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    Remember tony was given the reigns after Pop decided to take a leap of faith after 4 pr 5 games...ppl have been talking about Murray not being able to shoot, thus shouldn't start...and how amazing tony was as a rookie...he was good, but i think ppl are mixing up how good he was after his rookie season with his actual rookie season

    9.2 ppg... 41%fg... 67%ft...1.4 stl... 4.3 Ast... 2to

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    Murray would easily best that if given the chance, tbh.

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    Murray would easily best that if given the chance, tbh.
    I agree

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    Porker was garbage until the Spurs' first dynasty ended in 2007 tbh. I'll never forget how dreadful he was against LAL in 2004 tbh....

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    Murray would easily best that if given the chance, tbh.
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    Porker was garbage until the Spurs' first dynasty ended in 2007 tbh. I'll never forget how dreadful he was against LAL in 2004 tbh....
    He was on fire the first 2 games, then completely disappeared the last 4

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    Porker was garbage until the Spurs' first dynasty ended in 2007 tbh. I'll never forget how dreadful he was against LAL in 2004 tbh....
    Still doesnt beat 8 turnovers in a
    Championship clincher in miami

    Even Timmy sat down thinking he won a ship even got congratulated by Blair on
    The bench and Turdnobili became Lebrons MVP

    Smh

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    Still doesnt beat 8 turnovers in a
    Championship clincher in miami

    Even Timmy sat down thinking he won a ship even got congratulated by Blair on
    The bench and Turdnobili became Lebrons MVP

    Missing 30 shots in the last 2 games.
    Smh

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    Murray is in his second year... could he have done that last year? It’s qustionable. Parker had no mid range and had a hard time finishing at the rim in his first year, but was more mature and use to professional basketball.

    Murray was maybe more skilled in his first year, but not his mental game wasn’t quite as mature.

    Rookie Parker over rookie Murray imho

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    He was on fire the first 2 games, then completely disappeared the last 4
    After game 2 Phil Jackson made adjustments to keep him out of the paint and we had no effective counterpunch in our arsenal.

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    After game 2 Phil Jackson made adjustments to keep him out of the paint and we had no effective counterpunch in our arsenal.
    He also became passive... Trust me... I vividly remember that series... They were more physical with him... And he got passive

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    He also became passive... Trust me... I vividly remember that series... They were more physical with him... And he got passive
    Dis alt doe

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    Murray is in his second year... could he have done that last year? It’s qustionable. Parker had no mid range and had a hard time finishing at the rim in his first year, but was more mature and use to professional basketball.

    Murray was maybe more skilled in his first year, but not his mental game wasn’t quite as mature.

    Rookie Parker over rookie Murray imho
    Parker was allowed to grow into his starter role... Murray didn't have that benefit, so it's possible he would have not only had a better statistical year, but his leadership qualities may have surpassed rookie Tony... I dont see a rookie Tony waving away pop... For goodness sakes pop yelled at him the other day to give kawhi the ball

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    Parker was allowed to grow into his starter role... Murray didn't have that benefit, so it's possible he would have not only had a better statistical year, but his leadership qualities may have surpassed rookie Tony... I dont see a rookie Tony waving away pop... For goodness sakes pop yelled at him the other day to give kawhi the ball
    Yeah just trade murray for curry and kd

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    Yeah just trade murray for curry and kd
    Good trade, tbh...

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    Parker was allowed to grow into his starter role... Murray didn't have that benefit, so it's possible he would have not only had a better statistical year, but his leadership qualities may have surpassed rookie Tony... I dont see a rookie Tony waving away pop... For goodness sakes pop yelled at him the other day to give kawhi the ball

    Waving Pop was stupid and disrespectful. I don’t care how you spin it. Murray maybe has a higher false sense of confidence is all that means.... and trust me, I’ve never been a huge Parker fan, but He had played professionally since he was 16 and he had to help lead a team with Duncan, Robinson, and a much more high strung Pop.

    I actually like Murray more than Parker at this stage, and I think he COULD be better. Yes Parker was exposed by Phil, but you can bet your ass he would expose Murray just the same

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    Waving Pop was stupid and disrespectful. I don’t care how you spin it. Murray maybe has a higher false sense of confidence is all that means.... and trust me, I’ve never been a huge Parker fan, but He had played professionally since he was 16 and he had to help lead a team with Duncan, Robinson, and a much more high strung Pop.

    I actually like Murray more than Parker at this stage, and I think he COULD be better. Yes Parker was exposed by Phil, but you can bet your ass he would expose Murray just the same
    Difference is I don't see Murray backing down and getting passive in his third full season because ppl get physical with him...

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    Murray as a rookie was no where near as good as Parker. That said, they both had horrible jump shots their rookie year. It took Parker like 4-5 years to get an acceptable jump shot. No one is saying Parker was HOF his first 3 years.

    Maybe Murray gets as good as Parker. Hopefully. But he’s not as talented or physically gifted as Parker. Parker’s speed was way more effective than Marrays length.

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    Difference is I don't see Murray backing down and getting passive in his third full season because ppl get physical with him...
    I agree, but third year is different from rookie year, no?

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    He also became passive... Trust me... I vividly remember that series... They were more physical with him... And he got passive
    That and didn't Turkoglu disappear

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    I agree, but third year is different from rookie year, no?
    I was saying that in reference to u saying they would have don't Murray the same... So im not talking about rookie Murray... Im taking about Murray that had a couple years under his belt like Tony did by time he faced them in 04

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    Murray as a rookie was no where near as good as Parker. That said, they both had horrible jump shots their rookie year. It took Parker like 4-5 years to get an acceptable jump shot. No one is saying Parker was HOF his first 3 years.

    Maybe Murray gets as good as Parker. Hopefully. But he’s not as talented or physically gifted as Parker. Parker’s speed was way more effective than Marrays length.
    How can you possibly assure any of that when we never got to see rookie Murray play a full season? We just saw glimpses of him, and those glimpses were pretty damn good.

    In terms of the physical tools, I don't know how can anybody argue in favour of Tony, tbh. Yeah, Tony was probably the fastet player in the NBA back then, but DJ is pretty damn fast too, and he also has quickness, agility, size and hops. Murray is a much better physical specimen than Tony was, tbh.

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    got OP continues to be the worst poster in the forum

    Let's compare their sop re seasons when the year ends.

    Parker 2002-2003 (20 years old)
    15.5ppg, 2.6rpg, 5.3apg, 46.4FG%, 33.7 3P%

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    Since we're bringing up rookie seasons for no reason

    Manure Ginobili 2002-2003 (25 years old!!!)
    7.6ppg, 2.3rpg, 2.0apg, 1.4TO, 43.8FG%, 34.5 3P%

    Can't even sniff a 19yr old rookie Parker's jockstrap

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    He was on fire the first 2 games, then completely disappeared the last 4
    After game 2 Phil Jackson made adjustments to keep him out of the paint and we had no effective counterpunch in our arsenal.
    Also Fronting Shaq worked really well those first two games.
    Horry, Duncan, Manu, they all in contributed to that 04 choke show. Wasn't just parker's fault. Pop himself to blame mostly, IMO.

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