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    W bullying s in the paint.

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    " But Librellllsssssssssss"

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    " But Librellllsssssssssss"

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    not sure why everyone seems so surprised. russia and the U.S. both meddle in elections, and they have meddled in each other's elections before. and as technology advances, they will do it in whatever way optimizes their efforts. but the U.S. and Russia have interfered with 1 out of every 9 elections held throughout the world since WWII (with the U.S. leading the way).

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    The oligarchy/VRWC/Repugs started dividing, polarizing America in 80s, and esp early 90s when Gingrich ran Congress. The Russians recognized a divided America is weakened America, giving Pootin/Russia an opening to increase its influence from a weakened socio/economic/industrial base of Russia.

    So Pootin, outsmarting the out of fat, incompetent, teevee-watching America, exploited the polarization that the Repugs and their racist, xenophobic, paranoid, Christian supremacist started decades earlier. This explains why Repugs are so enamored of Pootin and his murderous Macho Man autocracy.

    There is no doubt that Mueller, etc will find the the Repugs were informed by Pootin's people that Pootin was attacking Hillary, so Repugs knew Pootin would want to be repaid (lifting sanctions, letting the $500B Exxon deal go through)

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    not sure why everyone seems so surprised. russia and the U.S. both meddle in elections, and they have meddled in each other's elections before. and as technology advances, they will do it in whatever way optimizes their efforts. but the U.S. and Russia have interfered with 1 out of every 9 elections held throughout the world since WWII (with the U.S. leading the way).
    How many have colluded? Russia has your personal information such as SSN, bank records. Etc. You comfortable with that?

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    How many have colluded? Russia has your personal information such as SSN, bank records. Etc. You comfortable with that?
    I'm comfortable with evidence. Whether there was collusion or not is still not a proven fact-and my perspective is not based upon Trump. He would deserve whatever fate he would meet. If one were to want to successfully impeach him they better have evidence because an impeachment is essentially a trial. As to amping up tensions with Russia, that too should be justified. It would seem odd to me that there are so many (even if rightfully so) concerned about Trump's inability to shut his pie hole when it comes to going off on Korea but they have no problem about continuing to accuse the Russians of committing an act of war against the U.S. as a result of their involvement in our last elections. This is the modern day version of the Red Menace mechanism used to fuel the Cold War (IF Russia had my information, btw, it couldn't be that much different than the U.S. government having my information. In fact, what would be more egregious: a foreign en y invading my personal information or my own country doing the same?)

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    "calling the GOP back to the center"

    Repugs haven't been anywhere near the "center" for 40 years.

    The Repug s have been bought out to extreme, treasonous rightwingism by the oligarchy.

    Any Repug non-extremist will be primaried, outspent, defeated.





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    "calling the GOP back to the center"

    Repugs haven't been anywhere near the "center" for 40 years.

    The Repug s have been bought out to extreme, treasonous rightwingism by the oligarchy.

    Any Repug non-extremist will be primaried, outspent, defeated.




    that is the dangerous aspect of the current political spectrum. Whereas the Democrats have shifted to right of center, the GOP is now on the precipice of straight out bat- crazy.

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    cry some more Put

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    "This nothingburger sure costs a lot of money!" -taxpayer
    You cheered the 8th Benghazi inquiry.

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    Obama Administration, Hillary Clinton Covered Up Their Deep, Corrupt Ties To Russia

    Russian Scandal: As the old saying goes, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. That's certainly true with the growing scandal over the Russians' extortion racket in the U.S., possible bribes to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation, and the FBI's curious decision not to reveal the Russians' activities and ties to the Obama administration.

    This week, IBD discussed new reports from the Daily Caller, The Hill and Circa.com, of how the Russians, through their state nuclear company Rosatom, engaged in a campaign of bribery, extortion, money laundering and racketeering to gain control over U.S. nuclear assets in the private sector.

    Aided by an American informant, the FBI gathered a mountain of evidence that showed, for instance, that Russia had corrupted an American uranium trucking company through bribes.

