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    Im sure much of those homicides are coming from gang violence.
    because in other countries there are no gang violence... you just put stupid bar at another level tbh

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    because in other countries there are no gang violence... you just put stupid bar at another level tbh
    You're obviously too stupid to understand what I was saying.

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    Prayers don’t do , changing your laws do you sick s.
    What kind of changes?

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    You're obviously too stupid to understand what I was saying.
    I understood perfectly you are a dumb trumpards pro gun red neck...

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    In emails revealed by WikiLeaks, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign chairman wanted mass shooters to be white and was upset that the media reported the name of an Islamic terrorist who was involved in the San Bernardino terrorist attack that killed 14.

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    I understood perfectly you are a dumb trumpards pro gun red neck...
    It's pretty obvious you didn't. How the can anyone have an actual discussion about this with dumb heads like you?

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    It's pretty obvious you didn't. How the can anyone have an actual discussion about this with dumb heads like you?
    It's pretty obvious you love your guns and you love Donald laughing stock of the world Trump, it's all we need to know about you tbh... I have actually 0 interest about having an actual discussion with a dumb like you bro... no offense but our education and general IQ are too different for that...

    but but self defense how other countries can survive without guns in each house

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    It's pretty obvious you love your guns and you love Donald laughing stock of the world Trump, it's all we need to know about you tbh... I have actually 0 interest about having an actual discussion with a dumb like you bro... no offense but our education and general IQ are too different for that...

    but but self defense how other countries can survive without guns in each house
    second amendment was not about self defense as it was to protect the people from tyranny/government. Your arrogance and insulting posts are incredible. Since you are so sure of yourself and everyone else’s lack of knowledge or intelligence, then please do share with us your background and superb “education”.

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    It's pretty obvious you love your guns and you love Donald laughing stock of the world Trump, it's all we need to know about you tbh... I have actually 0 interest about having an actual discussion with a dumb like you bro... no offense but our education and general IQ are too different for that...

    but but self defense how other countries can survive without guns in each house
    You're just posting a bunch of bull . Wtf is wrong with you? And you're not interested in having an actual discussion because you can't. Which is probably why you resort to spewing insults and name calling.

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    "to protect the people from tyranny/government."

    You Lie

    you're a duped sucker for BigGun/NRA LIES



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    second amendment was not about self defense as it was to protect the people from tyranny/government. Your arrogance and insulting posts are incredible. Since you are so sure of yourself and everyone else’s lack of knowledge or intelligence, then please do share with us your background and superb “education”.
    You need to watch the last part of those videos someone posted, tbh.

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    You are all kinds of ed up, tbh. Every example in the World shows that stricter gun regulations greatly diminished the number of massacres. I don't know why some of you are trying to argue against such a clear fact, tbh.

    If you want to defend the right to bare guns, just take another angle and talk about personal liberties or like that, but don't try to sell the idea that the laughable facility to get guns in the US doesn't influence at all the ungodly amount of massacres that occur there.

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    second amendment was not about self defense as it was to protect the people from tyranny/government. Your arrogance and insulting posts are incredible. Since you are so sure of yourself and everyone else’s lack of knowledge or intelligence, then please do share with us your background and superb “education”.
    dumbass, the claim about self defense has been made by bic50 ... learn to read and then come back at me about education.

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    You're just posting a bunch of bull . Wtf is wrong with you? And you're not interested in having an actual discussion because you can't. Which is probably why you resort to spewing insults and name calling.
    I'm not interested in having an actual discussion because you are an imbecile

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    You are all kinds of ed up, tbh. Every example in the World shows that stricter gun regulations greatly diminished the number of massacres. I don't know why some of you are trying to argue against such a clear fact, tbh.

    If you want to defend the right to bare guns, just take another angle and talk about personal liberties or like that, but don't try to sell the idea that the laughable facility to get guns in the US doesn't influence at all the ungodly amount of massacres that occur there.
    All those guys live in a twilight zone where having near one gun per capita is ok and where Trump is doing great

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.231c20fe4a42

    I've never owned a gun and I've only fire a shotgun twice in my life. I'm no gun advocate, but I found this interesting from a liberal statistician formerly o FiveThirty Eight.

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    What exactly needs to change? From what I understand automatic weapons are illegal or extremly hard to get. But should people now not be allowed to own firearms for self defense? Who in the rest of the world is shaking their heads?

    Because you don't need guns for self defense. That's a myth manufactured by the gun nuts. Many many countries have gun control and no need to have guns for self defense. Simply every control with gun control has lowered mass shootings. Every statistics out there goes against you by owning a gun. It's more likely that you would use it on yourself or your kids than you using it for protection.

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    Those statistics on gun related deaths count suicide by gun.

    Sure, get rid of guns and we can have more nut jobs park fertilizer bombs outside of government buildings. ..but hey, gun related deaths would certainly go down.

