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    In Manu's last five playoff road games, he's averaging 8.9 points per game on 34.1% shooting from the field. In has last five home games, he's averaging 22.4 points per game on 52.7% shooting from the floor.

    In the regular season, Manu was actually better on the road than at home. 15.7 points on 48.2% shooting from the field (47.3% from beyond the arc) on the road compared to 14.5 points per game on 44.2% shooting from the field (28.6% from beyond the arc) at home.

    Is it a fluke or is Manu just able to play better in front of the home fans in the playoffs for whatever reason?

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    Manu will play better tomorrow...vbook it...

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    Fluke.

    I think he's just struggling a bit in this matchup. Artest can do that to you.

    His home numbers look so good largely due to Artest being suspended in game 2 (32 points on 50% shooting).

    And his away stats.....only 13 attempts combined in games 3 and 4.

    I noticed team assists were also down in those 2 games. IMO the whole team struggled to find it's offensive flow on the road so far in this series. I don't think it's any indication that he needs the home cookin' to get it done.

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    People are automatically saying fluke by thinking this only means the two games in Arco this season.

    This includes the three games in Detroit in the Finals last year.

    I know a lot of people thought Manu deserved to win MVP of the Finals, but he sucked in the road games.

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    This includes the three games in Detroit in the Finals last year.
    Interesting....

    What about the other playoff series leading up to the finals? Was this also the case? Or only against Detroit?

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    Manu is due for a big road game now. None of the last 5 road games have been elimination games. Only thing that comes close is the game 5 of the finals, which was def a must win situation. I think he'll find some kind of rhythm tomorrow.

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    He just needs a rest. He does not need any training or stuff like that.

    He had red around his eye's. Stress....

    Which can be expected they work so hard and have all the pressure.

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    Interesting....

    What about the other playoff series leading up to the finals? Was this also the case? Or only against Detroit?
    He OWNED Denver. Seattle contained him a bit in some games but I know he had 39 in one of the Seattle games, and high 20s in two of the other ones. He did well against Phoenix too, but Duncan was the most consistent player throughout our postseason last year. He had a LOT of 30+ games.

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    sure your suppose to do better on your home court than on the road but Manu feeds off the crowd. He is a crowd pleaser. He feels the energy and thats what makes him explode, notice everytime he starts going off he motions for the crowd to get louder...EVERYTIME. He loves that attention and he loves that loud atmosphere. he thrives in those situations.

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    People are automatically saying fluke by thinking this only means the two games in Arco this season.

    This includes the three games in Detroit in the Finals last year.

    I know a lot of people thought Manu deserved to win MVP of the Finals, but he sucked in the road games.

    Um, he had 15 pts and 9 assists in game 5. Not too sucky. And I think he deserved to be MVP of the finals since the team was +31 with him on the floor against Detroit in 7 games vs -5 for Tim.

    http://nbaspurs.blogspot.com/2005/06...let-it-go.html

    Also, Tim wasn't too hot in games 3 and 4 himself in Detroit. He had 26 points combined and it took him 32 shots to get those 26 points.

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    Um, he had 15 pts and 9 assists in game 5. Not too sucky. And I think he deserved to be MVP of the finals since the team was +31 with him on the floor against Detroit in 7 games vs -5 for Tim.

    http://nbaspurs.blogspot.com/2005/06...let-it-go.html

    Also, Tim wasn't too hot in games 3 and 4 himself in Detroit. He had 26 points combined and it took him 32 shots to get those 26 points.
    That's all really irrelevant to what I was trying to say.

    I was just pointing out that LJ's averages in the original post include the 3 games in Detroit last year. The first couple people in this thread seemed to think we were just talking about the Sac series

    (And he shot 5-for-16 in that Game 5 -- pretty sucky)

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    its pretty tough playing in front of a road crowd, especially right now at ARCO. I dont blame him if that has something to do for his struggles on the road during the playoffs

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    [AHF]It was Tony Parkers fault[/AHF]

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    I think it's kind of sad that Manu's being taken for granted now, to the point of it being a lose/lose situation. When he doesn't play well people jump on him, and when he does play well, people say, "Well he's supposed to."

    The guy is a good player, even an all-star player, but I missed the memo that declared him the next Michael Jordan. It's simply not in his personality to jack up 20 or 25 shots a game when he's struggling. , he hardly ever takes more than 15 shots even when he's going well. If he senses he's having a bad night, he either just passes the ball or stops playing altogether so maybe somebody else can do well. Ultimately, he cares about the team.

    If Pop ever made a point in declaring from next season forward, that Manu is going to get 15-18 shots every game, regardless of how he's playing, his numbers would look a lot better on the surface, and some people here would be happier, but it wouldn't really make him a better player- just a more easily noticable one.

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    Okay Mr. Melodramatic.

    No one is jumping on him. Just noting a trend in a bad road playoff games and wondering if it's really a trend or a fluke.

    The difference from home to road is huge.

    In Manu's last five playoff road games, he's averaging 8.9 points per game on 34.1% shooting from the field. In has last five home games, he's averaging 22.4 points per game on 52.7% shooting from the floor.
    But I think it's such a small sample size (five games), it's likely a fluke.

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    plus the detroit series he got hit and was not able to play on 'his' level.

    Game six is tommorow

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    plus the detroit series he got hit and was not able to play on 'his' level.


    Then how did he play so well in the home games?

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    He got hit in thigh the very first play of the Game3.
    That didn't effect retroactively how he played in Games1 and 2.

    Which Spurs were statistically superior in the Finals Games3,4,5? Tim had pretty good stats in Game5, but re-watching the 2nd half, Robert's Big Shot made us forget a lot of ugliness in Tim's game5, including his failure not to dunk his missed put-back at the end of regulation.

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    lol @ the finals MVP debate argument

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    wasn't tim like a horrible 10-27 from the floor in game 7??

    he had a great 3rd qtr to redeem himself and had some timely passes in the 4th but it was manu's pass to horry in game 5, his play making ability that got us over the hump. I don't see how it could even have been argued that manu didn't deserve the finals mvp last year.

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    yeah... in all the games we actually won manu was the ... while duncan almost choked game 5 away

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    People aren't understanding the point of the thread

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    i actually understand... i just want to put that in

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    Anyway, I think Manu will have a huge game on Friday. I think it will be his best game of the series.

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