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    Chris still adding to det 300+ posts ITT.

    So triggered.

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    I dont know if Trump is lucky or unlucky. The disaster going on has given the cuck political cover.

    At the same time, it's bound to catch up with him.

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    Went from:

    Russians hacked the elections to

    Russians met with DJR to

    Russians might have sneaky business deals with Trump to

    Please God let it be Mueller time to

    FML

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    Now Hurricane Harvey is involved in Lib 's conspiracy

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    Went from:

    Russians hacked the elections to

    Russians met with DJR to

    Russians might have sneaky business deals with Trump to

    Please God let it be Mueller time to

    FML
    It didn't go anywhere from the first three. Those are being investigated.

    Do you actually know anything about this, Chris?

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    Now Hurricane Harvey is involved in Lib 's conspiracy
    Well, it was going to be a late Friday news dump regardless. Harvey made it the perfect late Friday news dump.

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    Went from:

    Russians hacked the elections to

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    Russians might have sneaky business deals with Trump to

    Please God let it be Mueller time to

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    True story...

    He's still being investigated for all 3 and then some.

    Obstruction of justice is also a key part of the investigation.

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    Court Admits DNC, Wasserman Schultz Rigged Primaries For Hillary
    It's clear whoever wrote this didn't go to law school

    The court makes assumptions like that based on the state of the case, not as a factual finding. For instance, if a party files a motion todismiss , the court will look at the evidence most favorably to the non-moving party.

    The court held that assumption because the question was whether the lawyers has proper standing. In making thedecision , the court doesn't concern the factual merits of the case and assumes them to be true so as to not confuse the true issue (merits of the case vs proper standing)

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    It's clear whoever wrote this didn't go to law school

    The court makes assumptions like that based on the state of the case, not as a factual finding. For instance, if a party files a motion todismiss , the court will look at the evidence most favorably to the non-moving party.

    The court held that assumption because the question was whether the lawyers has proper standing. In making thedecision , the court doesn't concern the factual merits of the case and assumes them to be true so as to not confuse the true issue (merits of the case vs proper standing)
    Appreciate the clarification as always 21. Did you make that bar exam your ?

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    Appreciate the clarification as always 21. Did you make that bar exam your ?
    Took it on July 25-26, results come in November 17. Working as a law clerk in the meantime.

    As further clarification, one of the elements of establishing standing is "injury in fact." So for the purpose of determining standing, thr court will always assume thr allegations are true so they can determine if the alleged actions are enough to grant standing.

    So if I try to sue you for being a turd and my allegation is that you posted stupid memes, the court will hold the assumption that you actually did post stupid memes. But the court would probably determine that my allegations wouldn't rise to an "injury in fact" and I wouldn't have standing to sue

    It would be really stupid if that happened, the court dismissed that lawsuit, and then I claimed victory by saying "the court assumed your memes are stupid!!!"

    That's exactly what that article did though... "Court admits dnc rigged"

    I thought Shapiro, an actual lawyer, runs that site? Odd that he allows such crap to be published

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    David Frum
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    Employees of a candidate for US president directly appealing to a foreign dictator for help securing a huge cash payout to their boss
    1:40 PM - Aug 28, 2017



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    While the boss is actively trying to reorient US foreign policy in the dictator’s favor. Kinda puts Teapot Dome & Watergate in perspective

    https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/902239402230931456 …

    1:42 PM - Aug 28, 2017

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    Took it on July 25-26, results come in November 17. Working as a law clerk in the meantime.

    As further clarification, one of the elements of establishing standing is "injury in fact." So for the purpose of determining standing, thr court will always assume thr allegations are true so they can determine if the alleged actions are enough to grant standing.

    So if I try to sue you for being a turd and my allegation is that you posted stupid memes, the court will hold the assumption that you actually did post stupid memes. But the court would probably determine that my allegations wouldn't rise to an "injury in fact" and I wouldn't have standing to sue

    It would be really stupid if that happened, the court dismissed that lawsuit, and then I claimed victory by saying "the court assumed your memes are stupid!!!"

    That's exactly what that article did though... "Court admits dnc rigged"

    I thought Shapiro, an actual lawyer, runs that site? Odd that he allows such crap to be published
    Cool. I actually learned something.

    Thanks.

