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    This alone tells me Dejounte is gonna be alright.

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    The league allows more traveling today than it did back then. I feel half of the time Curry and Kyrie are allowed to palm the ball and get away with it. Parker's ball handling on the other hand was a hundred percent legit. If Parker came out today it would be entertaining to see what he could do ball handling wise since traveling is hardly called on PG's.
    There is not a game that is played without 100 non called traveling. It happens every play

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    This was extremely predictable.

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    shooting does matter for PGs. If you can't shoot for as a PG, you're not going to be that good. Right now, even Russell Westbrook is like Larry Bird compared to Deounte when it comes to shooting the ball.
    Yeah, Antetokounmpo and Simmons aren't comparables. They may be PG's on offense, but the former is a combo forward defensively (with the physical tools of a C) and the latter is a PF defensively. They're too big and strong for most perimeter players and too quick for most bigs.

    It's not the fact that Murray is a sub par shooter that's concerning, it's the fact that he's a non one altogether. He tries to turn damn near every shot into a floater. Instead of working relentlessly on it, Spurs' antiquated approach seems to be focus on other things and figure that out later, when it's the most important attribute, especially given his aforementioned starting point.

    They need to stop this bizarre aversion to the 3 and get with the times. This team is actually loaded with depth of shooting, it's just not a point of emphasis and they don't play a rotation that lends itself to it.

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    This was extremely predictable.
    Taveling or murray not being a big game player?

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    Taveling or murray not being a big game player?
    It wasn't a BIG game.

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    It wasn't a BIG game.
    How about the playoff game where he couldnt dribble to halfcourt?

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    How about the playoff game where he couldnt dribble to halfcourt?
    IF you admit Murray was bad, Patty had to be GREAT huh?

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    IF you admit Murray was bad, Patty had to be GREAT huh?
    A pg who is in the *cough* most talented league in the world who cant dribble to half court... has nothing to do w patty. Just murray. A pg who has so limited fundamentals he cant initiate the offense... wtf

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    How about the playoff game where he couldnt dribble to halfcourt?
    lmao bring up last year ,wtf???

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    lmao bring up last year ,wtf???
    I thought his ty last game was too soon

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    I thought his ty last game was too soon
    nah the sooner, the better.

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    Dejounte needs to be quicker moving with the ball in his hands. Can that be fixed?

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    He's been atrocious since that first few game stretch. Hope he didn't let it get to his head.

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    He's been atrocious since that first few game stretch. Hope he didn't let it get to his head.
    He just has a good game or two out of every ten. He just started out that way this season and is returning to the mean.

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    Oh goddamn this is fun!!!

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    pgs doin what streetballin pgs do.

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    His struggling has a Pop feel to it.

    Guy starts off playing well doing what he does. Pop gets in his ear because it's not necessarily how he "wants" him to play. Player starts struggling.

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    pgs doin what streetballin pgs do.

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    Murray needs to develop a jump shot.

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    So, me talking about his jump shot being a big problem since last season ended, anyone ing agree with me now?

    Some of you all need to learn how to shoot the ball before you go spouting off starting these type of threads. Just because you've got a good shooting coach, doesn't mean a shooter can become a good one. You have to have some sort of feel for shooting the ball, or at least some proclivity towards making shots (even if you have a bad form), otherwise, this could be a long process teaching this kid how to shoot from from the beginning. It looks like this is going to be a long process for Murray. He can still work his ass off and maybe get there, but right now, he looks like he's a long way off.

    I really don't know where he's at, because all I've seen is mostly horrendous floaters he tries from weird spots on the floor. He might not be as bad as I'm thinking, but I just having seen much of a decent sample size at all of him taking jump shots.

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    So, me talking about his jump shot being a big problem since last season ended, anyone ing agree with me now?

    Some of you all need to learn how to shoot the ball before you go spouting off starting these type of threads. Just because you've got a good shooting coach, doesn't mean a shooter can become a good one. You have to have some sort of feel for shooting the ball, or at least some proclivity towards making shots (even if you have a bad form), otherwise, this could be a long process teaching this kid how to shoot from from the beginning. It looks like this is going to be a long process for Murray. He can still work his ass off and maybe get there, but right now, he looks like he's a long way off.

    I really don't know where he's at, because all I've seen is mostly horrendous floaters he tries from weird spots on the floor. He might not be as bad as I'm thinking, but I just having seen much of a decent sample size at all of him taking jump shots.
    There was someone who I remember making the point that he doesn't have good eye for the basket when it comes to jump-shooting. It might have been you.
    There was also a poster who had attended a game and saw him shoot bricks all shootaround, and mentioned how concerning it was that he couldn't shoot at all (at the time, he wasn't getting playing time, so we didn't know that much about him and he had just a couple of games in which he shot the ball well, so his observation was interesting enough that I remember it).

    Anyways, you have a point. He will not be starting level PG, not really until he can make some jumpshots. He doesn't have to be an ace shooter, but at least he has to attempt and make some jumpshots in game situations now and then.

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    Not worried about DJ, tbh...every young player has growing pains...its not as if young parker never had a bad stretch (for goodness sakes some of his bad stretches came in the playoffs) and its not as if we havent lost games vs trash teams in the past with our big 3...murray will sort himself out...he just needs to focus on defense...and on offense, take it into the body of the defenderto shield them off...

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    Nothing to see here. He's playing his way into a 50-mil contract.

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    An observation. I'd have Deounte stop looking for offensive boards and camping the paint and focusing on getting back in transition. His first few games were an anomaly. He is a good rebounder for a guard, but searching for boards at the expense of transition defense is doing a disservice to the Spurs. I hope Pop changes that scheme...

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