    But that was the least of it. As The Hill reported, eyewitness accounts and do ents indicate that the Russian nuclear pirates spent millions of dollars to "benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation."

    At the time this was happening, Rosatom was seeking to acquire a stake in Canadian-based Uranium One, which then controlled close to 20% of U.S. uranium supplies.

    So why would Russian nuclear officials send money to the Clinton Foundation? As we've pointed out, Hillary Clinton was then secretary of state. In that position, she sat on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), the panel that decides whether strategic foreign investments such as Rosatom's will be allowed to proceed.

    Despite the FBI's evidence of bribery, extortion and racketeering, Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder and other members of the Obama administration approved of Rosatom's takeover of Uranium One.

    One hand washes the other. The money flowed, and what remained of the investigation was hushed up. The investigation ran for two years, from 2009 to 2010, and then went quiet, right after CFIUS approved of Rosatom's purchase of Uranium One assets. In 2014, the Justice Department issued a few handslaps in what appeared to be major crimes, but that was all. By then, Hillary had already left office, and Holder was about to.

    The question, as always, is why?

    Well, certainly greed. The Clinton Foundation lined its pockets. By one estimate, it took in $145 million from investors linked to Uranium One.

    But there was also politics. President Obama, despite his rocky political beginnings in 2009, remained popular with average Americans. He wanted a legacy of success, and knew that Hillary Clinton could help ensure that.

    But Clinton, his presumed successor, had to appear clean if she had any hope of being elected president herself. So a blanket of silence was thrown over the whole criminal enterprise.

    Unfortunately, it goes even deeper than that.

    As we wrote in 2016, based on Peter Schweizer's well-do ented book, "Clinton Cash," Clinton and her associates were deeply involved with the Russians on many levels. That's what makes her recent protestations about being cheated out of the presidency by a Russian-Trump conspiracy so laughable.

    Hillary Clinton's campaign chief, John Podesta, served on the board of a small Russian energy company, Joule Unlimited, along with Russian officials. It took in $35 million from a Russian government fund, of course linked to Vladimir Putin. That money came just two months after Podesta joined the board.

    Podesta's own Center for American Progress took in $5.25 million from the Sea Change Foundation from 2009 to 2013. What was the Sea Change Foundation? A somewhat questionable group that received a chunk of cash from a Bermuda-based group called Klein Ltd., which appears to have ties to the Russians.

    Didn't know that? Neither the Democrats nor media bothered to tell you.

    Nor did Podesta. He was required by law to inform the government of that relationship, but it slipped his mind.

    But even more troubling is the fact that Hillary Clinton recruited U.S. high-tech biggies such as Google, Cisco and Intel to help Russia set up a high-tech hub under the questionable au es of the Russian Skoldovo foundation.

    That group seems to have been set up by Putin-crony and Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg explicitly for the purpose of sending advanced U.S. technology to Skoldovo, a kind of Russian Silicon Valley that Putin wanted built.

    But its aims weren't altruistic.

    Of the 28 U.S., European and Russian firms that took part in that effort, 17 were donors to the Clinton Foundation.

    FBI Assistant Special Agent Lucia Ziobro in 2014 sent a letter to those private U.S. companies taking part, which stated: "The FBI believes the true motives of the Russian partners, who are often funded by the government, is to gain access to classified, sensitive, and emerging technology from companies."

    If Hillary Clinton's State Department ever objected to this arrangement, we're unaware of it.

    There's of course much more. We've written on it extensively, following the lead of many diligent news organizations that have worked hard to uncover the details. But, curiously, the mainstream media remain mum, or report only perfunctorily on the details.

    The fact is, as we've said repeatedly, there is a Russian scandal of epic proportions, one involving bribery, racketeering, money laundering, extortion and control of the nation's nuclear assets.

    But, no, it doesn't involve Donald Trump. It involves the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton and President Obama, under whose administration the Russians felt emboldened to openly give money to government officials and their allies to gain favors and control over a vital national security resource.

