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    Another vaunted Republican principle abandoned just cuz.

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    But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

    @SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

    — Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017

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    But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

    @SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

    — Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017

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    Given that A, McCain is not up again until 2022 and B, the likelyhood of him not running again after his term is up and C, the fact that he is in a battle for his life right now are tell tale signs that his statement had nothing to do with being political.

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    But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

    @SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

    — Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017
    You really don't think Arpaio mistreated people or you just think they're s who deserved to be mistreated?

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    Trump’s Arpaio Pardon Was An Impeachable Offense According To The Founding Fathers

    According to the Founding Fathers, Trump's pardon of Joe Arpaio is an abuse of presidential pardoning power that is an impeachable offens

    Writing for Bloomberg, Cass Sunstein examined the writings of the Founding Fathers on the president’s impeachment powers:

    Gently, Madison pointed to “one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted.”

    The security was that “if the President be connected, in any su ious manner, with any person, and

    there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; [and]

    they can remove him if found guilty.”

    In Madison’s view, “This is a great security.”
    ….

    More broadly, Madison urged that if the president was merely “connected, in any su ious manner,” with someone who was engaged in wrongdoing, and

    if he decided to “shelter” (meaning pardon) him, then the president could be impeached.

    The president does have the power to pardon, but that power is not complete as Trump has suggested.

    The Founding Fathers expressed the belief that a president can be impeached for abusing his pardoning power.

    If Democrats take back the House, Trump’s pardon of Arpaio alone could be viewed as an impeachable offense.

    Donald Trump doesn’t have the unlimited presidential power that he thinks he does.

    His pardon of Arpaio was a disgrace to the presidency,

    but the even bigger question which the courts may someday have to resolve is, does a president have complete impeachment power?


    If the answer is no, Trump may have just pardoned his way into impeachment.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/...iticus+USA+%29



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    Trump’s Arpaio pardon will ‘encourage others’ to build concentration camps with his blessing

    pardoning of former Sheriff Joe Arpaio is an endorsement of concentration camps in the United States

    “Once Arpaio began neighborhood sweeps and traffic stops deliberately targeting Latinos, and

    then detaining them without charges,

    his whole enterprise tilted further toward being a concentration camp for that set of detainees,”

    “And even for those who had been convicted of crimes, it was a harrowing, often deadly experience.”

    “When it was just Arpaio and his deputies doing it, it was a freelance, loose-cannon operation.

    What happened yesterday is that the President of the United States put his position behind it and used executive power to bless these tactics,”

    “Historically, when this kind of thing has happened, it’s encouraged other people to take up the same tactics.”

    “I think that Tent City has been very successful,” Arpaio told Fox 10 in Phoenix during the 2016 election campaign.

    “Why would four presidential candidates come down here and stand next to me and say they will put tents up around the nation.”

    Arpaio thanked
    Alex Jones, Roger Stone and Matt Drudge for “reaching the president” to arrange the pardon.


    Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman argued that the pardon was an
    impeachable offense.


    The Arizona Republic today editorialized against Trump pardoning Arpaio.

    “The pardon was a sign of pure contempt for every American who believes in justice, human dignity and the rule of law,” Republic concluded.

    “By pardoning Arpaio,

    Trump made it clear that ins utional racism is not just OK with him.

    It is a goal.

    That should trouble every American who believes that our duty as a nation is to continue working on behalf of equal justice.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/trum...e+Raw+Story%29



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    You really don't think Arpaio mistreated people or you just think they're s who deserved to be mistreated?
    The latter.

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    I was asking Ducks you piece of white trash. Go jerk off to a Timothy McVeigh poster

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    I was asking Ducks you piece of white trash. Go jerk off to a Timothy McVeigh poster
    McVeigh just squared the house. That way we could all be friends again.

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    If people were treated in prison the way people should be they would be less crime. He had no repeat offenders. They broke the law now go to prison and earn money and watch tv. People knew in that country how he does things. You should visit Yuma territory priston. They were treated worse. And sometimes they saw no daylight. Oh no how did they survive? They cut down the crime.

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    If people were treated in prison the way people should be they would be less crime. He had no repeat offenders. They broke the law now go to prison and earn money and watch tv. People knew in that country how he does things. You should visit Yuma territory priston. They were treated worse. And sometimes they saw no daylight. Oh no how did they survive? They cut down the crime.
    ...that sentence structure

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    lol he pardoned someone of a misdemeanor Boo...you can relax.
    Are you on the Trump Cheerleader email list? How is it you're able to recite the talking points so quickly and accurately?

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    Trump is a criminal.

