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    They actually gave him only $31 Million more than he was already guaranteed. This is what I think it his contract looks like:

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    2017-2018 $21,461,010
    2018-2019 $22,347,015
    2019-2020 $24,134,776
    2020-2021 $25,922,537

    That'd be him opting out and getting a new $72.4M/3 extension. If you take out the option year and only count $7 Million of his last year, you have $31,124,015. Honestly not bad, but it's similar to Parker's last deal.
    In his first public comments since inking the deal that could keep him in a Spurs uniform through the 2022 season, the five-time All-Star suggested a clean-the-air meeting this summer with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich paved the way for the extension.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...on-with-spurs/

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    Wait, I thought he opted in for 2018-19, and the extension doesn't start until 2019-20. So, I thought the Spurs had him wrapped up until 2021-2022 (though only 7 mill was guaranteed that last year) . I'm probably wrong. You're the cap guy.
    Everything I've read suggested the same.

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    Actually, I stand corrected. More details coming out:


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    Woj originally reported what you heard, but he backtracked last night.

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    Lowe claims Spurs knew Aldridge would pick up his option either way, so really they gave him a 2/$50M extension, which could be 1/$33M if they so choose. I realize the criticism stems from personal dislike and is residual from their highly questionable off season, but given the lack of a realistic equal or better alternative, it was a no brainer.

    Lowe also basically said what I've said all along, which is that it's a marriage of convenience and though they're not thrilled with their current overall predicament, they felt it was the best they could do and that they'll be able to get off money if a superstar ever wants to sign with them (yeah, right).

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    Lowe claims Spurs knew Aldridge would pick up his option either way, so really they gave him a 2/$50M extension, which could be 1/$33M if they so choose. I realize the criticism stems from personal dislike and is residual from their highly questionable off season, but given the lack of a realistic equal or better alternative, it was a no brainer.

    Lowe also basically said what I've said all along, which is that it's a marriage of convenience and though they're not thrilled with their current overall predicament, they felt it was the best they could do and that they'll be able to get off money if a superstar ever wants to sign with them (yeah, right).
    As long as LMA is the 1st guy who touches the ball in the half-court, if he gets down there in time, almost everytime... he'll be happy as a clam.
    If Kawhi is bringing that ball up the court and pounding it out for an iso a bunch when he hustled his butt to gain position... His effort will become questionable for more than that particular game.
    It will last for games.

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    Now that this bag got extended, he has no motivation to play hard. this stupid front office. Run when you can Kawhi.

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    I haven't read any other posts, so I'm just diving in here with my take.

    I'm pissed off. I was against the Spurs signing LMA from the outset 2 years ago. He's a jump-shooting, slow-moving big man who doesn't fit in today's modern NBA and doesn't fit in with how the Spurs play. He's clogged up our offense since day 1, we shoot less 3's (25th in the league in attempted 3's last year) and space the floor less with him on it, and he's unable to defend because he's too slow. Whenever he gets switched on D it's an absolute nightmare. Happened several times in the GSW series with Curry and he just got torched.

    On top of him not fitting with the Spurs on the court, he doesn't fit off of it. For the past 2 summers he's been telling his entourage that he made a mistake signing with the spurs and that he wants to be traded. And we finally tried to trade him this past summer during the draft, but nobody wanted his bum-ass. Rumor is we couldn't even get a 1st round pick for him. And yet we RE-sign him...

    This is all because Pop is an arrogant SOB who wants to show that he doesn't give a damn about the fans opinion and that he knows best. It's also the small market mentality of "well having a pretty good player is better than not having pretty good player." But were better without him. We've gone away from Spurs basketball with him on our team. It doesn't matter how many jumpers he makes on a given night. He slows down our team and makes other players (like Danny Green) useless on offense because of the new lack of open 3 point opportunities with LMA on the court.

