DACA - Will Trash kill it?

[clambake]

if illegal they should not be automatic usa citizen
better be in bill!

duck bill!

[RandomGuy]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca...0-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.

DACA deportations could cost US economy more than $400 billion

rump's decision to remove of hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from the workforce could cost the economy hundreds of billions of dollars over the next 10 years.
The Trump administration announced the "wind down" over the next six months of the DACA program, which shields some 800,000 young immigrants from deportation.
Unless Congress acts to replace the Obama-era program with similar protections, those people would no longer be allowed to work in the U.S.

[RandomGuy]

duck bill!

[rimshot]

[Thread]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca...0-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.

Big damn deal. They'll do what Bush/Clinton/Bush/Hussein did:::they'll go back into the back room & print some more.

[boutons_deux]

Barry -slaps Trash, Sessions, and all you less, racist white male losers, Nazis, bubbas, rednecks, KKK

"Immigration can be a controversial topic.

We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules.


But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about.

This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag.

These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper.

They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants.

They may not know a country besides ours.

They may not even know a language besides English.

They often have no idea they’re undo ented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license.

Over the years, politicians of

both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people –

that if your parents brought you here as a child,

if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and

if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military,

then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship.

And for years while I was President,

I asked Congress to send me such a bill.

That bill never came. (Repugs need campaign issues, like hate, xenophobia, guns, Sharia, LGBT)

And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.

We did so

based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike,

because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm.

Deportations of criminals went up.

Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks.

And America grew stronger as a result.

But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again.

To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love.

And it is cruel.

What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer?

Where are we supposed to send her?

To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak?
ind Out More >

Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally.

It’s a political decision, and a moral question.

Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general,

we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people

who are here through no fault of their own,

who pose no threat,

who are not taking away anything from the rest of us.

They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance.

Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages.

It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today.

And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future.

I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should.

And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel.

Ultimately, this is about basic decency. (iow, it's about basic Repug INdecency)

This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be.

What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray.

What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation.

That’s how America has traveled this far.

That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union."

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/0...daca-decision/

[ducks]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/daca...0-billion.html

CNBC tallies the cost to the economy.

BULL

[Thread]

Barry -slaps Trash, Sessions, and all you less, racist white male losers, Nazis, bubbas, rednecks, KKK

"Immigration can be a controversial topic.

We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules.


But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about.

This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag.

These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper.

They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants.

They may not know a country besides ours.

They may not even know a language besides English.

They often have no idea they’re undo ented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license.

Over the years, politicians of

both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people –

that if your parents brought you here as a child,

if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and

if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military,

then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship.

And for years while I was President, I asked Congress to send me such a bill.
That bill never came. (Repugs need campaign issues, like hate, xenophobia, guns, Sharia, LGBT)

And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country.

We did so

based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike,

because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm.

Deportations of criminals went up.

Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks.

And America grew stronger as a result.

But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again.

To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love.

And it is cruel.

What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer?

Where are we supposed to send her?

To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak?

Find Out More >

Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally.

It’s a political decision, and a moral question.

Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general,

we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people

who are here through no fault of their own,

who pose no threat,

who are not taking away anything from the rest of us.

They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance.

Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages.

It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today.

And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future.

I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should.

And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel.

Ultimately, this is about basic decency. (iow, it about basic Repug INdecency)

This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be.

What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray.

What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation.

That’s how America has traveled this far.

That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union."

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/0...daca-decision/

Hussein is a piece of PERIOD

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

um... okay.

[RandomGuy]

BULL

Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?

[ducks]

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

[RandomGuy]

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

[ducks]

PRESIDENTS CAN NOT CHANGE IMAGRATION LAW FORMER PRESIDENT
HAD YOU GOT CONGRESS TO ACT LIKE TRUMP IS GOING YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT

[ducks]

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

BULL

Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

Are they going to be "placing orders" for new or existing houses from anywhere?

[ducks]

I hope they find a place to stay once they get a vista or green card
if not people are moving in all the time to replace the ones getting kicked out for breaking the law

[Trill Clinton]

this is a necessary move to get those steel mills up and running. all those toothless, jobless hicks who voted trump will have their jobs back in no time.

[ducks]

do people collect the cost of the economy when throwing a person in jail?
per person ?


I mean in prison they are not going to rent an aparment

[RandomGuy]

CNBC tallies up the economic damage from potential DACA deportations, costs get into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

BULL

Do you understand that businesses with fewer customers don't sell as much stuff, right?

orders can be placed online you know from anywhere

(sighs heavily)

How about orders for apartments?

Are landlords going to be able to take orders "from anywhere" for that?

how about getting a visa and coming back legally
who says they are renting could be buying houses

Are they going to be placing online orders for gasoline?

... breakfast?

groceries?

Kind of hard to deliver milk via Fed-ex.

[ducks]

if these people leave others will get those jobs and be able to spend money and get the other people off food stamps

[ducks]

Are they going to be placing online orders for gasoline?

... breakfast?

groceries?

Kind of hard to deliver milk via Fed-ex.

Yuma az delivers milk to people and other foods

[RandomGuy]

do people collect the cost of the economy when throwing a person in jail?
per person ?


I mean in prison they are not going to rent an aparment

Man, you are making less sense than usual.

Sorry I asked.

Carry on then.

[ducks]

if these 800k are very talented people they would be buying houses not renting
lol playing the landlord card

[RandomGuy]

Yuma az delivers milk to people and other foods

So how far is this gallon of milk going to be shipped? Honduras?



Dumb ass.

[ducks]

do you think the 250 people working for apple are renting a house or buying a house

[RandomGuy]

if these 800k are very talented people they would be buying houses not renting
lol playing the landlord card

LOL

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