So we just keep piling up the debt - waiting for the feds to bail us out and add on to the 20 trillion dollars. This is not even considering the obligation of SS and Medicare. I don't know about you all, but the math looks pretty grim to me.
You had a chance to care about it earlier. You didn't.
Huh? I'm not for spending more than one takes in. I think they should raise the age of SS to at least 70 - better yet, tie it to life expectancy. I don't think that Medicaid should include able-bodied individuals with no kids. I'm not for personal tax cuts - corporate, yes so that corporations don't run off to Canada and Ireland, and discount to bring back the trillions parked abroad. I'm for cutting the waste in government and abolishing this automatic increase in every department.
Last edited by rmt; 09-22-2017 at 07:35 PM.
You have been railing so hard against the GOP's tax cuts they have been talking about for months.
It's been predicted for near 40 years that your generation's tax cut regimes coupled with your not proportionately having enough children would produce a cluster fiscally now that Boomers are leaving the workforce paying for your retirements. Blackballing millennials when they tried to enter has not helped.
That is a societal reality that we are now having to deal with.
That has absolutely nothing to do with medicaid expansion. You already get your medicare.
A lot of assumptions here. I haven't gotten my medicare - as I'm on the better side of my mid-fifties. I have reproduced at 50% more than my dh and myself. I haven't voted in any tax cut regimes - as far as I know, Trump hasn't passed any tax cuts yet. And I've just re-entered the workforce and intend to work as long as I possibly can.
Would you continue the irresponsibility in overspending just because the generation before you did? You're the one who's going to foot the bill (if you're young and not near retirement). Imo, expanding Medicaid to able-bodied individuals with no kids is financially irresponsible. I don't mind paying for the disabled and kids but able-bodied adults should not be getting health care for free - there should be at the very least a work requirement.
Last edited by rmt; 09-22-2017 at 09:06 PM.
Are you being sarcastic? I don't think I've said anything about tax cuts recently, and my position has not changed since I've been posting here - I have always been for govt spending cuts and working down the debt.
The reason I did not originally reply with your quote was that I did not want to single you out as many on this board share this opinion (but it was causing confusion with pavlov). My point is that states which are trying to be fiscally responsible know that they cannot afford Medicaid expansion as ACA is written. It (their share), together with (most of) their unfunded pension liabilities would sink them financially. I don't get this thinking that we can just keep spending and spending and adding to the debt - sooner or later, our dollar would be worthless.
Not sure what this idea that what you did is representative of America as a whole, tbh...
The slowdown in birthrate in America has been a trend going for decades, and it's a real problem in more ways than one. See: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ica-mate-again
I should note that nobody is saying it's your fault either, but it's undeniably one of many factors affecting the calculation on things like retirement and healthcare.
Of course you haven't complained about Trump's tax cut plans because you couldn't give two s about the debt.
So what is he implying by saying, "You already get your medicare" - that is not a generalization - that is directed at me.
By 2029, Medicare Hospital Insurance is exhausted resulting in 12% cut in benefit payments to 80 million. By 2034, combined SS trust funds exhausted resulting in 23% cut in benefits affecting 87 million.
http://www.pgpf.org/analysis/social-...ustees-reports
On the contrary, it's the liberals who expanded Medicaid to millions of able-bodied adults without kids and tend to spend - not caring about the debt. I am on record saying that I don't want personal tax cuts - that I want the debt worked down.
Then there is the political reality of the party you support over the past 40 years.
The cognitive dissonance is strong in you.
You'll be getting it soon enough then.
And why should we give a about an analysis from a Nixon advisor and former Lehman Brothers board member's projections? Is that really the best your google fu could come up with?
ing sick. This needs to catch the AIDS from one of those hood giggas she hates so much.
off, you don't give a about the debt. You only ever come and whine about the ACA, you never go on rants here about the capital gains tax rate being so much lower than income tax rate, the tax cuts your Republican party passes every single time they get in power, all the expensive military bases we have overseas, all the money we waste at the pentagon and in our national offense, and so on. No one believes you care anything about the debt.
Trash Just Got Exposed Pulling A Shady Trick To Sabotage Obamacare Open Enrollment
Since, by every measure, Obamacare is neither collapsing nor imploding, his regime has begun the process of sabotaging it.
Already Trump has weakened enforcement of the law’s insurance mandates, gutted funding for outreach, and
cut the open enrollment period from 90 to 45 days.Apparently, limiting Americans time to sign up for healthcare to half of last year’s period was not enough for Trump.
Vox Senior Policy Correspondent Sarah Kliff tweeted a screenshot of an email announcing that Healthcare.gov, the federal insurance marketplace, will also be
closed for “maintenance” for five of the six Sunday mornings of open enrollment and an additional night
a deliberate attempt to undermine the reliability of the program — and at a time of week the administration knows full well that many working families have some much needed time to themselves.
http://verifiedpolitics.com/trump-ju...en-enrollment/
All Intentional MISGovernance, All The Time, and why not some voluntary manslaughter?
Right-Wing Star Declares He's Too Healthy For Insurance: Guess What Happened.
Begging strangers for money: the Republican way to pay for healthcare.
He tweeted that he is considering declaring bankruptcy due to this accident. I would ask him to consider that there is no other industrialized nation on this planet where you would go bankrupt due to a sudden medical catastrophe
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9/21/1700248/-Rightwing-Star-Declares-He-s-Too-Healthy-For-Insurance-Guess-What-Happened?detail=emaildkre
So the asshole is planning to stiff his creditors, following the decades long example of Trash
I was not politically active at all until this past election - too busy raising kids. When voting, it really comes down to 2 choices and the Dems' iden y politics, redistribution, spending (Medicare for all, free college tuition) are just too much for me. We can't even afford Medicare as it stands for people who have contributed their whole working lives and they want to do it for everyone? That math just does not make sense.
Yall telling me that McCain wiped the floor with Trumps ass again?
"the Dems' iden y politics"
Repugs are the SUPERIOR party for iden y politics, the iden y being WHITE MALE, with sub-iden ies of RICH and Bible humper.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-23-2017 at 10:23 AM.
It's telling that you listed iden y politics first.
To op busy raising kids to perform your civic duty? Were you voting without the knowledge to backup your vote? What was it that made you become politically active?
iirc, i came down here about a year before the election. I think that a year on this board before the election listening to you all made me knowledgeable enough to back up my vote - it was one crazy ride :-) Regarding my civic duty, posters here are so politically opinionated (I say that because I don't know if it's translated into action) - I would hazard a guess that most typical Americans either don't have a clue or don't care - sad to say (as I was one of them) but I thank you all for the discourse and neglecting my civic duty won't happen again.
Never had time before when I was full-time homeschooling - but ds was transitioning into public school that fall (only taught him Algebra) - not much to do except housework and driving him around. It was also the time that dh was off work for 5 months and I had to find alternative health care and really delved into Obamacare - and you know how I hate that program.
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