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    Lmao the voting machines hacked by russia is an old wives tale
    Actually it's a low information poster straw man.

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    Holy , you're serious.
    Bro, we were counting it that way just how many elections ago? And was still getting done same night, then. Stop being a spazz as if it means something; you're only making yourself look like...well, sound effect please.....

    *dink!

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    Bro, we were counting it that way just how many elections ago? And was still getting done same night, then. Stop being a spazz as if it means something; you're only making yourself look like...well, sound effect please.....

    *dink!
    When was the last time all US votes were hand counted?

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    When was the last time all US votes were hand counted?
    It's been done that way in your lifetime.

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    It's been done that way in your lifetime.
    You didn't answer the question. When was the last time all US votes were hand counted?

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    You didn't answer the question. When was the last time all US votes were hand counted?
    Do you doubt that it's been done that way in your lifetime?

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    Do you doubt that it's been done that way in your lifetime?
    You didn't answer my question. Let me know when you have an actual answer since you say you care about this.

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    You didn't answer my question. Let me know when you have an actual answer since you say you care about this.
    I think you want to stall to get off topic. The info on that is easily accessible I'm sure. Using your prior logic, if you gave a about that, you'd just look it up yourself. So, let's just put this in a hypothetical: If hand counting worked within 1-3 days, would it be worth utilizing to get rid of a system that could be electronically hacked?

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    I saw you just told someone to mind his own business.


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    Be patient.

    One is underway.
    One is discussed by neckbeards on 4chan.

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    Lmao the voting machines hacked by russia is an old wives tale

    Show me one article with some technical information on how the voting machines were hacked, how many and how many votes were affected

    One article

    Waiting..
    related:

    https://www.cnet.com/news/defcon-hac...ting-machines/

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    from the article:

    To be clear, there's no evidence any votes were hacked during the 2016 presidential election.

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    from that one:

    "In reality I don't think we know for sure whether votes were changed in 2016,"

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    from the article:

    To be clear, there's no evidence any votes were hacked during the 2016 presidential election.
    from that one:

    "In reality I don't think we know for sure whether votes were changed in 2016,"
    Yeah, I said it's related, not that it proves anything, tbh...

    That said, you asked for articles with technical details on the hacks, some of those DEFCON articles have that.


    Unfortunately asking for more details from government is complicated, as apparently DHS is all in with secrecy on the subject...:

    McConnell said Homeland Security is leaving it up to individual states to decide whether to tell the public that their voting systems were among those targeted by hackers. "We will continue to keep this information confidential and defer to each state whether it wishes to make it public or not."
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    This one is a good read too, BTW:

    https://www.wired.com/story/voting-m...-hacks-defcon/

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    Thanks brah

    But non of those articles point any evidence of Russia doing it or any votes being affected at all

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    "Fixing" the voting machines.

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    Thanks brah

    But non of those articles point any evidence of Russia doing it or any votes being affected at all
    yeah, plus if it really was Russian intelligence services, it'll never come out, tbh... would make the FBI look like re s...

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    yeah, plus if it really was Russian intelligence services, it'll never come out, tbh... would make the FBI look like re s...
    Yeah

    Plus if it really was the Russians. US woulda shut up about it and worked undercover to finance their cyber security to be impenetrable and their elections untouchable

    Thats what any of us would do. If our house is broken into we dont cry about it publicly for the next 4 years. We buy a bunch of locks, sensors and cameras to catch the next bas that tries to get in.

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    Yeah

    Plus if it really was the Russians. US woulda shut up about it and worked undercover to finance their cyber security to be impenetrable and their elections untouchable

    Thats what any of us would do. If our house is broken into we dont cry about it publicly for the next 4 years. We buy a bunch of locks, sensors and cameras to catch the next bas that tries to get in.
    More hilarious, IMO, is how the tables have turned... from 'voter fraud everywhere!' to 'lol voting fraud'...

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    Plus, when we talk about the US, we're really talking about government and especially government contractors...

    Pockets get lined up, and cybersecurity for an event that happens once maybe every 2 years is an afterthought, tbh...

    That said, you would need a massive attack that seems pretty unlikely, even if you had physical access to the machines, you would need to be in a lot of places at the same time.

    In light of that, the angle of Russian interference in the campaign through marketing becomes way more legitimate compared to this (which doesn't mean it conclusively was a factor).

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    Conspiracies involving many people are easily exposed, because people talk. That's why I've always been skeptical of RussiaCollusionGate.

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    Conspiracies involving many people are easily exposed, because people talk. That's why I've always been skeptical of RussiaCollusionGate.
    Frankly, that's very debatable when it comes to intel ops.

    Then again, regardless if it happened or not, there's no doubt in my mind that Shillary being a terrible candidate had way more influence than any facebook ads, etc...

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    Frankly, that's very debatable when it comes to intel ops.

    Then again, regardless if it happened or not, there's no doubt in my mind that Shillary being a terrible candidate had way more influence than any facebook ads, etc...
    Yet Russian ops felt they still needed to interfere...

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