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    This totally escapes him.

    He just blindly misses a big part of why his man was elected.
    LOL, how so? Maybe because he's trying to make a point on a spun assumption on things I never said. You're still upset because it didn't work for you in the Weinstein thread. Just stop it. You're not as smart as you think you are.

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    Hillary would have been more Repug than Bill, who signed FIVE ing laws that implemented major oligarchy strategic objectives.

    But Hillary would not have put destructive assholes like sleepy Benny, Pruitt, Zinke, Pai, JimmyRicky, etc in her cabinet "to destroy the administrative state", would no have put extremist oliggarchy assholes on SCOTUS.

    Next up, the oligarchy will hand Trash a oligarchy politicized shill to nominate for Fed chairperson, destroying the Fed's so-called independence.

    Remember how horrible Ayn-Rand, St Ronnie-tool that Greenspan was, America is still ed up from Greenspan's Fed.
    And she was your candidate. You indirectly pointed out your hypocrisy. God damn, you're stupid.

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    Clinton was relatively centrist is the point. Dems were different back then had the blue dog Democrats which was more moderate and conservative in the south. It's how they controlled the house even when Reagan was winning 49 states (look at popular vote here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit...lections,_1984 people didn't just vote straight ticket all the time back then. Dems got more house votes in 1984). Democrats are way more progressive today and would not pass that kind of bill. By today's standards that bill is conservative so it's bizarre you're complaining about it
    have to disagree with the notion that the Democrats are progressive. In a nuts , since Reagan, both parties have been far more similar than dissimilar, especially in regards to their support of neoliberal policies (free trade, privatization, support of covert operations, agreement on military expenditures, lack of regulation on wall street, lack of support for unions).

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    have to disagree with the notion that the Democrats are progressive. In a nuts , since Reagan, both parties have been far more similar than dissimilar, especially in regards to their support of neoliberal policies (free trade, privatization, support of covert operations, agreement on military expenditures, lack of regulation on wall street, lack of support for unions).
    they are compared to where they in the 1980s and 90s when the Democrats were still winning the South. People would vote for Reagan and then Dems the rest of tickey. Southern Dems who called themselves only blue dogs iirc were pretty conservative. In terms of Gay marriage, marijuana legalization, trans stuff, Obama criminal justice and sentencing reforms/pardons, and now with Bernie and Warren on economics way left of 25-30 years. The three strikes crime bill would get like zero Democrat votes i would think. The crime bill even added a bunch of new death penalty categories and got rid of education programs for prisoners iirc

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    Who said her agenda was conservative? Holy , for trying to spin things and write a narrative based on things that weren't even said, you're pretty ing bad at it.
    You’re the one bringing up Bill passing by compromising with conservatives, you stupid cunt sponge.

    this senile old talked himself in circles to the point where he has no ing idea what his point was to begin with.

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    We just need Hillary to publicly support the border wall, Muslim bans, a full Obamacare repeal, ending DACA, etc. since re ed gots like Chucho and Trump are too stupid to do anything but reflexively oppose everything she says.

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    they are compared to where they in the 1980s and 90s when the Democrats were still winning the South. People would vote for Reagan and then Dems the rest of tickey. Southern Dems who called themselves only blue dogs iirc were pretty conservative. In terms of Gay marriage, marijuana legalization, trans stuff, Obama criminal justice and sentencing reforms/pardons, and now with Bernie and Warren on economics way left of 25-30 years. The three strikes crime bill would get like zero Democrat votes i would think. The crime bill even added a bunch of new death penalty categories and got rid of education programs for prisoners iirc
    i would agree that the support for something similar to a crime bill or a welfare reform act would likely falter but the reason why i would balk at calling them progressive is because they would stop short of creating the sort of systemic economic and social reforms that are necessary in regards to creating greater economic equality. that and they continue to support neocon foreign policy.

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    You’re the one bringing up Bill passing by compromising with conservatives, you stupid cunt sponge.

    this senile old talked himself in circles to the point where he has no ing idea what his point was to begin with.
    You said she couldn't work with conservatives. I said her husband did asked why you think she is incapable of compromise.

    Man, you twisted words and posts and still failed. LOL.

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    We just need Hillary to publicly support the border wall, Muslim bans, a full Obamacare repeal, ending DACA, etc. since re ed gots like Chucho and Trump are too stupid to do anything but reflexively oppose everything she says.
    LOL, rage post.

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    LOL, rage post.
    But no denial

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    Sounds like your saying her husband was a Repub, which seems pretty wishy-washy, which is a characteristic she has exhibited all so well, which is just one of the many problems with her.
    Trump has flip flopped more than that already. Do you have a problem with him?

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    That's my hometown. That library is in the hood but has a pretty cool lab for kids to immerse themselves in the study of ciences and computers.

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    You said she couldn't work with conservatives. I said her husband did asked why you think she is incapable of compromise.

    Man, you twisted words and posts and still failed. LOL.
    senile old who talked himself into circles and can’t even comprehend his own logic besides “HILLARY BAD HILLARY VERY BAD”

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    Important thread

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    Trump has flip flopped more than that already. Do you have a problem with him?
    I've already said numerous times I do. He's an unfit POTUS.

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    senile old who talked himself into circles and can’t even comprehend his own logic besides “HILLARY BAD HILLARY VERY BAD”

    Sure, sure. Keep trying. It's pretty simple- you said she couldn't pass her Agenda.

    I said Bill could, why couldn't she?

    You start twisting, spinning, lying and then rage. And then smilies and name calling.

    Failing on your own terms, even failing on trying to boil it down to something I didn't say or hint. Just LOLZY.

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    another guy who semen shields incessantly for Trump yet conveniently “doesn’t like Trump”.

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    Sure, sure. Keep trying. It's pretty simple- you said she couldn't pass her Agenda.

    I said Bill could, why couldn't she?

    You start twisting, spinning, lying and then rage. And then smilies and name calling.

    Failing on your own terms, even failing on trying to boil it down to something I didn't say or hint. Just LOLZY.
    senile old still doesn’t get it, then thinks “If I just write lots of incoherent words then I win”.

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    senile old still doesn’t get it, then thinks “If I just write lots of incoherent words then I win”.
    That's what you're doing.

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    Does it bother you that much that you couldn't even lie, twist and rage your way to a "win"?

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    I said Bill could, why couldn't she?
    The same reason nobody does the Macarena or listens to Collective Soul - it’s not 1996 anymore. The times have changed, even if your old senile ass hasn’t.

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    Does it bother you that much that you couldn't even lie, twist and rage your way to a "win"?
    senile old

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    The same reason nobody does the Macarena or listens to Collective Soul - it’s not 1996 anymore. The times have changed, even if your old senile ass hasn’t.

    So, because it's not the 90's, she is not capable of compromise? LOL. Wow. No faith in your candidate or your party. And it's the Right that doesn't want to work with the other side?

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    It does.

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    And it's the Right that doesn't want to work with the other side?
    Yes.

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