Spurs and LMA engaged in contract extension talks

[SAGirl]

How many layups and fadeaways do you think LMA misses over Green if these teams meet in the WCF?

I am hoping Kyle comes out balling since he wasn’t afraid of Raymond. I want Kyle to get paid and get a real roster spot. He needs to ball out that series

[Chinook]

"The Pau signing is giving us flexibility to make a big trade later! Don't worry about the cap, LMA and DG will opt out anyway!" - PATFO slurpers just a month ago

Can't wait for Danny's loyalty extension next.

Did anyone actually like the Pau deal? Anyone at all? It's funny though, that you're trying to act like others are idiots for saying LMA was going to leave, when that was your hill during the off-season.

[jjktkk]

Hope Kawhi wins multiple championships somewhere else.

Poop knows he's retiring soon, so at least he has an excuse to not giving a .... but Drunkford? This got virgin is ing over this team with ty contracts and trash youth.

Well if the great boat got thinks its a bad move, its gotta be the right move.

[TimDunkem]

Did anyone actually like the Pau deal? Anyone at all? It's funny though, that you're trying to act like others are idiots for saying LMA was going to leave, when that was your hill during the off-season.

It actually wasn't. I knew LMA wouldn't opt out. That was one of my gripes with giving out huge contracts. I was only hoping he'd be moved.

And, yes, people here were saying the Pau contract was opening the doors to a game changing trade down the road. I'm not optimistic about that one.

[xellos88330]

Let's hope that Aldridge will play with a chip on his shoulder this year towards the rest of the league for passing up on him during trade talks. If he can do that, then I will be satisfied.

[vy65]

Pau opted out with the idea that he might take less if they could get Paul. He would have been cheaper than LMA, so they could move Aldridge, sign Paul, and run CP3/Simmons/Leonard/Gay/Gasol. In reality, that's worse than they're going to run right now, but eventually, Tony would be back, and you'd have:

Paul, Mills
Parker, Simmons
Leonard, Ginobili
Gay/Lee, Anderson/Bertans
Gasol, Lauverge or whomever

Pop could finally live his dream of Tony as the starting two-guard. With the exception of Pau, the starting unity would be pretty dynamic offensively. Defensively, with Paul and Kawhi, you hope it still holds up. If they could unearth a new Dedmon, then you could really have something. But it didn't work out, because Paul was more interested in getting a stacked roster, and Houston promised to go after Melo while SA was trying to dump Aldridge. The Rockets just looked more committed to winning.

None of this comes close to addressing the fact that the FO totally ed up their pursuit of Paul. But, in fairness, I think you gave up trying to argue otherwise, so good on you.

[tonight...you]

I am hoping Kyle comes out balling since he wasn’t afraid of Raymond. I want Kyle to get paid and get a real roster spot. He needs to ball out that series

I hope he comes out like his ass hair is on fire.

[SAGirl]

I hope he comes out like his ass hair is on fire.

[tbdog]

Gasol's final year is 6.5mil. It's a retirement bonus and about 5% of the cap. The problem is it's 32mil for 2 years.

[Chinook]

None of this comes close to addressing the fact that the FO totally ed up their pursuit of Paul. But, in fairness, I think you gave up trying to argue otherwise, so good on you.

I never said PAFTO did well trying to get Paul. If you recall, I never wanted Paul, so I don't care one way or another if they could have gotten him. I do think Pop had a plan for the roster and wasn't going to ask CP3 to pick the personnel, which makes a ton of sense. That turned off Paul, though, not the team not getting rid of Aldridge, which seems to have been your original belief. They could have dumped him if they really wanted to.

[Chinook]

Gasol's final year is 6.5mil. It's a retirement bonus and about 5% of the cap. The problem is it's 32mil for 2 years.

The final year is the problem. They should have given him $39M/2 instead. Can't keep having dead money on the cap. It's insane an NBA team has as much as the Spurs and Blazers do as it is.

[NASpurs]

I remember how this used to be a thing most of the old timers here would laugh at other franchises about. How ironic that, now that GS has the reigns on the league, this is what the PATFO slurpers point to as a successful season now.

The Jeff McDonalds of this world, "it's OK to let someone else have a turn", ing losers:

[TimDunkem]

The Jeff McDonalds of this world, "it's OK to let someone else have a turn", ing losers:

Disgusting that this is our inside man. Not only does he not have any real insider info, but he's completely indifferent about the team he covers.

[vy65]

I never said PAFTO did well trying to get Paul. If you recall, I never wanted Paul, so I don't care one way or another if they could have gotten him. I do think Pop had a plan for the roster and wasn't going to ask CP3 to pick the personnel, which makes a ton of sense. That turned off Paul, though, not the team not getting rid of Aldridge, which seems to have been your original belief. They could have dumped him if they really wanted to.

So everything you posted was irrelevant to the point I was making — that PATFO miserably ed up in their pursuit of Chris Paul?

Awesome, thanks.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, I'm assuming Manu starts at the two. He will still be able to give a good 15 seconds.

I am done predicting he will retire. He's doing another season after this one.

[tdominate21]

In two years..