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    Time to start working on the "obstruction of justice is no big deal" fallback talking point.

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    I bet Mueller's team goes with both obstruction of justice and

    what crime(s) investigation(s)Trash, etc they were trying to obstruct.

    Stone says there will be shooting civil war if Trash is impeached and convicted.

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    Time to start working on the "obstruction of justice is no big deal" fallback talking point.
    True story...

    Obstruction of justice is also a key part of the investigation.
    Where's Chrisy? Taking a nap?

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    Trump trying to pardon his way out of Russia scandal would be ‘stupidest’ possible plan: legal experts

    multiple legal experts tell Vox that such a strategy would be the “stupidest” course of action that he’s taken so far, as it would rip down key legal barriers that are protecting the president and his team during the investigation.

    “If President Trump pardons subjects of Mueller’s investigation,

    they will be unable to claim their Fifth Amendment rights if they are asked to testify under oath,”

    explains Asha Rangappa, an associate dean at Yale Law School.

    “In theory, this would then facilitate Mueller’s investigation, as these individuals would have to tell Mueller everything they know.”

    “If the President pardons anyone involved in the Russian investigation, it may prove to be one of the stupidest things he has yet done,”

    says Georgetown University law professor Julie O’Sullivan.

    “If — and this is a big if — the president is shown to have pardoned them to avoid his own personal exposure in the Russia investigation, that in and of itself could cons ute obstruction of justice.”

    one expert tells Vox that Trump does have a way to pardon people involved in the investigation while still escaping legal consequences — but it involves him stepping down and relying on new President Mike Pence to pardon him.

    “Trump pardons them as he is exiting the White House and Trump exits early, allowing Pence to become president, and Pence then pardons Trump,” explains Georgetown University law professor Susan Bloch. “Trump will then have successfully shielded himself and his colleagues from criminal liability.”

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    Repugs' political hack busy blocking, politicizing the CIA

    Mike Pompeo 'aggressively challenging analysts' displaying 'fierce partisanship' to defend Trump

    director Mike Pompeo is showing everyone how to stay on the good side of Trump.

    As CIA director, Mike Pompeo has taken a special interest in an agency unit that is closely tied to the investigation into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, requiring the Counterintelligence Mission Center to report directly to him.

    Officials at the center have, in turn, kept a watchful eye on Pompeo, who has repeatedly played down Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and demonstrated a willingness to engage in political skirmishes for President Trump.


    A willingness to overlook Russian espionage isn’t usually the kind of property that makes a good CIA director.

    But it does seem to be exactly what Trump is looking for.

    And now the CIA is stuck in a position where one of its greatest threats is … the CIA director.

    “People have to watch him,” said a U.S. official who, like others, requested anonymity to speak frankly. “It’s almost as if he can’t resist the impulse to be political.”


    But rather than defend the agency, Pompeo has determined to defend Trump even in the face of evidence.

    Pompeo is also known for berating subordinates, aggressively challenging agency analysts and displaying the fierce partisanship that became his signature while serving as a GOP member of Congress.


    The partisan nature of Pompeo’s approach has led to the agency giving more attention to leaks and attacking its own conclusions.

    When asked about Russian election interference,

    Pompeo often becomes testy and

    recites talking points that seem designed to appease a president

    who rejects the allegations as “fake news” conjured by Democrats to delegitimize his election win.

    “It is true” that Russia interfered in the 2016 election, Pompeo said at Aspen,

    “and the one before that, and the one before that . . . ”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...tail=emaildkre
    Pompeo will try to muffle the CIA report, just like Perry is muffling EPA scientists and reports.

    Oligarchy/Repugs running the country like a 3rd world dictatorship
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    Went from:

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    these demore s cant be stupider yet they keep trying

    So now because Trump wanted to build a building on Russia soil therefore he colluded with them to win the presidency

    Even plots to Naked Gun movies are more coherent

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    he is following the money.


    very exciting!

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    he is following the money.

    !
    So was Pacman the video game character

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    So the L brigade is still trying to scoff at the idea of the Trump campaign's colluding with the Russian government to influence the election even though the Trump campaign admits it met with agents of the Russian government to collude about influencing the election.

    Meanwhile, hater says the CIA gave Chavez cancer and Chris says laser beams destroyed WTC 6.

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