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    Parker is too inconsistent to start... He had his time...

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    Parker is too inconsistent to start... He had his time...
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    Yeah, the best people can hope for is that he takes Anderson's or Lauvergne's spot in the rotation.

    Parker, Mills
    Green, Murray
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    I would like that very much.
    Yep, murray should not be the main ball handler on the court.

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    Yep, murray should not be the main ball handler on the court.
    and when did Mills become Kyrie Irving with the handles?

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    and when did Mills become Kyrie Irving with the handles?
    Lol kyrie irving is more like murray. Dumbest star in the league. Murray is a sg

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    Lol kyrie irving is more like murray. Dumbest star in the league. Murray is a sg
    And it continues.. just won't stop
    Crow feast incoming.

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    And it continues.. just won't stop
    Crow feast incoming.
    Go ahead and eloborate... or just use vague generalizations and emojis. Really great

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    Go ahead and eloborate... or just use vague generalizations and emojis. Really great
    I already explained my take on this to you some time ago. So it's not vague. My point is somewhere in the forums already. And I'll use what I want. I'm capable of talking basketball but it will be wasted on you because I see it will take too much effort to get you to even change your view.

    But this is a new season. You seem to not understand what it takes to improve which is PLAYING TIME. Before even talking about negative things you've saw from him in the past, give him a timeframe to see if his offseason work has paid off before judging him. He's off to a good start. And stop calling players dumb. You don't know them. It doesn't make you sound any smarter.

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    I already explained my take on this to you some time ago. So it's not vague. My point is somewhere in the forums already. And I'll use what I want. I'm capable of talking basketball but it will be wasted on you because I see it will take too much effort to get you to even change your view.

    But this is a new season. You seem to not understand what it takes to improve which is PLAYING TIME. Before even talking about negative things you've saw from him in the past, give him a timeframe to see if his offseason work has paid off before judging him. He's off to a good start. And stop calling players dumb. You don't know them. It doesn't make you sound any smarter.
    Murray is dumb. If you havent seen that by now, well, there isnt much from your first paragraph to hang your hat on. No one said he wouldnt get better, no one said increased pt doesnt make you better. Its my standing theory that you can take any of the buried bench guys and if given time they can improve to nba caliber players.


    The facts remain, murray is dumb, he struggles with fundamental plays, he isnt a solid pg. His skill is scoring iso and in transition, thats about it at this point in time.

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    Murray is dumb. If you havent seen that by now, well, there isnt much from your first paragraph to hang your hat on. No one said he wouldnt get better, no one said increased pt doesnt make you better. Its my standing theory that you can take any of the buried bench guys and if given time they can improve to nba caliber players.


    The facts remain, murray is dumb, he struggles with fundamental plays, he isnt a solid pg. His skill is scoring iso and in transition, thats about it at this point in time.
    "By now"? Oh so after a 1 game sample size? Because like I said.. he gets a clean slate because this is the start of a season where NOBODY knows how his offseason work will affect his game. I'm going to watch him try his stuff and get comfortable first. Kawhi said it himself in an interview about his own improvement after an offseason "you can't be afraid to try it(new skills) in the games". Murray will make mistakes but just watch him learn and grow.

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    "By now"? Oh so after a 1 game sample size? Because like I said.. he gets a clean slate because this is the start of a season where NOBODY knows how his offseason work will affect his game. I'm going to watch him try his stuff and get comfortable first. Kawhi said it himself in an interview about his own improvement after an offseason "you can't be afraid to try it(new skills) in the games". Murray will make mistakes but just watch him learn and grow.
    No not by now, by college, and his past year in the nba until now. Its not like he was a brand new pg this year. Hes been allowed to have no game sense because he played in trash leagues that promoted scoring as the idea behind a great player. Watch him move without the ball. Hes dumb. Hes lma of the perimeter that rebounds better. And i forgot to add rebounding as one of his skills in previous posts.

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    Fan since 2013 listen to him
    This is my second account... I been on here waaaaaay longer bro... Since Kori days... Show some respect

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    Ppl seem to think Tony was this amazing PG when he was younger... He couldn't shoot, disappeared in playoff series, and was so bad in the 03 finals that he had to be replaced with speedy Claxton... But we stuck with him through his flaws and allowed him the chance to grow... Now we have a PG that has more raw talent and we don't want to give him the chance to grow because he isn't a star as yet... We rather lose in the playoffs for sure with an old Parker, while stunting Murray's growth

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    Ppl seem to think Tony was this amazing PG when he was younger... He couldn't shoot, disappeared in playoff series, and was so bad in the 03 finals that he had to be replaced with speedy Claxton... But we stuck with him through his flaws and allowed him the chance to grow... Now we have a PG that has more raw talent and we don't want to give him the chance to grow because he isn't a star as yet... We rather lose in the playoffs for sure with an old Parker, while stunting Murray's growth
    What a freaking idiot...I guess you forgot Parker getting a Finals MVP in 2007.