    He's my least favorite Spurs player of all time. I just feel so betrayed by the re-signing. I mean for God's sake we were booing the out of Aldridge last year in Games 3 and 4 vs Golden State at home and Pop just decided to flat-out bench him in the 2nd half of game 4. I mean Pop even publicly criticized him in press conferences after the games! Has Pop ever singled out a player like that to the media? That relationship was just toxic.

    This is just wrong. You don't re-sign somebody because you're unable to trade them. This makes no sense. I'm just disgusted. We still have a great team, but Aldridge drags us down. Period.

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    I haven't read any other posts, so I'm just diving in here with my take.

    I'm pissed off. I was against the Spurs signing LMA from the outset 2 years ago. He's a jump-shooting, slow-moving big man who doesn't fit in today's modern NBA and doesn't fit in with how the Spurs play. He's clogged up our offense since day 1, we shoot less 3's (25th in the league in attempted 3's last year) and space the floor less with him on it, and he's unable to defend because he's too slow. Whenever he gets switched on D it's an absolute nightmare. Happened several times in the GSW series with Curry and he just got torched.

    On top of him not fitting with the Spurs on the court, he doesn't fit off of it. For the past 2 summers he's been telling his entourage that he made a mistake signing with the spurs and that he wants to be traded. And we finally tried to trade him this past summer during the draft, but nobody wanted his bum-ass. Rumor is we couldn't even get a 1st round pick for him. And yet we RE-sign him...

    This is all because Pop is an arrogant SOB who wants to show that he doesn't give a damn about the fans opinion and that he knows best. It's also the small market mentality of "well having a pretty good player is better than not having pretty good player." But were better without him. We've gone away from Spurs basketball with him on our team. It doesn't matter how many jumpers he makes on a given night. He slows down our team and makes other players (like Danny Green) useless on offense because of the new lack of open 3 point opportunities with LMA on the court.

    He's my least favorite Spurs player of all time. I just feel so betrayed by the re-signing. I mean for God's sake we were booing the out of Aldridge last year in Games 3 and 4 vs Golden State at home and Pop just decided to flat-out bench him in the 2nd half of game 4. I mean Pop even publicly criticized him in press conferences after the games! Has Pop ever singled out a player like that to the media? That relationship was just toxic.

    This is just wrong. You don't re-sign somebody because you're unable to trade them. This makes no sense. I'm just disgusted. We still have a great team, but Aldridge drags us down. Period.
    Decent rant. Now hate everything about this season no matter what.
    I demand you hold fast on this.

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    Spurs committed to mediocrity for the next 5 years and spurs fans rejoice. SMH

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    Aldridge is not the one who clogged up the Spurs' offense. The offense they planned for him was much more dynamic than what we saw last year. They've been hurt they their inability to commit to that kind of offense, from Kawhi becoming a superstar to playing a relatively unskilled Dedmon, to their over-reliance on the motion-weak entry pass. His plays had no rhythm to them. And yes, that's in large part his fault for not sealing well enough when he did get the ball, and ideally, he would not let his touches affect his effort level. But he is what he is, honestly.

    The Spurs need to move away from Kawhi's iso plays. That does't mean that he wouldn't get a lot of touches and shoot the shots he likes. But rather than he getting there by himself, they need to make them part of action. Have him set some screens to get guards on him at the elbow. Run some pin-downs for him. Cross-screen him into the low-post. Do predictable things you can run off-ball action with, things where Kawhi has a list of options and contingencies. It'll make everyone better.

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    Spurs committed to mediocrity for the next 5 years and spurs fans rejoice. SMH
    Three years, not five.

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    If it ends the drama with him wanting out i am fine with it. All that matters is Leonard right now and his health status..

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    Three years, not five.
    I don’t see a path to non-mediocrity with LMA clogging 20% of the cap until 2022

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    I don’t see a path to non-mediocrity with LMA clogging 20% of the cap until 2022
    The deal only goes through 20-21, and that year only has $7 Million guaranteed. Woj reported the terms incorrectly originally.

