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    I'm not getting a shot just in case I am a carrier of the flu.
    Yep.

    Thats not a surprise.

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    If they worked why do people still get sick here
    There are many strains of the flu virus. The shot doesn't cover them all.

    The shot is supposed to lessen your symptoms, especially for people who go overboard with symptoms. I know people all around me who get a shot every year, and every year they have the flu. If I was prone to get it, I would investigate the shot but right now it's like Bob Ross putting that big ing tree right in the middle of a perfectly good mountain scene - don't fix what ain't broken.

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    How many people die having the flu ?
    It very unlucky you die from it and it is not that bad either.
    I choice no shot and if get it and feel bad a couple days oh well
    Side effects worse and several types of it and shots do not cover them all
    It's not the flu itself as much as the damage it does to your kidneys and other organs. Long term it can be very dangerous, and pneumonia can develop and suddenly you're pumping antibiotics into your system left and right, trying to get ahead of it. None of that is good, best to just avoid it.

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    Yep.

    Thats not a surprise.
    What I mean is that risk isn't enough to move me to risk the repercussions of getting the shot.

    Do you wear a face mask on planes? Do you wear latex gloves as well? If not, you're not doing enough to protect other people from things you could be carrying.

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    How many people die having the flu ?
    It very unlucky you die from it and it is not that bad either.
    I choice no shot and if get it and feel bad a couple days oh well
    Side effects worse and several types of it and shots do not cover them all
    Many die from the flu.
    If the flu had the same symptoms as Ebola or small box people would rush to get the vaccine. But the flu just makes you feel achy, fever, weakness, lungs start to go bad. Pneumonia and such take over. Dead. It's not an "scary" disease. But it kills.

    So ducks it's all good. Let people like me protect you. I like ducks.

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    http://www.npr.org/sections/health-s...w-you-slice-it

    They do not even know they just guess

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    What I mean is that risk isn't enough to move me to risk the repercussions of getting the shot.

    Do you wear a face mask on planes? Do you wear latex gloves as well? If not, you're not doing enough to protect other people from things you could be carrying.
    Yes if I'm sick with a cold I do. But I know I have it.
    What other things would I be carrying that is very very common, kill lots of people, and show no symptoms in some because it infects so many?

    Answer, cold viruses.

    Pretty damn pitiful argument frankly.
    Herd immunity is most important in widespread diseases. The flu is the most widespread viral disease along with colds but it kills people.

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    Flu Deaths Around the World
    Worldwide there are between 250,000 and 500,000 flu deaths per year. In a typical flu season, between 3 and 5 million people will have what is considered a serious case of influenza.

    2016 date
    https://www.verywell.com/flu-deaths-per-year-770503

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    Yes if I'm sick with a cold I do. But I know I have it.
    What other things would I be carrying that is very very common, kill lots of people, and show no symptoms in some because it infects so many?

    Answer, cold viruses.

    Pretty damn pitiful argument frankly.
    Herd immunity is most important in widespread diseases. The flu is the most widespread viral disease along with colds but it kills people.
    Then you need to stop flying, you're killing innocent people.

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    No its more than a guess because it usually has a start in other countries and also can show some cyclical behavior.

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    Ive never gotten a flu shot either

    But lol Natural news and that abortion of links ducks put up

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    Then you need to stop flying, you're killing innocent people.
    How exactly? What disease is this prevalent that is easily transmissible, world wide, and kills people.
    Let me know Dr. D

    Im just not into using other people's good health because they protect themselves properly as a buffer.

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    How exactly? What disease is this prevalent that is easily transmissible, world wide, and kills people.
    Let me know Dr. D

    Im just not into using other people's good health because they protect themselves properly as a buffer.
    So to what end exactly? Do you wear a face mask at concerts? How about in a restaurant or theater? Is it just flying?

    If you have a cold, you're sick already. I don't get sick, not like that.

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    Flu Deaths Around the World
    Worldwide there are between 250,000 and 500,000 flu deaths per year. In a typical flu season, between 3 and 5 million people will have what is considered a serious case of influenza.

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    https://www.verywell.com/flu-deaths-per-year-770503
    Its the most prevalent transmissible (person to person) disease in the world that's a killer.
    And those numbers are bad and highly variable year to year. Some strains have a much larger % of deaths.

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    So to what end exactly? Do you wear a face mask at concerts? How about in a restaurant or theater? Is it just flying?

    If you have a cold, you're sick already. I don't get sick, not like that.
    Think about it.

    Where are you tightly enclosed using recycled air with large numbers of people in which the craft you are sitting in has previously had people from all over everywhere sitting in it?
    Are you trying to be especially stupid tonight?

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    So what strain of flu shot did you get?

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    Think about it.

    Where are you tightly enclosed using recycled air with large numbers of people in which the craft you are sitting in has previously had people from all over everywhere sitting in it?
    Are you trying to be especially stupid tonight?
    Why does it matter if they are from "all over everywhere"? 130 people are 130 people. Any of them can have the flu. Since I take over 30 flights a year and have for 15 or more years, I'd say it's not really an issue, not for me.

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    So what strain of flu shot did you get?
    I get the quadravalent.

    I have no idea what antigens have been selected this year but I can find out if you would like.
    Im trusting people who know a lot more about which antigens to use as I am not in this particular field, it's not my life's work.

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    So what strain of flu shot did you get?
    There's a yearly strain that's used to create the shot. Sometimes they miss the actual strain.

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    Would you favor making it a law thatyou must get it

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    There's a yearly strain that's used to create the shot. Sometimes they miss the actual strain.
    That makes it great you got it
    That is why I do not get it

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    Why does it matter if they are from "all over everywhere"? 130 people are 130 people. Any of them can have the flu. Since I take over 30 flights a year and have for 15 or more years, I'd say it's not really an issue, not for me.
    You really need to stop.

    Are you fckn kidding? What difference does it make if people are highly mobile in the spread of transmissible disease?
    Its interesting there are only 130 people in the airports you land in. I've been in some very small ones, but had to be in big ones to get to the small ones.

    And yeah, it's apparent it's not an issue for you.
    Its my choice. I've never had the flu.

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    Would you favor making it a law thatyou must get it
    No since it's not an inoculation, but I am all for inoculations. I don't think anyone should be allowed to opt out of those if you want to live in the US with the rest of us.

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    You really need to stop.

    Are you fckn kidding? What difference does it make if people are highly mobile in the spread of transmissible disease?
    Its interesting there are only 130 people in the airports you land in. I've been in some very small ones, but had to be in big ones to get to the small ones.

    And yeah, it's apparent it's not an issue for you.
    Its my choice. I've never had the flu.
    The airplane only recycles about half its air. Even that is filtered. The germs are on tray tables and that overhead vent knob that never gets cleaned. You have to close your tray tables, not clean them. You adjust the air, you don't clean the vent (neither do they). I clean my tray table and my vent with wipes. I don't touch door handles if I can avoid it. When I eat a urinal mint, it has to be relatively fresh. People get sick from the fact they are travelling, they are tired and they are exposed to climate conditions they aren't accustomed to.

    How are people sitting on a plane more mobile than people sitting at a concert or a sporting event? I get it they are moving through the air much faster, but they are personally not more mobile and a moving plane doesn't necessarily collect disease.

    130 on the plane, dip , unless you think the airport recycles all it's air and is a "tube".

    There are more than 130 at HEB. Oh noes! I better get my surgical mask!

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    Do you think I should eat healthy also so I am less likely to get sick
    Make sure I do get plenty of rest and exercise

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