Rudy gay 33
Mills 32
Parker 39
Gasol 39
Aldridge 35
Green 35

Yeah sounds like a plan


but kawhi gets so much help

So who would you rather have the spurs sign? And you're an idiot if you don't think the spurs tried to get cp3. So who would have made us better?

[Chinook]

So everything you posted was irrelevant to the point I was making — that PATFO miserably ed up in their pursuit of Chris Paul?

Awesome, thanks.

That wasn't your point. Your point was that the uncertainty with Aldridge hurt the team's chances with Paul. Presumably, you thought that Paul didn't want LMA, because you tried to make that point in this thread after ing about Aldridge's contract over and over. The truth is, if this extension had happened earlier (which it legally couldn't have happened before Paul decided to go to Houston), it may have helped get Paul, not hurt. It's one thing to not admit you were mistaken. I get that. I don't get you always acting dismissive about it, though.

My point was totally relevant to yours. I said you didn't know why Paul made the statement about Aldridge, and you didn't. 99 percent of the folks on here didn't like the off-season. Trying to act like that was your thesis is silly.

[tonight...you]

That wasn't your point. Your point was that the uncertainty with Aldridge hurt the team's chances with Paul. Presumably, you thought that Paul didn't want LMA, because you tried to make that point in this thread after ing about Aldridge's contract over and over. The truth is, if this extension had happened earlier (which it legally couldn't have happened before Paul decided to go to Houston), it may have helped get Paul, not hurt. It's one thing to not admit you were mistaken. I get that. I don't get you always acting dismissive about it, though.

My point was totally relevant to yours. I said you didn't know why Paul made the statement about Aldridge, and you didn't. 99 percent of the folks on here didn't like the off-season. Trying to act like that was your thesis is silly.

Don't worry about him. He's Sensitive.

[Russ]

One thing is for damn sure -- none of this smacks of desperation.

The FO seems smugly confident in these moves.

So, as the old labor anthem goes, which side are you on?

I'll tentatively side with the FO -- they probably know almost as much about this stuff as I do.

[Chinook]

I have little doubt that SA will remain a relatively compe ive for the life of LMA's deal, barring injury. In that regard, it will be hard to rag on PATFO. But they could have done so much more and didn't.

[coachmac87]

I never said PAFTO did well trying to get Paul. If you recall, I never wanted Paul, so I don't care one way or another if they could have gotten him. I do think Pop had a plan for the roster and wasn't going to ask CP3 to pick the personnel, which makes a ton of sense. That turned off Paul, though, not the team not getting rid of Aldridge, which seems to have been your original belief. They could have dumped him if they really wanted to.

I think PATFO underestimated Houston as a legit threat to lure him away..and once they jumped on board Spurs were ed..As we all said Spurs needed to make moves in order to fit in Paul..

Houston really didn't and had a better immediate roster to sell..:plus Harden being a friend..So Paul pulled the trigger.

Spurs couldn't be as aggressive as Houston because they weren't gonna make major changes and risk it all for nothing..waaay different then the situation with Tiago/LMA

[SAGirl]

"The Pau signing is giving us flexibility to make a big trade later! Don't worry about the cap, LMA and DG will opt out anyway!" - PATFO slurpers just a month ago

Can't wait for Danny's loyalty extension next.

I am thinking Danny may sign for more years in a moderate contract similar to the one he has now.

All these guards in the team lately, and all these loyalty contracts, I am sure PATFO would love to have Danny back in a similar contract. If he wants to go higher I have doubts.

[vy65]

That wasn't your point. Your point was that the uncertainty with Aldridge hurt the team's chances with Paul. Presumably, you thought that Paul didn't want LMA, because you tried to make that point in this thread after ing about Aldridge's contract over and over. The truth is, if this extension had happened earlier (which it legally couldn't have happened before Paul decided to go to Houston), it may have helped get Paul, not hurt. It's one thing to not admit you were mistaken. I get that. I don't get you always acting dismissive about it, though.

My point was totally relevant to yours. I said you didn't know why Paul made the statement about Aldridge, and you didn't. 99 percent of the folks on here didn't like the off-season. Trying to act like that was your thesis is silly.

No, my point was that re-signing the guy who’s uncertain status 4 months ago was cited as being the reason Paul didn’t choose the Spurs is pretty spectacular evidence of incompetence. That’s why I quoted an article saying that Paul didn’t choose the Spurs because of uncertainty over LMA. You should use your words next time and ask what I thought that meant instead of — to use your word — dismissively presuming you know what I meant.

You suggested that LMA was trade bait to make room for Paul — which also is pretty spectacular evidence of incompetence as the Spurs should have done dilligence on what sort of roster they’d need to entice Paul and learned he’d want LMA there. Compounding this issue is the fact that the Spurs seriously thought they had a chance at Paul (despite apparently not having done their homework) as evidenced by the whole Pau fiasco.

That has been the one and only point I made - the Spurs didn’t do their homework on Paul, which is pretty good evidence on incompetence on their part. Your presumption that I meant “Paul didn’t want LMA” — when I never said nor meant as much — is a pretty good indicator why your posts are fascinating but irrelevant.

[John B]

I don't get it. Is this strategy that Spurs value LMA so much to build his stock for better trade value?

[NASpurs]