    Yet another case of obstruction of justice.


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    Are you on the Trump Cheerleader email list? How is it you're able to recite the talking points so quickly and accurately?
    Snakeboy is just trying to trigger the lib s IMO

    Either that or he's just like this guy now:


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    Lol I like this from in those replies. Pretty solid imo

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    It's never a good thing when a law enforcement officer becomes a celebrity, on the job.

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    Adam Schiff: Trump Telling Russia Witnesses to ‘Keep Quiet’ by Pardoning Arpaio


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    Arpaio action was appalling & political. It also sends message to witnesses in Russia investigation to keep quiet, stay loyal & get pardon.
    3:32 PM - Aug 26, 2017

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/adam...doning-arpaio/

    keep quiet?

    How about "perjure yourself to protect me, get convicted, don't worry, save my criminal ass, I'll pardon everybody"


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    A Top Historian On Fascism Just Issued A Chilling Warning About Trump’s Arpaio Pardon

    renowned author Charles Kaiser penned a brutal takedown of the President’s actions, calling them the “opening act of a cons utional crisis,” spelling out in no uncertain terms the challenge we’re now facing

    By pardoning a man convicted of criminal contempt for direct violation of a Federal order, Trump is now flaunting his eagerness to overturn the rule of law in America.

    I have never seen anyone who has acted more obviously guilty than Donald Trump has almost every single day since he became president.

    From his tete-a-tete with James Comey, in which he asked the FBI director to end his investigation of Michael Flynn,

    to his firing of the same man when he failed to heed that warning,

    to his newly-reported phone call to North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis to complain about a bill that would protect special counsel Robert Mueller’s independence,

    the president has engaged in one blatant attempt to obstruct justice after another.

    Kasier reveals what he believes is the real reason Trump

    pardoned Arpaio – to show his former campaign team members currently under the scrutiny of Special Counsel Mueller that he is willing to do the same for them too,

    so long as they keep silent as to what actually happened between the Trump campaign and agents of the Russian Federation:

    For many weeks, Washington has been swirling with rumors that Mueller already has secured the cooperation of Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort in his investigation of the president.

    And Trump undoubtedly is more vulnerable to the testimony of these two men than he is to that of any other players in this fearful drama.

    Therefore, Trump must feel compelled to

    send this message through Arpaio’s pardon:

    the president is eager and willing to do the same thing for anyone who might be pressured into testifying against him.

    The warning signs, says Kaiser, are all too familiar to him.


    I have a written a book about France under fascism, and what we are now experiencing is exactly what incipient fascism looks like.

    The combination of Trump’s relentless assaults on the free press, his open encouragement of Nazis — which is the only honest description of his initial refusal to condemn them — and now a pardon without even pretending to go through the normal channels of the Justice Department —

    these are all the acts of man who is blatantly defying his sacred pledge to uphold the Cons ution of the United States.

    He finishes with an ominous warning to the Republican Party, comparing them to the Vichy French who enabled the Nazi takeover of their nation and the genocide of French Jews.

    Like the men and women of Vichy France who began their collaboration with the Nazis seventy-seven years ago,

    from now on, every senator and House member of either party who continues to remain silent about this president’s uncons utional acts is directly complicit in the high crimes and misdemeanors of Donald Trump.

    Senator Lindsay Graham already has said that the firing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions would mean the beginning of the end of Trump’s presidency.

    It is long past time for all of Graham’s colleagues in both houses to declare that the same thing will be true if the president dares to repeat the horrific abuse of his pardon power that we witnessed last night.

    Otherwise, America is destined for an era of violence and darkness unlike any we have ever witnessed since the end of the Civil War, one hundred and fifty-two years ago.

    http://verifiedpolitics.com/top-historian-fascism-just-issued-chilling-warning-trumps-arpaio-pardon/


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    The Ethics Chief Who Resigned Just Called Out The Entire White House Over Arpaio Pardon



    Every one of you WH staffers owns this disgusting unamerican racist pro-authoritarian gesture forever like it was tattooed on your forehead.
    — Walter Shaub (@waltshaub)
    August 26, 2017

    Vile!! What POTUS says "exemplifies selfless public service" is: dehumanizing inmates, racial profiling, and gleefully defying a court order
    — Walter Shaub (@waltshaub)
    August 26, 2017

    This pardon also departs from procedural norms. And as an affirmative act by POTUS, it reveals an emboldening. A harbinger of worse to come.
    — Walter Shaub (@waltshaub)
    August 26, 2017

    http://verifiedpolitics.com/ethics-chief-resigned-just-called-entire-white-house-arpaio-pardon/


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