have been Hanga. So whether you want to call that eighth or 10th is mostly irrelevant. What is true is that Manu took the back-up SG spot, which could have gone to a number of guys, including Hanga. Gay likely pushed Anderson to the back-up three spot, so in that regard, Kyle replaced Simmons' potential back-up SF role.
Manu is worth 10 million a season tbh....
AKA, you've been proven wrong but don't want to admit it.
Given the dearth of true bigs on the roster, Ginobili's spot likely would have went to one. Backup SG would have been an open compe ion: Murray (when Parker returns), Paul, White and to a lesser extent Forbes (poor fit with Mills).
Rotation wise, Gay replaces Lee and part of Dedmon (Lauvergne/Bertans replace the other part), Anderson replaces Simmons and Paul replaces Anderson.
what a discount! thank you Manu...
I'm pretty confident the Spurs would've signed Hanga instead of filling up a spot with London Perrantes if Hanga wasn't such a diva, tbh...
Had Manu retired the Spurs would have been looking for anyone with a very small budget to fill in.
He didn't so they weren't desperate.
One could assume if Manu had retired, the Spurs wouldn't have been so cavalier with Simmons' contract (no offers were ever made aside from the QO that was issued), or they would have gone after guys like Tyreke Evans and Hanga was also clearly in play or so he was led to believe by the Spurs. Regardless of how the minutes would have shaken out they were fair game and for the taking for any Spur wing/guard.
I assumed, once Simmons was let go, even without Manu announcing his return, that he was coming back. For his part Simmons also saw that his role and minutes wouldn't change and might have even decreased should one of the Spurs project guards pan out and eat into his role, in which he was very mediocre to bad for big parts of the season since he doesn't play well off the ball.
For Hanga, after leading him on (I assume bc uncertainties about Simmons and Ginobli, etc.) Spurs ultimately decided to pass up in him. With Manu coming back and Rudy in the fold they were not so desperate and felt comfortable filing inn the minutes gap with Kyle and a plethora of guards they will try out at rest games and injury games.
Rudy Gay will be mostly at SF, and Leonard will be mostly at SG by the end of the season. Gay at PF and LMA at center will be a disaster.
I do believe he got more in Europe than anything the Spurs were willing to pay him, for which I cannot fault him chasing. He's now too old to be taking cheap deals to make it. Either he's paid up at least compe ive with Europe or it doesn't make sense to him. It sounded like disappointment on his part. He appears to really have wanted to join the team but he wasn't going to do it on Brandon Paul or London Perrantes money.
It's unlikely to me they were offering him anything more than what they gave Bertans to begin with. They were shopping in the summer league bargain bin and passed over not just Hanga but a few wings/guards like Tyreke and others that were cheaply priced. They just weren't that desperate bc they knew Manu was 95% likely to come back at least + they had Rudy. It's really easy to fill in what happened.
Even if you believed the latter, given the roster composition, why would you believe the former?
As I said weeks ago, I suspect Gasol still generally starts, save for select match-ups (Warriors, Rockets, etc.), when Gay will. Expect Gay to sub in for Gasol around the 6 minute mark in the 1st and 3rd quarters and them to play mostly small thereafter, with Aldridge and Gasol often essentially alternating as the lone big. That gets both to roughly their mpg from last season and covers for the lack of established size off the bench.
Gay and Aldridge both have the physical tools of a PF and C though and will be fine in most match-ups playing those positions. The only concerns with it, are lack of defensive rebounding and roll man.
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