Murray...take the keys

[Vic Petro]

I thought Kidd was the one who said no because of his wife or something.

This is accurate. Joumana was going to be famous and needed a major market.

[Slippy]

Hope the spurs keep DJ as starter once Tony gets back.

Showing alot of composure so far. The potential upside this kid offers on defense & as a scorer is just too much to ignore.

[Mr. Body]

That's some revisionist history, tbh. If Pop could have got Kidd we would have got him, tbh. Having Tony didn't make a difference. Specially not after 2003, where Tony came up small when it mattered most.

This is absolutely false.

[eric365]

Murray's going to the bench when TP comes back. Sorry folks; that's how it is.

I think Parker would agree to go the bench. he would have better stats versus crappy bench and it would help the team

Unfortunately the starting unit doesnt get into a good rythm with Mills. Especially the bigs
If Murray proves himself in the starting unit i think pop will put parker in the bench
Thenext issue will be to still give 20 min to Mills and 20 min to Parker and not be destroyed defensively by this extra small lineup

[Rob123]

Comparing Murray to Parker does Murray no favors. He's not close to what Parker was almost immediately. , after 2003 Finals we backed off a push to get Jason Kidd because it was clear we had our point guard already.

WTF are you talking about? Jason Kidd said no to the Spurs we still wanted him badly at that point.

[BackHome]

Man Parker played professional ball his whole life while Murray just played one year of college. As far as Murray he sucked when he first got her but had some good games at end of season. He sucked in Pre Season but has played much better once this season started. He is a rebounding machine and is playing more controlled and not looking for his shot first. If he can continue to focus on defense the rebounding and steals should have him starting over Mills and Parker.

As far as Parker if he can come back healthy I like him playing with second group and I don’t think he would be upset with that. The biggest disappointment has been mills and I am a big fan of his. I am starting to see what some poster have expressed in that Mills can only be effective with Manu. Either way I really like what I have seen from Murray I like that he plays hard and seems to have bought into Pop play defense or don’t play. Yeah he will have his ups and downs but that comes with being young.

[Chinook]

This is absolutely false.

No. They went after Kidd in 2003, with the goal of playing Tony and Jason together as the starting back court. Kidd backed off, not the Spurs.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/s...arker-in-2003/

[Mr. Body]

No. They went after Kidd in 2003, with the goal of playing Tony and Jason together as the starting back court. Kidd backed off, not the Spurs.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/s...arker-in-2003/

Yes, because Kidd knew Parker was their point guard. The rest is revisionist. The team was debating either way but had no problem with Kidd moving away. It was the right choice and everyone on every side knew it.

Back to the topic: comparing Murray at this point to Parker is ridiculous. Parker was clearly the team's future point guard and Murray, at this point, is not.

[200 miles]

Yes, because Kidd knew Parker was their point guard. The rest is revisionist. The team was debating either way but had no problem with Kidd moving away. It was the right choice and everyone on every side knew it.

Back to the topic: comparing Murray at this point to Parker is ridiculous. Parker was clearly the team's future point guard and Murray, at this point, is not.

But he will be.

[bic50]

Yes, because Kidd knew Parker was their point guard. The rest is revisionist. The team was debating either way but had no problem with Kidd moving away. It was the right choice and everyone on every side knew it.

Back to the topic: comparing Murray at this point to Parker is ridiculous. Parker was clearly the team's future point guard and Murray, at this point, is not.

Murray is the future

[UZER]

With Murray's ability to rebound and speed, he needs to grab rebounds and go. Sure there are moments to slow it down, but he's got a little Russ in him and should take advantage of the skill.

Unlike Russ, it shouldn't get stupidly out of hand.

[Spurtacular]

I think Parker would agree to go the bench. he would have better stats versus crappy bench and it would help the team

Unfortunately the starting unit doesnt get into a good rythm with Mills. Especially the bigs
If Murray proves himself in the starting unit i think pop will put parker in the bench
Thenext issue will be to still give 20 min to Mills and 20 min to Parker and not be destroyed defensively by this extra small lineup

Tony Parker wouldn't agree to going to the bench; and Pop wouldn't likely even entertain the notion. Eventually, when TP is a big enough liability, they might come to that bridge.

[DAF86]

This is absolutely false.

Compelling argument for someone that had the entire forum contradicting his claim, tbh.

[cutewizard]

Yeah, the best people can hope for is that he takes Anderson's or Lauvergne's spot in the rotation.

Parker, Mills
Green, Murray
Leonard, Ginobili
Anderson, Gay
Aldridge, Gasol

I would like that very much.

Plus Bertans and Forbes waiting

[cutewizard]

Ppl seem to think Tony was this amazing PG when he was younger... He couldn't shoot, disappeared in playoff series, and was so bad in the 03 finals that he had to be replaced with speedy Claxton... But we stuck with him through his flaws and allowed him the chance to grow... Now we have a PG that has more raw talent and we don't want to give him the chance to grow because he isn't a star as yet... We rather lose in the playoffs for sure with an old Parker, while stunting Murray's growth

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hope Murray reaches his potential

[TheGreatYacht]

We need to talk about his defense. Led the league in DBPM before tonight

Held Lowry to 3-11 from the field

[DAF86]

We need to talk about his defense. Led the league in DBPM before tonight

Held Lowry to 3-11 from the field tonight.

Having a PG with a 7 foot wingspan is huuuuge. No weak links outthere. When Patty got in, Raptors would immediately punish him on switches and left him all alone in an island with Derozan.

That's also why I get cancer everytime I hear folks talking about Dejounte playing at SG. Most of his strengths would banish outiside the PG position.

[NASpurs]

Of course Parker's ahead of schedule. He probably feels like he's being usurped.

[tholdren]

You would be neutralizing all of Murray's strenghts, playing him at SG.

I dont think so. Murray is a transition player. Would not want ball in his hands to make a smart play when needed or control clock while hanging to a small lead. Putting up some impressive numbers so far.

[TheGreatYacht]

Having a PG with a 7 foot wingspan is huuuuge. No weak links outthere. When Patty got in, Raptors would immediately punish him on switches and left him all alone in an island with Derozan.

That's also why I get cancer everytime I hear folks talking about Dejounte playing at SG. Most of his strengths would banish outiside the PG position.

Great post.

I'd rather see Parker-Mills lineups instead. They were great in the playoffs.

[Mr. Body]

Compelling argument for someone that had the entire forum contradicting his claim, tbh.

Compelling rebuttal.

[DAF86]

I dont think so. Murray is a transition player. Would not want ball in his hands to make a smart play when needed or control clock while hanging to a small lead. Putting up some impressive numbers so far.

Having a PG with a 7 foot wingspan is huuuuge. No weak links outthere. When Patty got in, Raptors would immediately punish him on switches and left him all alone in an island with Derozan.

That's also why I get cancer everytime I hear folks talking about Dejounte playing at SG. Most of his strengths would banish outiside the PG position.

[DAF86]

Compelling rebuttal.

I'm not the one that made a statement that got contradicted by the rest of the forum, tbh.

[tholdren]

What would "banish"?

[Mr. Body]

I'm not the one that made a statement that got contradicted by the rest of the forum, tbh.

I don't even know where that thread is anymore. Whatever. I was living in New York at the time and know what was being discussed in the local media. Everyone knew Parker was the Spurs PG of the future. Maybe the team was still considering getting Kidd at some point but it was clear he would be redundant.

This forum loves to bring up the Speedy Claxton game but it was just one game. TP was clearly going to be a star. , only four years later he won the Finals MVP and nobody could stop him.