    Given all this, it's time to end the farcical investigation currently being conducted by Robert Mueller. A new investigation should be started of the very probable violations of the law committed by the Obama administration, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

    Neither Obama, nor Clinton, nor the Democratic Party have been forthcoming on this troubling dalliance with a country that has never been friendly to the U.S., and which even today has nuclear weapons pointed in our direction. It's time that the Justice Department and Congress get to the bottom of this.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ies-to-russia/

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    Obama Administration, Hillary Clinton Covered Up Their Deep, Corrupt Ties To Russia

    Russian Scandal: As the old saying goes, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. That's certainly true with the growing scandal over the Russians' extortion racket in the U.S., possible bribes to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation, and the FBI's curious decision not to reveal the Russians' activities and ties to the Obama administration.

    This week, IBD discussed new reports from the Daily Caller, The Hill and Circa.com, of how the Russians, through their state nuclear company Rosatom, engaged in a campaign of bribery, extortion, money laundering and racketeering to gain control over U.S. nuclear assets in the private sector.

    Aided by an American informant, the FBI gathered a mountain of evidence that showed, for instance, that Russia had corrupted an American uranium trucking company through bribes.

    But that was the least of it. As The Hill reported, eyewitness accounts and do ents indicate that the Russian nuclear pirates spent millions of dollars to "benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation."

    At the time this was happening, Rosatom was seeking to acquire a stake in Canadian-based Uranium One, which then controlled close to 20% of U.S. uranium supplies.

    So why would Russian nuclear officials send money to the Clinton Foundation? As we've pointed out, Hillary Clinton was then secretary of state. In that position, she sat on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), the panel that decides whether strategic foreign investments such as Rosatom's will be allowed to proceed.

    Despite the FBI's evidence of bribery, extortion and racketeering, Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder and other members of the Obama administration approved of Rosatom's takeover of Uranium One.

    One hand washes the other. The money flowed, and what remained of the investigation was hushed up. The investigation ran for two years, from 2009 to 2010, and then went quiet, right after CFIUS approved of Rosatom's purchase of Uranium One assets. In 2014, the Justice Department issued a few handslaps in what appeared to be major crimes, but that was all. By then, Hillary had already left office, and Holder was about to.

    The question, as always, is why?

    Well, certainly greed. The Clinton Foundation lined its pockets. By one estimate, it took in $145 million from investors linked to Uranium One.

    But there was also politics. President Obama, despite his rocky political beginnings in 2009, remained popular with average Americans. He wanted a legacy of success, and knew that Hillary Clinton could help ensure that.

    But Clinton, his presumed successor, had to appear clean if she had any hope of being elected president herself. So a blanket of silence was thrown over the whole criminal enterprise.

    Unfortunately, it goes even deeper than that.

    As we wrote in 2016, based on Peter Schweizer's well-do ented book, "Clinton Cash," Clinton and her associates were deeply involved with the Russians on many levels. That's what makes her recent protestations about being cheated out of the presidency by a Russian-Trump conspiracy so laughable.

    Hillary Clinton's campaign chief, John Podesta, served on the board of a small Russian energy company, Joule Unlimited, along with Russian officials. It took in $35 million from a Russian government fund, of course linked to Vladimir Putin. That money came just two months after Podesta joined the board.

    Podesta's own Center for American Progress took in $5.25 million from the Sea Change Foundation from 2009 to 2013. What was the Sea Change Foundation? A somewhat questionable group that received a chunk of cash from a Bermuda-based group called Klein Ltd., which appears to have ties to the Russians.

    Didn't know that? Neither the Democrats nor media bothered to tell you.

    Nor did Podesta. He was required by law to inform the government of that relationship, but it slipped his mind.

    But even more troubling is the fact that Hillary Clinton recruited U.S. high-tech biggies such as Google, Cisco and Intel to help Russia set up a high-tech hub under the questionable au es of the Russian Skoldovo foundation.

    That group seems to have been set up by Putin-crony and Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg explicitly for the purpose of sending advanced U.S. technology to Skoldovo, a kind of Russian Silicon Valley that Putin wanted built.

    But its aims weren't altruistic.

    Of the 28 U.S., European and Russian firms that took part in that effort, 17 were donors to the Clinton Foundation.

