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    So looking at the last 18 MVP Winners, what MVP winner won its award with mostly narrative, Stat-padding, Race...

    1. Nash second MVP...

    - The Suns won 54 games that year, signficantly less than Dirks and Duncans team. In Addition James was a monster stat-wise and beat Nash in many advanced categories and was only 4 wins shy of the suns...How Dirk or Lebron didnt win those awards considering they had a decent combination of stats and wins specially dirk is beyond me.

    2. Westbrook - 47 Wins...enough said, one of the most fabricated and selfish display of basketballI have seen in my life. Not evem Kome can top it off.

    3. Kome....Probably one of the most underwhelming MVP winners in recent years.

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    Reality TV. Doesn't matter.

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    Derrick Rose.

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    So looking at the last 18 MVP Winners, what MVP winner won its award with mostly narrative, Stat-padding, Race...

    1. Nash second MVP...

    - The Suns won 54 games that year, signficantly less than Dirks and Duncans team. In Addition James was a monster stat-wise and beat Nash in many advanced categories and was only 4 wins shy of the suns...How Dirk or Lebron didnt win those awards considering they had a decent combination of stats and wins specially dirk is beyond me.

    2. Westbrook - 47 Wins...enough said, one of the most fabricated and selfish display of basketballI have seen in my life. Not evem Kome can top it off.

    3. Kome....Probably one of the most underwhelming MVP winners in recent years.
    Translation:

    1. I hate whitey
    2. I love sucking Kawhi's .
    3. I'm Lebron jocker through and through.

    Today's player fan

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    1. Kobe - giving MVP to a role player for marketing purposes will never not be pathetic.

    2. Nash's second MVP - gifted to him instead of LeBron because he's white.

    3. Nash's first MVP - gifted to him instead of Shaq because he's white.

    Dishonorable mentions:

    Rose - the "I Hate LeBron" award, brought to you by the same old white sportswriters who gifted Nash his MVPs. He wasn't even the best anti-LeBron choice that year

    Russell in '62 - I like Russell more than most, but in no way did he deserve it over Wilt that year.
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    sure, but rose checked the marks even though Lebron was clearly the mvp...lots of wins and good stats.

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    sure, but rose checked the marks even though Lebron was clearly the mvp...lots of wins and good stats.
    Nah, his stats were for MVP level and his true influence on the team was even tier.

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    Curry has to be #1. TBH

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    Curry has to be #1. TBH
    Nash would take his game to a higher level in the playoffs. Curry shrank like a pre KD. Two MVPs and none in the Finals

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    Nash would take his game to a higher level in the playoffs. Curry shrank like a pre KD. Two MVPs and none in the Finals
    dont ever compare curry to nash..

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    dont ever compare curry to nash.
    Curry would be a guard coming off the bench overnight if the NBA got rid of the three point line.

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    Curry would be a guard coming off the bench overnight if the NBA got rid of the three point line.
    You just hate him cause he aint full white...No need to deny it, terrorist.

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    You just hate him cause he aint full white...No need to deny it, terrorist.
    Schtick.

    Actually, Curry was one of my top three favorite players coming out of college in the last decade, brah. I do find it funny that you're suddenly on his nuts, though.

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    Curry would be a guard coming off the bench overnight if the NBA got rid of the three point line.
    So then in a parallel universe.....

    Bull

    Curry deserved the MVP. He was the most feared player in the game, most unstoppable because of his range. It doesn't matter if it's because he can jump over you or shoot over you, he can score.

    Nash deserved it because the times he was out his team went s up, and when he returned so did they, then they dominated the RS. He was a phenomenal passer, great shooter, great ball handler and fearless. People undervalue him because he never rang, but Nash was a phenomenal player.

    Rose deserved it the year he won, Lebron deserved it every year he's played, at least an argument could be made for him, but Rose was a beast that year before he got injured in the 1st round.

    Revisionist history is pretty rife on this forum.

    Westbrook didn't deserve it this year. Kawhi Leonard did. It's already a farce so just roll with it.

