40 million a year for two extremely soft bigs

[DAF86]

Gobert is making more than LMA on their extensions.

He's probably one of the few that's worth it, tbh. His style is the picture perfect example of what NBA bigmen should be nowadays.

[Chinook]

He's probably one of the few that's worth it, tbh. His style is the picture perfect example of what NBA bigmen should be nowadays.

Yet, LMA was just as good of a rim-protector last year. Funny that.

[DAF86]

Yet, LMA was just as good of a rim-protector last year. Funny that.

I never had any issues with Aldridge's defense, tbh. His inefficient offensive style is the fatal flaw that bugs me, tbh.

[cjw]

Yet, LMA was just as good of a rim-protector last year. Funny that.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument! And Gobert being well-rounded? He's a fraction of the player LMA is on offense.

And some people don't know you can actually look salaries up online. It's what's in their head that matters.

[DAF86]

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument! And Gobert being well-rounded? He's a fraction of the player LMA is on offense.

And some people don't know you can actually look salaries up online. It's what's in their head that matters.

Gobert offenisve numbers last season: OWS: 8.3 - OBPM: 1.4
Aldridge's offensive numbers last season: OWS: 3.5 - OBPM: -0.3

https://www.basketball-reference.com...goberru01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com...aldrila01.html

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good argument!

[TimDunkem]

Right, that one pic is worth way more than a series win.

That wasn't what he was arguing against with that picture you dumb, crazy .

[Chinook]

Meanwhile a guy like Capela can't finish against mismatches because he has no offensive skill. Houston is so ahead of the game.

[BackHome]

Only player who I have no idea why we signed is Pau He sucked last season was terrible in playoffs and yet we sign him to this crazy contract. Pop and RC screwing us again.

[DAF86]

Meanwhile a guy like Capela can't finish against mismatches because he has no offensive skill. Houston is so ahead of the game.

You mean, unlike Aldridge?

And since we are at it:

Capela's offensive numbers: 3.8 OWS - 0.0 OBPM

https://www.basketball-reference.com...capelca01.html

Still better than Aldridges.

Literally all you have to do, as a bigmen, to have a better offenisve impact than Adridge, is set screens and don't be a cancer asking for the ball.

[TimDunkem]

You mean, unlike Aldridge?

And since we are at it:

Capela's offensive numbers: 3.8 OWS - 0.0 OBPM

https://www.basketball-reference.com...capelca01.html

Still better than Aldridges.

Literally all you have to do, as a bigmen, to have a better offenisve impact that Aldridge is set screens and don't ask for the ball.

Inb4 he makes a chart of every obscure advanced Stat possible to tell you why you're wrong.

[DAF86]

Inb4 he makes a chart of every obscure advanced Stat possible to tell you why you're wrong.

No, he won't. He's an old school fella, still in love with trad ional two bigmen lineups and post ups. He doesn't do advanced stats, or else he wouldn't be arguing in favour of LA.

[TimDunkem]

No, he won't. He's an old school fella, still in love with trad ional two bigmen lineups and post ups. He doesn't do advanced stats, or else he wouldn't be arguing in favour of LA.

Guess you missed the debate with me in the Kyle Anderson thread where he stayed up all night coming up with stats trying to debate why he's "much better" than T.J. Warren.

[DAF86]

Guess you missed the debate with me in the Kyle Anderson thread where he stayed up all night coming up with stats trying to debate why he's "much better" than T.J. Warren.

I guess he does Advanced stats when it fits his agenda.

[TimDunkem]

Just wait until he starts spinning them.

"Kyle's stats are an extremely small sample size and he may be a pussy who won't shoot anyway, but they're slightly better than Warren's so he's so much better!"

[Chinook]

Just wait until he starts spinning them.

"Kyle's stats are an extremely small sample size and he may be a pussy who won't shoot anyway, but they're slightly better than Warren's so he's so much better!"

You've been so ing pathetic since the LMA news came out. The "advanced stats" that you're referencing are your own percentile splits. You tried to claim Warren was a good offensive player by citing certain areas where he scores well in certain situation, and I countered to say that Kyle was higher on that list in most of the categories or in the categories that mattered more. Then of course, you acted like seven rebounds was essentially the same as five, only to show that you didn't understand the context of the rebounding stats in the first place.

It wasn't me trying to whip out some advanced stats to make an argument for Kyle. It was you trying to use stats and showing you don't know how. Awesome. And the sad thing is, because you tried, I was open to a regular conversation about it.

[Chinook]

No, he won't. He's an old school fella, still in love with trad ional two bigmen lineups and post ups. He doesn't do advanced stats, or else he wouldn't be arguing in favour of LA.

I feel like you're purposefully misunderstanding my view if you believe I want LMA to start at PF and not C. Like you must not have read anything I've said for the past two years.

[Chinook]

You mean, unlike Aldridge?

And since we are at it:

Capela's offensive numbers: 3.8 OWS - 0.0 OBPM

https://www.basketball-reference.com...capelca01.html

Still better than Aldridges.