    FBI Assistant Special Agent Lucia Ziobro in 2014 sent a letter to those private U.S. companies taking part, which stated: "The FBI believes the true motives of the Russian partners, who are often funded by the government, is to gain access to classified, sensitive, and emerging technology from companies."

    If Hillary Clinton's State Department ever objected to this arrangement, we're unaware of it.

    There's of course much more. We've written on it extensively, following the lead of many diligent news organizations that have worked hard to uncover the details. But, curiously, the mainstream media remain mum, or report only perfunctorily on the details.

    The fact is, as we've said repeatedly, there is a Russian scandal of epic proportions, one involving bribery, racketeering, money laundering, extortion and control of the nation's nuclear assets.

    But, no, it doesn't involve Donald Trump. It involves the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton and President Obama, under whose administration the Russians felt emboldened to openly give money to government officials and their allies to gain favors and control over a vital national security resource.

    Given all this, it's time to end the farcical investigation currently being conducted by Robert Mueller. A new investigation should be started of the very probable violations of the law committed by the Obama administration, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

    Neither Obama, nor Clinton, nor the Democratic Party have been forthcoming on this troubling dalliance with a country that has never been friendly to the U.S., and which even today has nuclear weapons pointed in our direction. It's time that the Justice Department and Congress get to the bottom of this.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ies-to-russia/
    Same turd. Different wrapper.

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    Obama Administration, Hillary Clinton Covered Up Their Deep, Corrupt Ties To Russia

    Russian Scandal: As the old saying goes, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up. That's certainly true with the growing scandal over the Russians' extortion racket in the U.S., possible bribes to the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation, and the FBI's curious decision not to reveal the Russians' activities and ties to the Obama administration.

    This week, IBD discussed new reports from the Daily Caller, The Hill and Circa.com, of how the Russians, through their state nuclear company Rosatom, engaged in a campaign of bribery, extortion, money laundering and racketeering to gain control over U.S. nuclear assets in the private sector.

    Aided by an American informant, the FBI gathered a mountain of evidence that showed, for instance, that Russia had corrupted an American uranium trucking company through bribes.

    But that was the least of it. As The Hill reported, eyewitness accounts and do ents indicate that the Russian nuclear pirates spent millions of dollars to "benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation."

    At the time this was happening, Rosatom was seeking to acquire a stake in Canadian-based Uranium One, which then controlled close to 20% of U.S. uranium supplies.

    So why would Russian nuclear officials send money to the Clinton Foundation? As we've pointed out, Hillary Clinton was then secretary of state. In that position, she sat on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), the panel that decides whether strategic foreign investments such as Rosatom's will be allowed to proceed.

    Despite the FBI's evidence of bribery, extortion and racketeering, Hillary Clinton and then-Attorney General Eric Holder and other members of the Obama administration approved of Rosatom's takeover of Uranium One.

    One hand washes the other. The money flowed, and what remained of the investigation was hushed up. The investigation ran for two years, from 2009 to 2010, and then went quiet, right after CFIUS approved of Rosatom's purchase of Uranium One assets. In 2014, the Justice Department issued a few handslaps in what appeared to be major crimes, but that was all. By then, Hillary had already left office, and Holder was about to.

    The question, as always, is why?

    Well, certainly greed. The Clinton Foundation lined its pockets. By one estimate, it took in $145 million from investors linked to Uranium One.

    But there was also politics. President Obama, despite his rocky political beginnings in 2009, remained popular with average Americans. He wanted a legacy of success, and knew that Hillary Clinton could help ensure that.

    But Clinton, his presumed successor, had to appear clean if she had any hope of being elected president herself. So a blanket of silence was thrown over the whole criminal enterprise.

    Unfortunately, it goes even deeper than that.

    As we wrote in 2016, based on Peter Schweizer's well-do ented book, "Clinton Cash," Clinton and her associates were deeply involved with the Russians on many levels. That's what makes her recent protestations about being cheated out of the presidency by a Russian-Trump conspiracy so laughable.

