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    Someone explain this to me.....the board liberals are mad that Trump just accepted the offer given to him by the dems?

    Shouldn't you be applauding him for listening to what you consider your leaders and going along with it? What am I missing?
    You have the empathy of a reptile.

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    You have the empathy of a reptile.
    I forgot about Fuzzy! The token "fake smart guy" of every Internet forum!

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    Getting republican support now

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    This probably had something to do with it.


    some b/g on Trash's obsession with is DILF

    Trump Thinks Ivanka is a ‘Prized Possession’ Who Impresses Everyone

    D’Antonio said the Ivanka cameos was “not at all surprising,” saying she did the same thing as a child when her father had business meetings and he would take her calls while she was at school “to demonstrate how close they were.”

    “She’s been this kind of prop and instrument for him most of her life,”

    “I don’t know if he realizes that this isn’t that impressive to people,” she said.

    “I think he thinks Ivanka’s sort of his prized possession and that

    everybody is going to be so blown away because she shows up…

    but nobody cares.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-kir...dy-blown-away/

    btw, Trash has begun selling "Presidential Medals" in bronze with his thinned-down face on them, squinting sourly like Melania.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/donald-trump-selling-presidential-medals-campaign-website-article-1.3474658


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    I'm sort of confused that this is a big deal.

    a) How ed are we that people are celebrating having another debt-ceiling crisis in three months? Nothing hurt my view on Congress more than the fights they had over this in the last decade.

    b) The Democrats didn't really win anything. The main motivator for this was disaster relief for Harvey and probably Irma. That isn't really a partisan issue. As we saw with Katrina, and Sandy, party iden y doesn't really overcome politician's fear of looking bad after a national disaster. I'd never put it past Trump to be an asshole, but this was an obvious choice politically as well as morally.

    c) Trump's plans to completely ruin the economy means that another fight in December probably suits him fine. The Republicans wanted 18 months to go through their next election cycle. Trump would be better served by a GOP Congress feeling pressure to work his ideas into their policy rather than one who can sit on their hands through the midterms.

    In essence, Trump gets what he wants: A cowed GOP and a break in the unwavering resistance from the Left. The Dems get nothing but false hope. The right gets three months to come up with an even worse budget. The Gulf Coast gets continued relief money. The rest of us get to deal with this during the holidays.

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    I'm sort of confused that this is a big deal.

    a) How ed are we that people are celebrating having another debt-ceiling crisis in three months? Nothing hurt my view on Congress more than the fights they had over this in the last decade.

    b) The Democrats didn't really win anything. The main motivator for this was disaster relief for Harvey and probably Irma. That isn't really a partisan issue. As we saw with Katrina, and Sandy, party iden y doesn't really overcome politician's fear of looking bad after a national disaster. I'd never put it past Trump to be an asshole, but this was an obvious choice politically as well as morally.

    c) Trump's plans to completely ruin the economy means that another fight in December probably suits him fine. The Republicans wanted 18 months to go through their next election cycle. Trump would be better served by a GOP Congress feeling pressure to work his ideas into their policy rather than one who can sit on their hands through the midterms.

    In essence, Trump gets what he wants: A cowed GOP and a break in the unwavering resistance from the Left. The Dems get nothing but false hope. The right gets three months to come up with an even worse budget. The Gulf Coast gets continued relief money. The rest of us get to deal with this during the holidays.
    The Democrats won a chance to attach stuff to another debt ceiling vote. That is a pretty substantial thing, and means that we will be talking about whatever they want during the beginnings of the mid-term elections.

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    The Democrats won a chance to attach stuff to another debt ceiling vote. That is a pretty substantial thing, and means that we will be talking about whatever they want during the beginnings of the mid-term elections.
    Yeah, but who cares, really? I mean, they have the exact same amount of power now as they did three months ago. If the GOP didn't think they needed Dem support before, why would that change? Trump getting so much press for this gives him way more political capital than such a mundane action should warrant. He literally gave up nothing to get it.

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    Yeah, but who cares, really? I mean, they have the exact same amount of power now as they did three months ago. If the GOP didn't think they needed Dem support before, why would that change? Trump getting so much press for this gives him way more political capital than such a mundane action should warrant. He literally gave up nothing to get it.
    He didn't give up anything in the short term no. Such a move benefits him a good deal, because it demonstrates to his party that he can go around them if they don't cooperate.

    The move though, isn't designed to gain them more power immediately. It is designed to add fodder for attack ads.

    "Senator X voted for this horrible thing that you hate"

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    I forgot about Fuzzy! The token "fake smart guy" of every Internet forum!

    So true. He isn't as smart as he thinks he is.

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    Yeah, but who cares, really? I mean, they have the exact same amount of power now as they did three months ago. If the GOP didn't think they needed Dem support before, why would that change? Trump getting so much press for this gives him way more political capital than such a mundane action should warrant. He literally gave up nothing to get it.
    Political capital to be used with whom? Seems the only thing this really does is screw over Republicans by making them vote for debt multiple times before midterms. But 5-D chess and all that.

