OT: Baseball is dying...

[unleashbaynes]

FKLA and the TwinkTrot crew sadly have a very limited view of athleticism and only consider sports where there's constant motion (whether the ball being in constant motion [FKLA would probably consider volleyball an athletic sport, but it burns as much calories as playing baseball and centered around basically one athletic trait: jumping. But it's "fast paced" or something] or the players. I'll say this. SS, 2B, and outfielders are under a more overall athletic demand than any basketball player, PG or otherwise.

Very rarely, if ever, are you dead on full sprinting for more than 90 feet in basketball, even when getting back to defend fastbreaks (the players below the rim are already beat and just trot, it's usually players above the 3 point getting back in a sprint, and it's more of a controlled sprint than anything). Check out Lebron James block on Iggy.



He went into a sprint around the half-court line (48 feet) and leaped a good 6 feet forward and about 35" high. Impressive.

Billy Hamilton dead sprinting for 123 feet reaching 22mph and laying out for a diving catch (an equally impressive "jumping feat" as what Lebron did).

https://www.mlb.com/video/roberts-on...e/c-1866047283

Pure straight up vertical?



And addition to that, outfielders often have 90-105mph throwing arms. Here's Kevin Kiermaier nearly nailing the speedy Mookie Betts with a 100mph throw from 344 feet away in the air and on target. Nothing in basketball can with that (athletically).

https://www.mlb.com/indians/video/st...?tid=240568594

Nothing in basketball demands the full body athletic "explosion," if you will, of hitting or pitching. Not jump shooting, first step into a dribble-drive, nor dunking. It would do the TwinkTrot well to investigate the biomechanics of certain athletic feats instead of just rating athletic feats on how pretty they look.

Yeah i forgot, if it doesn't involve running 12 miles and being a skinny bag of bones, it must not require any athleticism, my bad

[midnightpulp]

Yeah i forgot, if it doesn't involve running 12 miles and being a skinny bag of bones, it must not require any athleticism, my bad

I'm not trying to talk down basketball, but I played both sports and most of the positions in baseball (OF and infield aside from 1B) require a better all around athlete than any one position in basketball. You need upper tier first step acceleration, lateral quickness, body control, and a vertical leap to play those positions effectively, same as any perimeter player in basketball. But nothing in basketball challenges throwing power and core rotational power like throwing and hitting. Manu's "baseball" passes are nice from 20-30 feet and whatnot, but they're really nothing compared to Arenado making an off-balance throw from foul territory 150 feet out or Cepedes doing this:



"But stamina." There's nothing particularly above and beyond about basketball's endurance demands. It's why they can play the game every other day, and could play it everyday (wouldn't be a good idea, because taller athletes more prone to strain).

[LkrFan]

Not surprised, Tbh. Most of Eduardo's ( LkrFan) family is watching. So many dodger bandwagoners here with newly bought blue caps and flags

Same with the LA Kings, suddenly everybody was a damn hockey fan.

¡ ningún hijo! ¡ mi familia ama el fútbol!

[Mitch]

¡ ningún hijo! ¡ mi familia ama el fútbol!

Only football is NFL, cabron

[DMC]

Does it show a graph?

also, more action in a 0-0 soccer game than in any beisbol game

Sure, in the showers after the game.

[whitemamba]

Not even a baseball fan but this WS is pretty entertaining , I’m more into it because LA is in it , but the games have been really good. Hope the dodgers come back and take t to 7. This series deserves it , and baseball needs it.

[140]

Not even a baseball fan but this WS is pretty entertaining , I’m more into it because LA is in it , but the games have been really good. Hope the dodgers come back and take t to 7. This series deserves it , and baseball needs it.

It also needs a diet plan tbh

[Mitch]

It also needs a diet plan tbh

They can't be starving 3rd worlders kicking a ball around a field for hours with no scores

[baseline bum]

And they have a Houston hat in their holster too, just in case.

That's only the ones from Hoover tbh

[rastaspur]

Damn, you slurp apali 's nob on that barely matters.

If it's the same person then technically it's masturbation.

[The Gemini Method]

That's only the ones from Hoover tbh

I grew up with someone whose uncle was a Hoover Criminal. He always had an Astros' hat on. I didn't grow up around a ton of gangs in Long Beach other than the Insane Crips, TRG, and ABZ and the Longos, so I asked my friend what it meant (Or, if his uncle was a fan of the Houston Astros) and he said no, that's just his allegiance to the Hoover Criminals.

[Killakobe81]

I grew up with someone whose uncle was a Hoover Criminal. He always had an Astros' hat on. I didn't grow up around a ton of gangs in Long Beach other than the Insane Crips, TRG, and ABZ and the Longos, so I asked my friend what it meant (Or, if his uncle was a fan of the Houston Astros) and he said no, that's just his allegiance to the Hoover Criminals.

Hoover was notorious,i stayed in the valley yet hoover rolling 60s grapes crenshaw mafia etc still rang out

[The Gemini Method]

Hoover was notorious,i stayed in the valley yet hoover rolling 60s grapes crenshaw mafia etc still rang out

Yup. He was a straight killer actually. I believe he's in prison for life. But that's true because Eight Trey Gangster Crips were also known around me because a neighbor's family claimed that and they would let you know about it.

[baseline bum]

Yup. He was a straight killer actually. I believe he's in prison for life. But that's true because Eight Trey Gangster Crips were also known around me because a neighbor's family claimed that and they would let you know about it.

It's funny, San Antonio used to have a Crip set calling themselves ETG. But named after the East Terrace projects.