    Hillary Clinton's campaign chief, John Podesta, served on the board of a small Russian energy company, Joule Unlimited, along with Russian officials. It took in $35 million from a Russian government fund, of course linked to Vladimir Putin. That money came just two months after Podesta joined the board.

    Podesta's own Center for American Progress took in $5.25 million from the Sea Change Foundation from 2009 to 2013. What was the Sea Change Foundation? A somewhat questionable group that received a chunk of cash from a Bermuda-based group called Klein Ltd., which appears to have ties to the Russians.

    Didn't know that? Neither the Democrats nor media bothered to tell you.

    Nor did Podesta. He was required by law to inform the government of that relationship, but it slipped his mind.

    But even more troubling is the fact that Hillary Clinton recruited U.S. high-tech biggies such as Google, Cisco and Intel to help Russia set up a high-tech hub under the questionable au es of the Russian Skoldovo foundation.

    That group seems to have been set up by Putin-crony and Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg explicitly for the purpose of sending advanced U.S. technology to Skoldovo, a kind of Russian Silicon Valley that Putin wanted built.

    But its aims weren't altruistic.

    Of the 28 U.S., European and Russian firms that took part in that effort, 17 were donors to the Clinton Foundation.

    FBI Assistant Special Agent Lucia Ziobro in 2014 sent a letter to those private U.S. companies taking part, which stated: "The FBI believes the true motives of the Russian partners, who are often funded by the government, is to gain access to classified, sensitive, and emerging technology from companies."

    If Hillary Clinton's State Department ever objected to this arrangement, we're unaware of it.

    There's of course much more. We've written on it extensively, following the lead of many diligent news organizations that have worked hard to uncover the details. But, curiously, the mainstream media remain mum, or report only perfunctorily on the details.

    The fact is, as we've said repeatedly, there is a Russian scandal of epic proportions, one involving bribery, racketeering, money laundering, extortion and control of the nation's nuclear assets.

    But, no, it doesn't involve Donald Trump. It involves the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton and President Obama, under whose administration the Russians felt emboldened to openly give money to government officials and their allies to gain favors and control over a vital national security resource.

    Given all this, it's time to end the farcical investigation currently being conducted by Robert Mueller. A new investigation should be started of the very probable violations of the law committed by the Obama administration, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

    Neither Obama, nor Clinton, nor the Democratic Party have been forthcoming on this troubling dalliance with a country that has never been friendly to the U.S., and which even today has nuclear weapons pointed in our direction. It's time that the Justice Department and Congress get to the bottom of this.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ies-to-russia/
    but but but Obama did it too!

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    "Russia-related money"


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    but but but Obama did it too!

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    Sen. Richard Burr, the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, told CNN that the panel has interviewed some of the Russians who were at that meeting, which Trump Jr. attended after being promised dirt on the Clinton campaign and being informed that the Russian government wanted his father to win the presidency. Paul Manafort, who was then the Trump campaign chairman, along with the President's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, also attended the meeting.
    The intelligence committee has previously met with both Kushner and Manafort, but has not yet brought in Trump Jr. Burr said the committee is "sequencing" its interviews to speak with everyone else "involved in the meeting before we know exactly what we want from Don Jr."

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    Sen. Richard Burr, the chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, told CNN that the panel has interviewed some of the Russians who were at that meeting, which Trump Jr. attended after being promised dirt on the Clinton campaign and being informed that the Russian government wanted his father to win the presidency. Paul Manafort, who was then the Trump campaign chairman, along with the President's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, also attended the meeting.
    The intelligence committee has previously met with both Kushner and Manafort, but has not yet brought in Trump Jr. Burr said the committee is "sequencing" its interviews to speak with everyone else "involved in the meeting before we know exactly what we want from Don Jr."

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    RUSSIAN URANIUM INVESTIGATION: BILL CLINTON MET PUTIN AFTER ASKING TO MEET TOP NUCLEAR INDUSTRY OFFICIAL, EMAILS SHOW

    http://www.newsweek.com/clinton-russ...um-deal-689321

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    Priebus cannot wait to testify against Trump. Lord.

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