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    Spurfan: “ at PATFO will never get a star here no one wants to play in SA”
    Also Spurfan: “Wtf PATFO are messing up our cap so well never get a superstar!”

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    Aldridge is not the one who clogged up the Spurs' offense. The offense they planned for him was much more dynamic than what we saw last year. They've been hurt they their inability to commit to that kind of offense, from Kawhi becoming a superstar to playing a relatively unskilled Dedmon, to their over-reliance on the motion-weak entry pass. His plays had no rhythm to them. And yes, that's in large part his fault for not sealing well enough when he did get the ball, and ideally, he would not let his touches affect his effort level. But he is what he is, honestly.

    The Spurs need to move away from Kawhi's iso plays. That does't mean that he wouldn't get a lot of touches and shoot the shots he likes. But rather than he getting there by himself, they need to make them part of action. Have him set some screens to get guards on him at the elbow. Run some pin-downs for him. Cross-screen him into the low-post. Do predictable things you can run off-ball action with, things where Kawhi has a list of options and contingencies. It'll make everyone better.
    Gotta email those plays to Pop homie

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    39 years old Pau Gasol is under contract for 3 seasons more...2021

    Lamarcus "My touches and Stats" Aldridge said he wants to retire as Spur while has an extensión until 2022...

    What a cruel irony that Pop retires in 2-3 seasons and Kawhi won't have a loyalty contract in his late 30's when older and clearly inferior players already had one.

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    Can't believe Pop will retire leaving Kawhi and the Spurs with LMA as 2nd best player and a bunch of DLeague guys like Paul, Forbes, White...Can't believe this. I'm getting a headache just thinking about it.

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    Holy , it really did come out of nowhere.

    Also, this lends credence to the idea that the Spurs were more worried about him walking than they were inclined to get rid of him.
    Do you mean that you think the main reason the Spurs tried trading him early in the off-season is more because they thought he was going to walk? I thought it was most likely based off of his play in the playoffs than anything else.

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    Do you mean that you think the main reason the Spurs tried trading him early in the off-season is more because they thought he was going to walk? I thought it was most likely based off of his play in the playoffs than anything else.
    A lot of fans did. And of course, LMA could be lying. But assuming he's not, that would suggest the Spurs wanted to keep him around. LMA may have been the one to ask out, and PATFO panicked and tried to move him. That whole situation soured Paul on the team, blah blah.

    I was never of the belief that the team was trying to rid of him, though. They had a wish list of players they wanted, but that was it.

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    Lowe claims Spurs knew Aldridge would pick up his option either way, so really they gave him a 2/$50M extension, which could be 1/$33M if they so choose. I realize the criticism stems from personal dislike and is residual from their highly questionable off season, but given the lack of a realistic equal or better alternative, it was a no brainer.

    Lowe also basically said what I've said all along, which is that it's a marriage of convenience and though they're not thrilled with their current overall predicament, they felt it was the best they could do and that they'll be able to get off money if a superstar ever wants to sign with them (yeah, right).
    Interesting. So the contract only goes for 1 year after next season, with the 2nd year being the non-guaranteed year?

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    Interesting. So the contract only goes for 1 year after next season, with the 2nd year being the non-guaranteed year?
    Yes. The $72.4M/3 included both next year's option, and that final year that is only guaranteed for $7 Million.

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    Not a bad contract at all then. Gives the Spurs some short term stability and they're also not locked into it too long.

    What do you think of the contract and length of it?

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    Not a bad contract at all then. Gives the Spurs some short term stability and they're also not locked into it too long.

    What do you think of the contract and length of it?
    The Spurs can survive it if LMA remains the same. It'll be a good contract if they can get LMA to become more consistent. I don't think it will be damaging, though. I don't like partially guaranteed deals, but it gives the Spurs some protection in case they don't want to keep LMA that year (I think they will though). It's not the contract I was hoping for (I'd rather have had a fully guaranteed $40M/2 than $50M/2 with only $33 Million guaranteed), but it's a fair deal for a guy they want to make into a legit championship anchor.

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