[The Gemini Method]

It's funny, San Antonio used to have a Crip set calling themselves ETG. But named after the East Terrace projects.

Yeah, I'm sure there are others who use the name. Eight-Trey Gangster Crips, gained notoriety from that book written about Monster Cody's life. Also, they're surrounded by rival gangs and are pretty violent. Some 4 major gangs surround them and I think the Hoovers and Rollin' 60's are their biggest enemies.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, I'm sure there are others who use the name. Eight-Trey Gangster Crips, gained notoriety from that book written about Monster Cody's life. Also, they're surrounded by rival gangs and are pretty violent. Some 4 major gangs surround them and I think the Hoovers and Rollin' 60's are their biggest enemies.

LOL ETG was probably the most notorious east side gang in San Antonio back in the 90s (east side was the black side of town, west and south side the Mexican).

[The Gemini Method]

LOL ETG was probably the most notorious east side gang in San Antonio back in the 90s (east side was the black side of town, west and south side the Mexican).

Dang. Did not know that, but interesting how cities and how groups emulate a sometimes nonsensical thing. However, the importation of gangster lifestyle sucks for communities. I know firsthand losing a few people I grew up with to that lifestyle or as victims. Terrible.

[midnightpulp]

Not even a baseball fan but this WS is pretty entertaining , I’m more into it because LA is in it , but the games have been really good. Hope the dodgers come back and take t to 7. This series deserves it , and baseball needs it.

Why?

[whitemamba]

Why?

The following statistics, according to Nielsen’s Year in Sports Media report, provide some context as to who exactly is watching baseball:

• 50% are 55 or older? Majority of the fans are going to be dead due to diabetes (DMC) or old age very soon. Younger generation doesnt find it as entertaining i guess, the NBA Average is 37.
  
• 26% are between the age 33 – 54
  
• 70% are male - I feel almost all girls unanimously hate baseball, and would choose an NBA game in a heartbeat to watch live.
  
• 83% are white - no surprise here.
  
  It just appears that the future is brighter for NBA over MLB, I mean during the summer league when Zo was playing the cavs i think, that game had higher ratings than the Red Sox playing i dont remember who in the post season.

[LkrFan]

Only football is NFL, cabron

[FkLA]

So what score can your unathletic fat mexican ass shoot in golf?

How many times can your unathlethic fat white ass make it up and down a court/field? Can't use a golf cart either.

[midnightpulp]

The following statistics, according to Nielsen’s Year in Sports Media report, provide some context as to who exactly is watching baseball:

• 50% are 55 or older? Majority of the fans are going to be dead due to diabetes (DMC) or old age very soon. Younger generation doesnt find it as entertaining i guess, the NBA Average is 37.
  
• 26% are between the age 33 – 54
  
• 70% are male - I feel almost all girls unanimously hate baseball, and would choose an NBA game in a heartbeat to watch live.
  
• 83% are white - no surprise here.
  
  It just appears that the future is brighter for NBA over MLB, I mean during the summer league when Zo was playing the cavs i think, that game had higher ratings than the Red Sox playing i dont remember who in the post season.

About the so-called "median age" problem. Read this (and here's a quote):

Example, the median age of World Series Game 7 last year was 50.5 which was lower than the 53.5 for game 6 but much higher than the 43.1 median age for game 5 of the NBA Finals in June.

So based only on the sentence above, which had more young adults 18-34? Game 7 of the World Series or Game 5 of the NBA finals?

Correct Answer: I don’t know and it’s not possible to tell from that data alone!

https://sportstvratings.com/median-a...s-useful/8478/

Furthermore, according to that same Nielsen research, the median age of the NFL viewer is 49. So what? The NFL is going to "die" 6 years after the MLB? Also a big factor worth noting is that Nielsen data is culled from ESPN and other such national broadcasts. People who watch baseball typically watch it on a local cable channel, and in those respective markets, a regular season MLB game will outdraw competing NBA playoff games. And here's how that coveted 18-29 demo polled about the respective sports:



http://www.businessinsider.com/major...ularity-2015-2

Also according to the Harris Poll, the industry standard, the MLB ranks higher than the NBA in popularity (15% to 5%):

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...-the-us-2016-3

Another faulty assumption is that tastes will remain static throughout life. When I was younger, I was more into basketball and football, and baseball was a distant 3rd, not because I found the sport boring, but because baseball doesn't generate the kind of conversation centered around superstars and drama after any one game. Baseball is a tougher sport to have "casual watercooler" conversation about. What's more of a hot topic? Mike Trout going 0-4 in some June game out of 162? Or Tom Brady throwing 3 INTs in a Monday Night Football game? Then when I really started to dissect baseball (sounds nerdy, I know), I found its design more intriguing and a nice alternative than the other big 2 or 3 sports. It's also not slow paced, as good ole' Chuck D said.

Some more positives indicating the health of baseball is that the MLB All Star game outdraws the NBA All Star game and the Homerun Derby outdraws the Dunk/3 point shooting contest.

[unleashbaynes]

How many times can your unathlethic fat white ass make it up and down a court/field? Can't use a golf cart either.

I could definitely make it up and down the court. I've rolled my ankle enough though to where i don't play the way i used to.

Now, tell me super duper athlete, what score would you shoot on the golf course?

[FkLA]

I could definitely make it up and down the court. I've rolled my ankle enough though to where i don't play the way i used to.

Now, tell me super duper athlete, what score would you shoot on the golf course?

What's your point? I said golf is an unathlethic game, not that it's easy. Being a professional gamer/billiards player /darts player is hard af too but that doesn't mean those guys are great athletes.

[DAF86]

I got in just to see the charts and it didn't disappoint.