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    not sure about water temps but the temperatures of the la udes are just as much a contributing factor.
    Last edited by rjv; 09-06-2017 at 12:11 PM.

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    Your claim that gulf water temps are due to global warming is the kind of crap that gives climate science a bad name. There is no justification for your claim. Current water temps are well within the normal range of variability.
    Be happy to admit I was wrong, I just remember reading something, but couldn't find it later. Feel free to provide some actual data I can see. Most of what I see on a quick search is too technical for casual reading/summation.

    I do know that overall oceanic heat content has been going up, and up, and up.

    Be happy to flesh that out in great detail if you want, and that heat is most definitely due to global warming, whether you want to quibble about terminology or not.

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    Tracks now have it rolling up Florida, and rolling along the coast.


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    Will grifter evangelists spew that Mar-a-Lago is destroyed because God simply wants to test the strength of their God-chosen hero?

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    I'm in central florida like 30 miles north of tampa. people already going nuts at the grocery store with the water and such.
    Best to buy a couple of large water containers like you find at academy or some camping store. Fill up with tap water at the last minute.
    I have one 7 gallon container for a family of four, and might get a second. 1/2 gallon a day per adult (3, given the size of my 1st) and a bit less than that for the 11 year old. 3 day supply, if there is nothing in the taps.

    Back up is having the ability to boil the water (camp stove or gas grill), or really weak beer like bud light or michelob ultra. Forget the bull about alcohol being a diuretic. It is, but consider what the stuff is dissolved in (hint: the alcohol is dissolved in something that rhymes with "mah-ter".)

    A few chlorine tablets or camping water purification systems works wonders too.

    Much easier than buying bottled water.

    If you don't need the water afterwards, I just use it to flush the toilets after the worst is over.

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    Not that I have given the issue much thought... heh.

    Our city didn't have clean water for a week or so after the flooding, if I remember correctly.

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    Will grifter evangelists spew that Mar-a-Lago is destroyed because God simply wants to test the strength of their God-chosen hero?
    I hope that building is wiped off the map. It would save the taxpayers a lot of money.

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    I'm in central florida like 30 miles north of tampa. people already going nuts at the grocery store with the water and such.
    you're actually in a /comfy/ spot then. The storm will have calmed down a little once it gets to your area, but I would make sure you have a full tank of gas and enough nonperishables for atleast a week without power. That's about what I did for Harvey but I was woefully underprepared with generators and like that. Make sure to have booze to enjoy the hurricane time off

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    Be happy to admit I was wrong, I just remember reading something, but couldn't find it later. Feel free to provide some actual data I can see. Most of what I see on a quick search is too technical for casual reading/summation.

    I do know that overall oceanic heat content has been going up, and up, and up.

    Be happy to flesh that out in great detail if you want, and that heat is most definitely due to global warming, whether you want to quibble about terminology or not.
    i'm curious about the jet streams and the planetary waves. more static jet streams have yielded some rather catastrophic climate events over the past few years.

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    i'm curious about the jet streams
    Jetstream position, movement is shown only rarely on nightly local weather news. It's one of the best macro-weather indicators.

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    Jetstream position, movement is shown only rarely on nightly local weather news. It's one of the best macro-weather indicators.
    I should have been more clear in my post. I have read some articles on how the planetary waves (Rossby waves) have been impacted by greenhouse gases because the effects of the gases have been to cause the waves to linger longer over certain regions. In other words, we are seeing more "stuck" patterns like the one we saw with Harvey. This is the same effect that was responsible for a Siberian drought and floods in Pakistan in the summer of 2010.

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    Trash has unarguably declined in articulation, vocab, phrasing, idea density over the past several years, an indication that his brain is ed and un able.

    eg:

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    Trump on Hurricane Irma:

    "It looks like it could be something that will be not good.

    Believe me.

    Not good."

    (CNN)
    10:35 AM - Sep 6, 2017

    video: http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/0...urricane-irma/


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    I don't understand the buying of bottled water. Just tap it for a freakin' week.

    Christ, we're such followers.