Literally all you have to do, as a bigmen, to have a better offenisve impact than Adridge, is set screens and don't be a cancer asking for the ball.

See, this is fundamentally misunderstanding how these stats work. Capela having better stats doesn't make him a better offensive player. Green had a better OBPM than Parker last year. I guess you're going to say now that Tony was a worse offensive player than Danny? All Capela has to do is rebound and dunk, so him being good at those things makes his stats good. But when the Rockets need a bucket, and Clint has the ball against a wing, that ball isn't going in most of the time. That lets you guard him completely differently than it should. Imagine Clint as the second option on an offense. Awful. Wouldn't have to guard him.

[tholdren]

That wasn't what he was arguing against with that picture you dumb, crazy .

Awwwww you mad again emoji man?.... keep name calling, its a great look.

[TimDunkem]

Awwwww you mad again emoji man?.... keep name calling, its a great look.

No. Just calling a dumbass a dumbass.

[dabom]

Fathead is trash.

[TimDunkem]

You've been so ing pathetic since the LMA news came out. The "advanced stats" that you're referencing are your own percentile splits. You tried to claim Warren was a good offensive player by citing certain areas where he scores well in certain situation, and I countered to say that Kyle was higher on that list in most of the categories or in the categories that mattered more. Then of course, you acted like seven rebounds was essentially the same as five, only to show that you didn't understand the context of the rebounding stats in the first place.

It wasn't me trying to whip out some advanced stats to make an argument for Kyle. It was you trying to use stats and showing you don't know how. Awesome. And the sad thing is, because you tried, I was open to a regular conversation about it.

1.You cited extremely small sample sizes.
2.No I didn't. I pointed out that Kyle had the edge in rebounding.
3. You did in fact start whipping out your advanced metrics as soon as Warren's obvious strengths over Kyle were being pointed out.

Damn. Not only are you bad at player analysis but you're a liar too.

[TimDunkem]

You can cite all the advanced metrics you want. The skills of heart and aggressiveness matter to a point. If the big-headed pussy isn't going to shoot, or is going to pass the ball and kill the offense at a crucial point in the game then he isn't the better player.

[Chinook]

1.You cited extremely small sample sizes.

Empty statement and one that is misused by folks who pretend to understand stats. Depending on the stat and testing method, it may only take a couple-dozen minutes to get a good confidence interval.

2.No I didn't. I pointed out that Kyle had the edge in rebounding.

You consistently downplayed it, as if it's a trivial difference. It's not, it's 40 ing percent.

3. You did in fact start whipping out your advanced metrics as soon as Warren's obvious strengths over Kyle were being pointed out.

ing pathetic. Warren's "obvious strengths" according to you were him running PnRs and cutting. There was a third one -- I think it was coming off some type of screen -- but they all relied on you trying to use stats. This was all in your lame attempt to say Warren would be a better player than he is now if Pop had him.

Again, what a silly-ass hill for you to fight on. ing TJ Warren. To still be butt-hurt about him after all these weeks.

[TimDunkem]

Empty statement and one that is misused by folks who pretend to understand stats. Depending on the stat and testing method, it may only take a couple-dozen minutes to get a good confidence interval.



You consistently downplayed it, as if it's a trivial difference. It's not, it's 40 ing percent.



ing pathetic. Warren's "obvious strengths" according to you were him running PnRs and cutting. There was a third one -- I think it was coming off some type of screen -- but they all relied on you trying to use stats. This was all in your lame attempt to say Warren would be a better player than he is now if Pop had him.

Again, what a silly-ass hill for you to fight on. ing TJ Warren. To still be butt-hurt about him after all these weeks.

Yeah, talk about pathetic. Every argument is silly when it doesn't fit your narrative, huh? Fathead is so much better therefore no other comparable player could possibly show more with the same opportunities on this team, right?

And, again, it's not the player. It's you trying to use these small samples to make your case that Kyle could be anything more than a backup in the NBA. Your boy sucks and no small amount of advanced stats is going to prove your case that he's better than Warren or any other half
-decent small forward in the league. He's a pussy and there's a reason the Spurs aren't looking to extend him. Try watching the games instead of staying up all night pouring over the CBA and your advanced stats, got.

[Chinook]

Yeah, talk about pathetic. Every argument is silly when it doesn't fit your narrative, huh? Fathead is so much better therefore no other comparable player could possibly show more with the same opportunities on this team, right?

Pop woulda fixed him

these small samples

Your boy sucks and no small amount of advanced stats is going to prove your case that he's better than Warren or any other half -decent small forward in the league. He's a pussy and there's a reason the Spurs aren't looking to extend him. Try watching the games instead of staying up all night pouring over the CBA and your advanced stats, got.

I'd be inclined to believe you're more concerned about Anderson sucking than Warren (because god knows you've been nothing but a broken record on Kyle), but you were way too keen to shill a relative nobody like Warren to believe it was going to be the same for just any player, trying to protect the dude's honor like a guy on a message board was some type of threat to him.

Wipe that snot off your face and stand up. The season is about to start, and there's no reason to let something so trivial stick with you all year.