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The Cavs trading Brooklyn's unprotected pick for ing Danny Green
Might as well ask for LeBron too
Apparently Cleveland is shopping the pick and going all in this season.
Possible top 5 pick.
What would you be willing to give up?
They need an impact player and Green & Crowder would give them defensive options in a G/S match-up.
We would need to take back salary and probably throw in slowmo or bertans.
Might as well ask for LeBron too
This should be good.
The Spurs have nothing of value to trade. This should be well known by now?!
The thing is that cle and needs an impact player for next season. They are championship or bust and need to move the pick for a player that can match up against G/S
That player must be able to play defense and make threes.
Green is championship tested and Bertans as a backup stretch 4 would be great for them also.
Name me a better defensive wing they can get with the pick ?
Danny + Bertans and taking back shumpert is pretty damn close imo
Last edited by ceds; 09-05-2017 at 10:16 AM.
The only guy to trade for a potential top draft pick would be Kawhi and he's not for trade.
If Cavs are going all in they are looking for an impact star
They won't get a star player with the pick.
They could have gotten a star on a bad team like Butler or George, but those guys are gone. They can still do a of a lot better than Danny Green though.
They'd easily get Melo for it.
lma did not work this offseason for top 5 pick
Danny "I can't dribble and the club is more important than working on my game" Green
Danny "I can't dribble and the club is more important than working on my game" Green
Pick is probably closer 5- 10 range. The bottom of the east is an wasteland.
I'd be fine with:
Spurs Get
Channing Frye (trade salary filler)
Cedi Osman
Cavs's 2018 1st Round Pick (25-30, most likely)
Cavs Get
Danny Green
Bryn Forbes
Spurs get a second 2018 1st round pick on top of Osman who is a solid prospect. Fyre is redundant but gives the Spurs another big and also disposable salary to include in a trade at the 2018 trade deadline.
Cavs get another 3 and D player to play along side Lebron and allows them to better matchup with GSW. Improves the team while also allowing them to keep the Nets pick or trade it for more help this year.
Eye roll. If you want to speculate what on the roster gets you a potential lottery pick, just ask. But Cavs aren't shopping that pick to go "all in." Please. They specifically wanted the pick because they know LeBron is leaving next offseason and that they will be rebuilding.
I don't think there are any stars left to be had, especially sense Hayward, Thomas, Kyrie,, PG13, and Butler-all five of them all stars switched teams. Also the 2011 Draft was ridiculous (Kawhi, Kyrie, Klay, I.T. Butler, Draymond, & Tristan Thompson)
Well the speculation and talk atm is that they will move in pick in order to go all-In for Lebron's final season . The thinking being that If they ring then he will stay. (Lebrons team is also pushing this agenda)Eye roll. If you want to speculate what on the roster gets you a potential lottery pick, just ask. But Cavs aren't shopping that pick to go "all in." Please. They specifically wanted the pick because they know LeBron is leaving next offseason and that they will be rebuilding.
This is different then trying to move LMA before the draft because PhX are a rebuilding team and wanted young assets.
Cleveland need a player that can play next season . He must be a top level defender and shoot threes. Name me the better options for them in a G/S match-up they could get then Green + bertans?
Also as someone else said the pick is projected 5 - 10 but could of course go higher. In any case it would be the highest pick the spurs have had to work with since Duncan.
Lets assume Cle accepted the trade.
Would you guys be ok downgrading for a season for the potential in a so-so draft?
Last edited by ceds; 09-05-2017 at 06:00 PM.
No.
Even if it were possible, the trade doesn't make sense for the Spurs. They are a team that is as much in win now mode as Cleveland is, with as many old guys as they have...
Spurs only shopped Danny for Kyrie Irving. I don't think they would take in exchange for Danny a blank check this season for a player coming next season in an unknown scenario where Spurs don't know the pick or player ahead of time.
In addition to Danny, you are offering Bertans. He currently projects as a rotation player, even if he wasn't one last season. That's so much the case that the Spurs only added a post Achilles injury Rudy Gay this off-season and a marginal big in Lauvergene, while losing minutes from a rotation wing (Simmons) and 2 quality bigs last season. It seems to me that they expect Davis to play rotation minutes this season.
In summary, it's too much to trade 2 current rotation players who are on the young spectrum in an uber old team like the Spurs.
It's high risk high reward scenario but only tank teams take blind flyers like that. It would have been different if the trade was on draft night and Spurs could evaluate the player they were getting back, etc a d could use said player this season.
Im only adding Bertans because the board is laughing at my green for the pick and salary dump scenario.
Tbh i think Cle would make the trade for green straight up. Danny would thrive playing with lebron
maybe if we swapped 1st's also
They'll take Aldridge and Rasho plus our pick for that pick.
Lebron won't leave in the offseason IF the Cavs win the ship. If they lose, he's gone 90%. If they win the ship, he stays 100%.
So, you'd be fine with throwing away the season for some crap.
Forbes is too valuable. Throw in Fathead
I don't think Danny by himself is worth an upper echelon pick either. If he were, he might have already been traded frankly in this past draft.
Greens important but he's not absolutely vital. Adding a second first and a solid prospect for Green is a solid return.
Murray-Mills-Parker
Gay-Manu
Leonard-Anderson
Aldridge-Bertans
Gasol-Lauvergne
That's probably still a 55 win team and at least a trip to the semi's
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