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    I should have been more clear in my post. I have read some articles on how the planetary waves (Rossby waves) have been impacted by greenhouse gases because the effects of the gases have been to cause the waves to linger longer over certain regions. In other words, we are seeing more "stuck" patterns like the one we saw with Harvey. This is the same effect that was responsible for a Siberian drought and floods in Pakistan in the summer of 2010.
    That is the part that worries me most in terms of risk management: unintended consequences of unbalancing a very complex system that we don't fully understand.

    I have always likened it to poking a hibernating bear with a stick, and hoping nothing happens, or walking into an advanced spaceship and randomly flipping switches and pressing buttons.

    Sooner or later Something Bad is bound to happen.

    We understand enough to know that is happening now, and the ultimate damage will not be known for centuries.

    Humans are proven to be very bad at long term decision making from a physchological standpoint, and that is very clear when you start making arguments about risk mitigation and costs to people who haven't thought it through.

    There is a certain element of tribalism to it as well. Humans are very resistant to fact that contradict their pre-existing views from someone they perceive as outside their group.

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    Trash has unarguably declined in articulation, vocab, phrasing, idea density over the past several years, an indication that his brain is ed and un able.

    eg:

    Kyle Griffin
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    Trump on Hurricane Irma:

    "It looks like it could be something that will be not good.

    Believe me.

    Not good."

    (CNN)
    10:35 AM - Sep 6, 2017

    video: http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/0...urricane-irma/

    If only he could get our nuclear to tippy-top. That would free up a lot of resources for things. You know. Good things.


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    you're actually in a /comfy/ spot then. The storm will have calmed down a little once it gets to your area, but I would make sure you have a full tank of gas and enough nonperishables for atleast a week without power. That's about what I did for Harvey but I was woefully underprepared with generators and like that. Make sure to have booze to enjoy the hurricane time off
    And a boomstick for the looters

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    I don't understand the buying of bottled water. Just tap it for a freakin' week.

    Christ, we're such followers.

    If the water gets contaminated, the city will shut it off

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    I don't understand the buying of bottled water. Just tap it for a freakin' week.

    Christ, we're such followers.
    Yeah man, I just filled a bunch of one liter bottles (I have tons of them I use when hiking/camping) plus a couple of empty milk jugs and pitchers with tap water when Harvey looked like it was coming here. And if those ran out I have a bunch of purification tabs I use when hiking.

    Bottled water is such a ing scam.

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    Holy no signs of life or communication from Barbuda

    RIP looks like the entire island is back to prehistoric times

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    I don't understand the buying of bottled water. Just tap it for a freakin' week.

    Christ, we're such followers.
    You likely won't have access to clean tap water for a week or longer after the storm.

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    You likely won't have access to clean tap water for a week or longer after the storm.
    But, you can fill up now to your hearts content from the tap. It'll keep for at least month in any container. Use the empty plastic bottles you spent a $1 each on.

    They're just throwing good money after bad because they saw others throwing good money after bad. Rush right out & queue up.

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    I get 3 cases of 48 sixteen ounce bottled water for $2.99 each at Costco - can't beat the convenience and price - no need to mess with chlorine, worrying about sanitation, etc. Fill up the bathtubs for flushing (and we have a lake in the backyard). One cannot depend on tap water, electricity, supermarkets, etc for 2 weeks until things start to get back to normal. We have 2 small Honda generators (and 4 five gallon containers of gas) - one to run refrigerator and one to occasionally run the microwave. Ds has allergies so I bulk cook, freeze and microwave for him. Also handy is a chain-saw to clear the road of debris and a landline phone (although I complain about it) since cel phones might not work after a hurricane.

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    I get 3 cases of 48 sixteen ounce bottled water for $2.99 each at Costco - can't beat the convenience and price - no need to mess with chlorine, worrying about sanitation, etc. Fill up the bathtubs for flushing (and we have a lake in the backyard). One cannot depend on tap water, electricity, supermarkets, etc for 2 weeks until things start to get back to normal. We have 2 small Honda generators (and 4 five gallon containers of gas) - one to run refrigerator and one to occasionally run the microwave. Ds has allergies so I bulk cook, freeze and microwave for him. Also handy is a chain-saw to clear the road of debris and a landline phone (although I complain about it) since cel phones might not work after a hurricane.
    Yeah, may pull the trigger on a generator. I would prefer solar panels and a Tesla Powerwall, but can't get that spending past the Chief Wife Officer.

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