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    I forgot about Fuzzy! The token "fake smart guy" of every Internet forum!
    Such original takes you have, lizard.

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    Political capital to be used with whom? Seems the only thing this really does is screw over Republicans by making them vote for debt multiple times before midterms. But 5-D chess and all that.
    Trump apparently "gave" the Dems a huge win in the name of bringing relief to hurricane victims. That's not cause for a mandate or anything, but it does make him look better the next time he and the Left are stuck in gridlock. With the way the liberal media is high-fiving themselves over this, it's going to be hard to argue against them compromising on some things he wants to do that the Right doesn't necessarily agree with. Who knows what that will be, a Trumpcare bill that is pushed by Dems rather than the GOP?

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    , a Trumpcare bill that is pushed by Dems rather than the GOP?
    There's no healthcare bill that the Repugs will vote for that actually maintains or increases actual health care, since Trashcare 1 and 2 were really tax cuts for the wealthy/BigCorp ("wealthy" includes Trash's number one priority, himself and his $$$).

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    Such original takes you have, lizard.
    Lol....the old "nu uh" comeback....that'll teach me.

    Honestly, I'm surprised you can read this from way up on your high horse.

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    There's no healthcare bill that the Repugs will vote for that actually maintains or increases actual health care, since Trashcare 1 and 2 were really tax cuts for the wealthy/BigCorp ("wealthy" includes Trash's number one priority, himself and his $$$).
    That's all well and good in a GOP-led bill. But at this point, Trumpcare looks to be as much of a legacy thing as Obamacare is. What they tried to pass last time wasn't so much Trumpcare as it was exactly what the Ryanesque GOP would want in every situation. Trump has consistently showed that he doesn't care about towing the party line, and this time he showed that he's willing to go with the Left if they can get a faster deal that way.

    Ultimately, I do think Trump will care about his legacy above all else. He may be okay with the media blasting him for being a self-centered, misogynistic, racially insensitive bas , but he's not going to got four to eight years without doing anything. He painted himself as a populist during the campaign, and there are populist measures that are in the Democratic arena. He can pander to his base and ego without following Ryan's agenda.

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    Trump apparently "gave" the Dems a huge win in the name of bringing relief to hurricane victims. That's not cause for a mandate or anything, but it does make him look better the next time he and the Left are stuck in gridlock. With the way the liberal media is high-fiving themselves over this, it's going to be hard to argue against them compromising on some things he wants to do that the Right doesn't necessarily agree with. Who knows what that will be, a Trumpcare bill that is pushed by Dems rather than the GOP?
    That would require help from the GOP members of Congress he just screwed. It just doesn't make much sense.

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    That would require help from the GOP members of Congress he just screwed. It just doesn't make much sense.
    The GOP Congress is not in a position of power against Trump, though. He doesn't have to worry about reelection for three more years, while the GOP has 15 months. Imagine all those people going to town halls and writing letters over the last bill doing so over the Republicans not coming to the table over a bill that the Left and Trump hammer out. That's a toxic campaign environment. Can guys like Ryan keep the party in line? Yes, mostly. But they'd lose plenty of members who are fighting for survival.

    Of course, health care is just a hypothetical that isn't likely to happen even if the political capital is there. I'm just saying that a Trump that really works with Dems is much stronger than a GOP who can't rely on their POTUS or on their cons uents to go along with their policies.

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    The GOP Congress is not in a position of power against Trump, though. He doesn't have to worry about reelection for three more years, while the GOP has 15 months. Imagine all those people going to town halls and writing letters over the last bill doing so over the Republicans not coming to the table over a bill that the Left and Trump hammer out. That's a toxic campaign environment.
    So Trump's plan is to get an all Democrat Congress if the current GOPs don't follow him.

    What a plan.

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    Lol....the old "nu uh" comeback....that'll teach me.

    Honestly, I'm surprised you can read this from way up on your high horse.
    That makes no sense. There wasn't a denial in my post; nothing that should even be confused with one. I was simply ridiculing your originality. Frankly, such ignorant and whiny comments belie your narrative about our relative intelligences.

    I must say though, I do like how you have now juxtaposed the "Fuzzy isn't as smart as he thinks he is" narrative with accusations of arrogance. Perhaps some introspection will illuminate the irony for you. I find it delicious, snowflake.

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    The GOP Congress is not in a position of power against Trump, though. He doesn't have to worry about reelection for three more years, while the GOP has 15 months. Imagine all those people going to town halls and writing letters over the last bill doing so over the Republicans not coming to the table over a bill that the Left and Trump hammer out. That's a toxic campaign environment. Can guys like Ryan keep the party in line? Yes, mostly. But they'd lose plenty of members who are fighting for survival.

    Of course, health care is just a hypothetical that isn't likely to happen even if the political capital is there. I'm just saying that a Trump that really works with Dems is much stronger than a GOP who can't rely on their POTUS or on their cons uents to go along with their policies.
    Yeah, I'd have to be convinced he's really working some long triangulation game rather than concluding he just wanted to stick it to GOP congress for making him look ineffective.

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