    Spurs fans are the absolute worst. I'm embarrassed to say I live here.

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    This is my second account... I been on here waaaaaay longer bro... Since Kori days... Show some respect
    Lol prove your point by how many accounts you post from? Tony at 19 in the playoffs was better than murray last year. Fact. If tony had murrays height and length at 19 he would have been an all star every year. Murray has potential, like any player. But hes dumb and has 0 bbiq. Will he grow out of it with pt yep. But comparing him to parker is just stupid. The kid has no handles or fundamental understanding of the game. Its straight up playground basketball. He will gey better because his type is exactly what is filtering through now, low class players who cant defend... ie anyone can score. Fans would rather social media the highlight than win the game.

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    Lol prove your point by how many accounts you post from? Tony at 19 in the playoffs was better than murray last year. Fact. If tony had murrays height and length at 19 he would have been an all star every year. Murray has potential, like any player. But hes dumb and has 0 bbiq. Will he grow out of it with pt yep. But comparing him to parker is just stupid. The kid has no handles or fundamental understanding of the game. Its straight up playground basketball. He will gey better because his type is exactly what is filtering through now, low class players who cant defend... ie anyone can score. Fans would rather social media the highlight than win the game.
    Dude... Parker started the entire season and went through his growth... Murray barely played, and didn't know if he would... How could u compare the two? The front office and pop doesn't always get it right when it comes to evaluating players... We let a lot of good players go in the past, and we are overlooking how great Murray can be... Silly to compare the two when it comes to their first playoff appearance... Lol... Plus saying IF Tony had Murray's body is a dumb argument to make... If Tony had LeBron's body he would be even better too... If dejuan Blair had Blake griffins body, he would have been good... The physical gifts are a huge part of what makes a player good.. Duncan wouldn't be as good if he was 6'2

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    Dude... Parker started the entire season and went through his growth... Murray barely played, and didn't know if he would... How could u compare the two? The front office and pop doesn't always get it right when it comes to evaluating players... We let a lot of good players go in the past, and we are overlooking how great Murray can be... Silly to compare the two when it comes to their first playoff appearance... Lol... Plus saying IF Tony had Murray's body is a dumb argument to make... If Tony had LeBron's body he would be even better too... If dejuan Blair had Blake griffins body, he would have been good... The physical gifts are a huge part of what makes a player good.. Duncan wouldn't be as good if he was 6'2
    Right, parker was ready to contribute right away. He was a fundamentally sound pg. Murray is not. Murray was a 1st dlrd pick who looked like dog in the playoffs. Parker was still a competent player at least in his first playoffs being still a teenager. Completely fine to compare the two.... and yes, the point is murray has the genetic tools to be successful, however his skill level is sub par.. i think we agree on the last part, yes its easier to be recruited as height increases, and in this case you should defer that tony being smaller and younger was better than murray coming in, and hes still better than murray based on last year parker and this year murray

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    Right, parker was ready to contribute right away. He was a fundamentally sound pg. Murray is not. Murray was a 1st dlrd pick who looked like dog in the playoffs. Parker was still a competent player at least in his first playoffs being still a teenager. Completely fine to compare the two.... and yes, the point is murray has the genetic tools to be successful, however his skill level is sub par.. i think we agree on the last part, yes its easier to be recruited as height increases, and in this case you should defer that tony being smaller and younger was better than murray coming in, and hes still better than murray based on last year parker and this year murray
    You're dumb.

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    Comparing Murray to Parker does Murray no favors. He's not close to what Parker was almost immediately. , after 2003 Finals we backed off a push to get Jason Kidd because it was clear we had our point guard already.

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    Awwww new fan feelings hurt? Sorry kids

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    Awwww new fan feelings hurt? Sorry kids
    Dumb reply. You really are dumb.

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    Dumb reply. You really are dumb.
    Awwwww sorry youre mad

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    Lol kyrie irving is more like murray. Dumbest star in the league. Murray is a sg
    You would be neutralizing all of Murray's strenghts, playing him at SG.

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    Comparing Murray to Parker does Murray no favors. He's not close to what Parker was almost immediately. , after 2003 Finals we backed off a push to get Jason Kidd because it was clear we had our point guard already.
    That's some revisionist history, tbh. If Pop could have got Kidd we would have got him, tbh. Having Tony didn't make a difference. Specially not after 2003, where Tony came up small when it mattered most.

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    That's some revisionist history, tbh. If Pop could have got Kidd we would have got him, tbh. Having Tony didn't make a difference. Specially not after 2003, where Tony came up small when it mattered most.
    I thought Kidd was the one who said no because of his wife or something.

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