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    Curry deserved the MVP. He was the most feared player in the game, most unstoppable because of his range. It doesn't matter if it's because he can jump over you or shoot over you, he can score.
    I never said that Curry didn't deserve his MVPs. Though, I'll say that much like the Warriors' success, everything just fell ever so wonderfully into place and that he is basically the weakest back to back MVP in league history; and he'll never win another MVP; you can take that to the bank.

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    I never said that Curry didn't deserve his MVPs. Though, I'll say that much like the Warriors' success, everything just fell ever so wonderfully into place and that he is basically the weakest back to back MVP in league history; and he'll never win another MVP; you can take that to the bank.
    Bull with a guarantee is just guaranteed bull

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    Bull with a guarantee is just guaranteed bull
    Curry ain't winning an MVP on the north side of 30. Even Kerr dogged him and said he wasn't the most valuable player on his own team.

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    Curry ain't winning an MVP on the north side of 30. Even Kerr dogged him and said he wasn't the most valuable player on his own team.
    Surely you're not that naive.

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    Surely you're not that naive.
    I booked it, bro. Straight cash.

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    1. Kobe - giving MVP to a role player for marketing purposes will never not be pathetic.

    2. Nash's second MVP - gifted to him instead of LeBron because he's white.

    3. Nash's first MVP - gifted to him instead of Shaq because he's white.

    Dishonorable mentions:

    Rose - the "I Hate LeBron" award, brought to you by the same old white sportswriters who gifted Nash his MVPs. He wasn't even the best anti-LeBron choice that year

    Russell in '62 - I like Russell more than most, but in no way did he deserve it over Wilt that year.

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    Can't pick 3 of, in chronological order: '01 Iverson, '05 and '06 Nash, '08 Bryant, '11 Rose, '17 Westbrook.

    Notice the trend: all guards and save for Bryant, small ones at that. They almost always win on narrative because they're supposedly more relatable and often average more points than the others in the running.

    The reality is, this has and always will be a game primarily dominated by size, even if the function and utilization of it has mostly changed. Paul and Curry are the only small guards, in the modern era at least, who have ever truly been MVP caliber players.
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    Didn't DMC call Curry an overrated chucker?

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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    Can't pick 3 of, in chronological order: '01 Iverson, '05 and '06 Nash, '08 Bryant, '11 Rose, '17 Westbrook.

    Notice the trend: all guards and save for Bryant, small ones at that. They almost always win on narrative because they're supposedly more relatable and often average more points than the others in the running.

    The reality is, this has and always will be a game primarily dominated by size, even if the function and utilization of it has mostly changed. Paul and Curry are the only small guards, in the modern era at least, who have ever truly been MVP caliber players.
    Yup..

    The last three MVPS have all been PGs with rose winning in 11.

    meanwhile SF's have been dominating the playoffs and wings, in general, have been far more vital to team success than little guys.

    Still can't wrap my head around someone averaging less than 20ppg for a 54 team considering Lebron and and Dirk season in 2006..

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    Yup..

    The last three MVPS have all been PGs with rose winning in 11.

    meanwhile SF's have been dominating the playoffs and wings, in general, have been far more vital to team success than little guys.

    Still can't wrap my head around someone averaging less than 20ppg for a 54 team considering Lebron and and Dirk season in 2006..
    I've heard countless times in the past half decade that "it's a PG driven league", but it's really a big wing (even if some do function as de facto PG's on offense) driven league and before that, it was a big driven league.

    Nash was a wet dream come to life for the majority of the media. The only thing that could have made him more appealing to them, would have been if he were American.

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    I've heard countless times in the past half decade that "it's a PG driven league", but it's really a big wing (even if some do function as de facto PG's on offense) driven league and before that, it was a big driven league.

    Nash was a wet dream come to life for the majority of the media. The only thing that could have made him more appealing to them, would have been if he were American.
    refresh my memory bro, but how in the world did Dirk not win MVP in 06? What was the narrative?

    61 wins, 26.6 PPG, 9RPG, 40-49-90 split and played 81 total games...
    54 wins, 18.8, 10.5 Assist, 43-50-90 split and 79 total games

    and that 50 win Lebron James team...

    Dirk had a virutal 40-50-90 season at 26.6 with a 61 win team...

    Not to mention by most standards, Nash had a of a team but only 64.

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