    Maybe if we make murder legal we can really make crime drop...at least for statistics sakes.

    Don't own a gun, but I want our 2nd amendment right protected. Our government should, and needs to respect /fear us.

    If you really want to save lives, then support strict "regulation" of alcohol, but I do not hear do gooders clamoring for that. ..I guess it isn't in vogue. 88,000 die each year from alcohol related deaths compared to 13,000 in gun related, again, that number includes suicide by gun.


    Here are some statistics for you:

    1. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves against their ethnic-cleansing government, were arrested and exterminated.

    2. In 1929, the former Soviet Union established gun control as a means of controlling the “more difficult” of their citizens. From 1929 to the death of Stalin, 40 million Soviets met an untimely end at the hand of various governmental agencies as they were arrested and exterminated.

    3. After the rise of the Nazi’s, Germany established their version of gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, sexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves against the “Brown Shirts”, were arrested and exterminated. Interestingly, the Brown Shirts were eventually targeted for extermination themselves following their blind acts of allegiance to Hitler. Any American military and police would be wise to grasp the historical significance of the Brown Shirts’ fate.

    4. After Communist China established gun control in 1935, an estimated 50 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves against their fascist leaders, were arrested and exterminated.

    5. Closer to home, Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayans, unable to defend themselves against their ruthless dictatorship, were arrested and exterminated.

    6. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves from their dictatorial government, were arrested and exterminated.

    7. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million of the “educated” people, unable to defend themselves against their fascist government, were arrested and exterminated.

    8. In 1994, Rwanda disarmed the Tutsi people and being unable to defend themselves from their totalitarian government, nearly one million were summarily executed.

    The total numbers of victims who lost their lives because of gun control is approximately 70 million people in the 20th century. The historical voices from 70 million corpses speak loudly and clearly to those Americans who are advocating for a de facto gun ban. Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined. Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals and it all followed gun control.
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    Those statistics on gun related deaths count suicide by gun. Sure, get rid of guns and we can have more nut jobs park fertilizer bombs outside of government buildings. ..but hey, gun related deaths would certainly go down. Maybe if we make murder legal we can really make crime drop...at least for statistics sakes. Don't own a gun, but I want our 2nd amendment right protected. Our government should, and needs to respect /fear us. If you really want to save lives, then support strict "regulation" of alcohol, but I do not hear do gooders clamoring for that. ..I guess it isn't in vogue.

    Yes, gun related deaths also include suicide. But your reducing suicide if they didnt get guns. How paranoid are you to think nut jobs are blowing up buildings. And how will having a gun stop nut jobs from blowing up civilians? And how will having guns stop a bomber? It won't, so guns are worthless there. I mean, yes, bombs happen, see England, but it's less than the mass shootings that America are having like every day. Plus Boston bombing killed three and injured a few hundred. That's far less than vegas. Guns are not saving lives. England is coming back to take back America, and the peasants are not going to overtake the government. Every country that has gun control has lowered the shootings. Thats real life and not some fantasy of needing to protect yourselves.


    Plus watch the video. It's not only funny but very accurate representation on the issue.

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    Everyone is preaching gun control because the glowing box in the living room is telling them to do so. If anyone thinks corporate media and the federal government has our best interests at heart, they are so mistaken.

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    Yes, gun related deaths also include suicide. But your reducing suicide if they didnt get guns. How paranoid are you to think nut jobs are blowing up buildings. And how will having a gun stop nut jobs from blowing up civilians? And how will having guns stop a bomber? It won't, so guns are worthless there. I mean, yes, bombs happen, see England, but it's less than the mass shootings that America are having like every day. Plus Boston bombing killed three and injured a few hundred. That's far less than vegas. Guns are not saving lives. England is coming back to take back America, and the peasants are not going to overtake the government. Every country that has gun control has lowered the shootings. Thats real life and not some fantasy of needing to protect yourselves.


    Plus watch the video. It's not only funny but very accurate representation on the issue.
    Alcohol related deaths 88,000 per year, guns 13,000

    Talk to that

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    I'm not interested in having an actual discussion because you are an imbecile
    No we both know the actual reason why and it's because you cant. Just call names. Thanks for proving my point
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    Because you don't need guns for self defense. That's a myth manufactured by the gun nuts. Many many countries have gun control and no need to have guns for self defense. Simply every control with gun control has lowered mass shootings. Every statistics out there goes against you by owning a gun. It's more likely that you would use it on yourself or your kids than you using it for protection.
    But there have been plenty of times people have actually fended off home invasions and robberies at businesses with a firearm in self defense.

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    Everyone is preaching gun control because the glowing box in the living room is telling them to do so. If anyone thinks corporate media and the federal government has our best interests at heart, they are so mistaken.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Truth
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