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Did any human beings die as a result of their actions?
Actually, rescuing the guests was also probably a request from legal to avoid lawsuits
Love to see that memo.
Did any human beings die as a result of their actions?
Unknown.
Why is it relevant?
Are you shooting for "no harm, no foul"?
I can hold your baby over a cliff, as long as I don't drop it accidentally?
Marriott's stranded, abandoned victims were in mortal danger.
Marriott's money was more important than human lives, which is exactly, repeatedly the case for all of Capitalism.
No, you can stay at Marriott guilt free
Your response to my post made it relevant. Do you not realize this?
When anyone else saw the le, were they hoping it was one of the actual Marriotts telling some es they weren't gonna stank up his yacht?
When it's your boat.
Just out of curiosity, what has any of the leftist white knights here done to help any of them? Anything at all...
More failed moral reasoning. Shocker.
That doesn't really answer why it is relevant. You do understand what the word "why" means, yes?
I couldn't get my yacht down there in time
I wonder if Richard Branson and friends on his destroyed Necker Island would have been refused?
destroyed once by fire, will he rebuild again?
$40K+ per night
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...500-night.html
It's called pragmatism. If you're so ing worried about it, do something yourself. If you aren't moved to help, you're not that worried about it. Why should anyone else be?
translation: "I haven't done anything. I am too busy running my suck on here"
That isn't pragmatism.
That is you setting an arbitrary moral standard that completely fails to meet any test of common sense.
Person A: "X is a problem that needs to be addressed."
DMC: "Have you devoted your life to fixing problem X?"
Person A: "No.
DMC: "Then X is not a problem we should do anything about."
This fails if I can identify an X that is clearly a problem that needs to be collectively addressed, which is trivially easy to do, i.e. child abuse, malnutrition, foster homes, etc, even if any one person does not act.
"If a person stating a problem doesn't devote their lives to a problem, then it isn't a problem."
Let's put your definition of a problem to a test then.
Do you think that child abuse is a problem?
Tu quoque fallacy.
Nice work.
You win a prize. As I said, failed reasoning, very easy to show.
You just kicked your own ass.
Let's bend your example back to reality from your extreme strawman version:
Person A: "X is a problem that we need to devote our lives to addressing."
DMC: "Have you devoted your life to addressing problem X?"
Person A: "No."
DMC: "Then you truly don't feel X is a problem we should devote our lives to."
or
Person A: "X is a problem that needs to be addressed."
DMC: "Have you addressed problem X?"
Person A: "No."
DMC: "Then you do not feel X is a problem we should address."
You can only identify that you are concerned about X but then you make it clear for the forum that your level of concern doesn't reach action status. Why should anyone here take you seriously?
You're just trying to alleviate some of the guilt by saying "devote their lives", as if that gets you off the hook for being apathetic in the pocketbook but philanthropic in the mouth. People give to charity and help all the time without dedicating their lives to it, so it's not a defense to prosecution here to use that bifurcation as an excuse.
I do think child abuse is a problem. If I see you beating a child I'll kick the ever living out of you, ergo compelled to act.
Are you making a logical argument regarding the OP? If so, how can you show logically that Marriott did anything wrong by denying non-paying people access to their boat?
If you're not making a logical argument, why do you think citing a logical fallacy is relevant?
Cue one line quip...
Ah, a clarification. Good, and thank you for the correction. You even answered a direct question. Now we can get somewhere.
You think child abuse is a problem.
How have you addressed child abuse?
I don't do the Chumpdumper dance. Sorry.
So you have done nothing.
You don't really think child abuse is a problem, and we shouldn't care about it.
Way too complex for OP to understand. Feelings over facts tbh
I belong to the Guardian Angel society in Austin. I donate several thousand a year.
Now you'll say "prove it" which I don't need to. You've admitted you've done nothing.
But then I didn't create a thread bashing others for not doing anything about child abuse so your tangent is moot to begin with.
Back to square one.
Nobody here can bend time and space to get a boat there to save people before a hurricane.
You're a tool.
I can take you at your word. Generally though, it is easier to simply answer questions the first time.
I donate a modest amount to CASA and the San Marcos food bank. Used to help cook meals at the local shelter, until time constraints made giving up an entire day every weekend got to be too much.
I do and have done what I can.
As for square one, we could simply run down a list of obvious societal problems, until we find one you haven't done anything about.
What then? Does your logic still hold?
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